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Life After Benitez: The Contenders

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With Rafa Benitez looking more and more likely to leave Liverpool this summer - he's 4/11 NOT to be in charge - who are the names in the frame to replace him? Jose, M'ON, Kenny...oh and Oswaldo De Oliviera...



JOSE MOURINHO (5/4)
Currently: Manager of Inter Milan but obviously, very vocally, unhappy in Italian football.


Pedigree: Won a fair bit but the most impressive are the Champions League with Porto, two Premier League titles with Chelsea, one Serie A with Inter Milan.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: Only three managers have won the Premier League in the last 15 years and only one of them is available. That surely makes Mourinho the best man for any Premier League manager's job, especially one where he gets to pit his wits directly against the other two, along with his arch-nemesis Carlo Ancelotti. His ego would certainly be attracted to the challenge of returning Liverpool to the top of the tree and becoming an instant hero to boot.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: Lack of money for both manager wages and player acquisitions, the suspicion that patience will bring either the Manchester United job and its almost guaranteed success or the Manchester City job with its massive challenge (and massive money), a probable absence from the Champions League and his oft-repeated admission that he wants to win La Liga to add to his Premier League and Serie A Titles.




MARTIN O'NEILL (9/2)
Currently: Manager of Aston Villa but only on a rolling contract.


Pedigree: Three SPL titles with Celtic and cup finals with Leicester and Aston Villa.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: An impressive record on a relatively smaller budget would appeal, as would his ability to recruit and improve young players like James Milner and Ashley Young. A lack of a long-term contract at Villa makes him cheaply available, and he would probably relish the opportunity to sit at the big table. If Liverpool were looking for the best available, upwardly-mobile manager currently in the Premier League, then they would look towards O'Neill. Tactically he would also be a good fit - a counter-attacking manager for a counter-attacking club.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: Little experience of dealing with big-name, big-ego footballers and there would be question marks about his ability to recruit foreign stars. He certainly lacks the pull of a Benitez or a Mourinho to La Liga or Serie A players, and has almost exclusively bought players from British football. Liverpool's foreign owners may not see O'Neill as quite sexy enough to attract investors.




KENNY DALGLISH (8/1)>BR>Currently: Academy Ambassador.


Pedrigree: Four titles with Liverpool and Blackburn - the last in 1995.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: He loves the club, he knows the club, he's already at the club. He might not be a long-term option but his passion could be seen as the short-term solution until the Reds get back into the Champions League. The fans are already on his side and would give him the time they might not afford to an outsider, while if anyone can get the best out of the Academy graduates, it's Dalglish.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: His last managerial success was in 1995 and the Premier League has changed an awful lot in 15 years. At 59, would he have the energy needed to manage a big top-flight club? Would he have the contacts to bring in players from other leagues? Would he want to risk ruining his standing amongst Liverpool fans? It would be a curious step backwards and one that would hardly smack of ambition from Liverpool.




LAURENT BLANC (10/1)
Currently: Manager of Bordeaux.


Pedrigree: The French title in only his second season in management.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: He's young, presumably ambitious and is used to working within a budget at Bordeaux. His standing in world football would give Liverpool access to some of France's best young players and it would certainly be considered a coup to recruit a man some are earmarking for the United job.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: With less than three years of managerial experience, is he ready to manage one of the biggest clubs in world football and deal with all the hoop-la that surrounds it? He may choose - or Liverpool may choose - to give him longer to find his feet in French football, by which time United could decide to take a gamble on a man who is clearly respected at Old Trafford.




OSWALDO DE OLIVIERA (12/1)
Currently: Manager of Japanese side Kashimi Antlers.


Pedrigree: One Brazilian title and three successive J-League trophies.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: We're guessing he would be relatively cheap - jumping at the chance to manage in Europe for the first time in his career. We won't pretend we know anything about his personality or tactics, but we're assuming he can't be an absolute chump if he's won three J-League titles.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: A lack of standing in European football, the very real possibility of making yourselves a massive laughing stock by replacing a Champions League winner with an unknown. Looking towards Japan worked for Arsenal with Arsene Wenger, but what are the chances of that happening again? It's hardly like English football and Brazilians have ever been an easy fit.




ROY HODGSON (12/1)
Currently: Manager of a Fulham side punching above their weight.


Pedrigree: Titles in Sweden and Denmark, Inter in the UEFA Cup final and Fulham in the Europa last four.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: A master of organisation, Hodgson would certainly get the best possible out of Liverpool without spending a vast amount of money. He also has the likeability factor because nobody dislikes Woy except Blackburn fans with long memories. He's managed at Inter Milan so he certainly wouldn't be fazed by the pressure, and he's made it clear he doesn't see himself at Fulham forever. If Liverpool are looking for a safe pair of hands, they could do an awful lot worse.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: Appointing a 62-year-old manager does not emit a clear signal in terms of long-term planning, while - like O'Neill - he would lack the X Factor. He's likeable but hardly dynamic. Should one of the biggest clubs in the world be managed by a likeable grandad?




MARK HUGHES (12/1)
Currently: Out of work.


Pedrigree: Won bugger all as a manager.


Why He Will Be Liverpool Manager: He's the only one on this list currently available and he would need absolutely no persuasion to join a Big Four club after being ousted from Manchester City. He's got youth on his side and could probably persuade some of City's fringe players (Ireland, Wright-Phillips, Richards) to jump ship for the right price. He did have a pop at playing entertaining football at City, even if it didn't always work.


Why He Won't Be Liverpool Manager: Most remain unconvinced that he can manage at a big club under severe external and internal pressure. If he could not get City into the top four with unlimited funds, what chance has he got at Liverpool? And remember, this is a man who thinks Joleon Lescott is worth £20-odd million.




THE REST
Hiddink, Klinsmann, McLeish 16/1, Schuster 20/1.
 
None of these names fill me with dread.

Surprised the odds on McLeish are so high given the rumours.
 
Someone fairly intelligent, but with a straightforward approach, who has played or managed in top flight English football please.

Mourinho would be ideal, but unlikely. O'Neill is probably a good option.
 
I have a sneaky feeling for Hughes as an outside bet.
I'd love the club to put everything they have into getting José to come here.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087811#msg1087811 date=1271255372]
Most of those names fill me with dread
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[quote author=robinhood link=topic=39818.msg1087813#msg1087813 date=1271255458]
Someone fairly intelligent, but with a straightforward approach, who has played or managed in top flight English football please.

Mourinho would be ideal, but unlikely. O'Neill is probably a good option.
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Unlikely though it does seem in various ways, the bookies keep making Mourinho favourite, and they don't habitually get things wrong.

Include me out where O'Neill's concerned. He's proven in the past that he can be a big fish in a small pool, but Villa keep flattering to deceive and I'm not at all convinced he'd be the right man for us.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087817#msg1087817 date=1271255587]
Why is MONg a good option?
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He's pragmatic and seems to know how to put a team together.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087811#msg1087811 date=1271255372]
Most of those names fill me with dread
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pick your manager of choice then oh wonderful all knowing sage!
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=39818.msg1087828#msg1087828 date=1271255953]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087817#msg1087817 date=1271255587]
Why is MONg a good option?
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He's pragmatic and seems to know how to put a team together.
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He does and I did put his name forward for a while, but he also seems to have a habit of falling to pieces well before the final straight. No ta. Nice bloke, organised etc but I worry whether he came make the next step, and if that's the concern then he shouldn't be considered really, we want a step up from Benitez or at least someone exciting and young enough to have the potential to breath some life back into us.
 
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[quote author=robinhood link=topic=39818.msg1087813#msg1087813 date=1271255458]
Someone fairly intelligent, but with a straightforward approach, who has played or managed in top flight English football please.

Mourinho would be ideal, but unlikely. O'Neill is probably a good option.
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Unlikely though it does seem in various ways, the bookies keep making Mourinho favourite, and they don't habitually get things wrong.

Include me out where O'Neill's concerned. He's proven in the past that he can be a big fish in a small pool, but Villa keep flattering to deceive and I'm not at all convinced he'd be the right man for us.
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Yea JJ.
But Jose is probably favourite with bookies for the Madrid job as well, along with two or three other top positions if they were to become available.

Also, I would feel similarly underwhelmed by Martin O Neill, whose record at Villa doesn't seem quite so fantastic on close inspection.

Improving the management of the team isn't just simply a matter of gettting rid of the current one.
 
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[quote author=robinhood link=topic=39818.msg1087828#msg1087828 date=1271255953]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087817#msg1087817 date=1271255587]
Why is MONg a good option?
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He's pragmatic and seems to know how to put a team together.
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He does and I did put his name forward for a while, but he also seems to have a habit of falling to pieces well before the final straight. No ta. Nice bloke, organised etc but I worry whether he came make the next step, and if that's the concern then he shouldn't be considered really, we want a step up from Benitez or at least someone exciting and young enough to have the potential to breath some life back into us.
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He seems very animated and full of life to me, Mark. Like you I think we need someone to breath life into us and I think he could do it.

As for his teams collapsing towards the wnd of the season, that's a fair enough criticism. But our manager can't start the bloody season, it's just if you finish the season strong you draw less criticism over the summer, yet both are equally costly.

Mourinho aside, no one is going to be the perfect candidate.
 
Just for the record - I'm not saying he's the best manager out there or anything - but I don't follow the logic that because he can't quite make it work yet at Villa it means that he can't do it for us.

We've got a much stronger squad as far as I'm concerned (bar a couple of wide players), and this would help him. We've got a squad that needs to play 433. He's happy to play 433. He's capable of picking up a decent wide man and seems to talk sense most of the time.

A lot of that would be a refreshing change.

I accept that he's not fashionable or a big name, but Benitez is a big name and he can't do it, so being a big name doesn't actually mean a lot.

What we need is someone who can make the most of what we currently have, understands English football, and doesn't overcomplicate things
 
Mouinho is the stand-out choice, and nobody else really excites me

The other option is to take a massive, massive gamble on someone relatively untested in the Premiership, who has the ideas, energy, support, charisma, knowledge and force of personality to make us great again

There have been some gambles like this that have paid off spectacularly (Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger, Guardiola) but many, many more that have failed badly
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087846#msg1087846 date=1271256693]
The other option is to take a massive, massive gamble on someone relatively untested in the Premiership, who has the ideas, energy, support, charisma, knowledge and force of personality to make us great again[/quote]

I wouldn't mind this if they had played English football at the top level. Preferably for us.

But who?
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087846#msg1087846 date=1271256693]
The other option is to take a massive, massive gamble on someone relatively untested in the Premiership, who has the ideas, energy, support, charisma, knowledge and force of personality to make us great again[/quote]

I wouldn't mind this if they had played English football at the top level. Preferably for us.

But who?
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The guvnor.
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=39818.msg1087849#msg1087849 date=1271256772]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087846#msg1087846 date=1271256693]
The other option is to take a massive, massive gamble on someone relatively untested in the Premiership, who has the ideas, energy, support, charisma, knowledge and force of personality to make us great again[/quote]

I wouldn't mind this if they had played English football at the top level. Preferably for us.

But who?
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Paul Ince :🙂
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=39818.msg1087843#msg1087843 date=1271256588]
Just for the record - I'm not saying he's the best manager out there or anything - but I don't follow the logic that because he can't quite make it work yet at Villa it means that he can't do it for us.

We've got a much stronger squad as far as I'm concerned (bar a couple of wide players), and this would help him. We've got a squad that needs to play 433. He's happy to play 433. He's capable of picking up a decent wide man and seems to talk sense most of the time.

A lot of that would be a refreshing change.

I accept that he's not fashionable or a big name, but Benitez is a big name and he can't do it, so being a big name doesn't actually mean a lot.

What we need is someone who can make the most of what we currently have, understands English football, and doesn't overcomplicate things
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The logic is fairly simple, Robin - I prefer whoever's appointed to manage my club to have a track record at the kind of level we hope and expect to occupy, with the degree of competition which that implies. I don't think it's a job for someone whose record at top Prem level is limited, in terms of both duration and success. Nor am I convinced our squad is necessarily better than theirs overall.

Good summary in your last para.though.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39818.msg1087851#msg1087851 date=1271256948]
Mourinho and Wenger couldn't get in a pub side
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Sure. I wouldn't mind someone "untested" as long as they fulfil certain criteria. Ie understanding English football, and preferably our club.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39818.msg1087858#msg1087858 date=1271257279]
Unoriginal minds think alike, Count.
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Ha, I think you are being too kind.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=39818.msg1087856#msg1087856 date=1271257203]
The logic is fairly simple, Robin - I prefer whoever's appointed to manage my club to have a track record at the kind of level we hope and expect to occupy, with the degree of competition which that implies. [/quote]

As this approach didn't work with Benitez, I'd be interested in trying out someone less highly thought of, who hopefully ticks some other boxes.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39818.msg1087862#msg1087862 date=1271257465]
What do you mean by understanding our club?
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Ideally, if an untested individual, someone who's played for us.
 
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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39818.msg1087862#msg1087862 date=1271257465]
What do you mean by understanding our club?
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Ideally, if an untested individual, someone who's played for us.
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Someone say "Alan Hansen" and get it over with.

Then we can all say "Oooh, loves the club, but has stated that he never wants to be a manager; cest la vie...."

Then we can look at the list again, shit ourselves, and pray to christ that Barclays Capital get the fuck on with it and Mourinho is shoe horned in.

The alternatives are flipping dire.
 
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