Kelly: I'm fit again
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Why though?
He's built like a brick and maybe, just maybe, next season he could form a partnership with Sakho and that way we wouldn't have to worry whether it'd be Skrtel or Agger that fuck up this time.
I know it probably won't happen...but it'd be nice if it did.
He's built like a brick and maybe, just maybe, next season he could form a partnership with Sakho and that way we wouldn't have to worry whether it'd be Skrtel or Agger that fuck up this time.
I know it probably won't happen...but it'd be nice if it did.
I know what you mean, I just think he's well down the pecking order for central defense. I know it's an idea that's always been mentioned on here, but it's only something he's done in practice at reserve level. We do need a right footer for the long term though, but I guess that's where Illori or Wisdom might come in.
It is, and arguably both have a part to play, but at their age, neither of them have nailed their place in the team by showing enough consistency, so their positions and futures are rightly open.
If Kelly's 'built like a brick' I reckon his parents will be appearing on Cowboy Builders shortly.
Welcome back, Kelly.
I think he's got a big future with LFC. Whether it be fullback or centre back.
I think he's got a big future with LFC. Whether it be fullback or centre back.
I see way more potential in him than Wisdom, which I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with, but his height, pace, and the fact he's come through our youth, suffered a lot of injuries, but at a great age now gives me hope that he might be able to make it.
Much, much, much prefer him to Flannagan if that means anything.
Much, much, much prefer him to Flannagan if that means anything.
I don't really. The thing with Wisdom is he's clearly not a right back, Kelly had the hit-and-run pace to get by in that position, he'd knock it down the wing, run onto it and try to whip a ball in, whereas Wisdom looked suspect in tight areas, but when you put him at centre back, he's a different proposition bringing the ball forward and looks far more at ease technically.
Kelly just seems alot less subtle in many respects and for all his pace bailing him out at fullback, his positional sense makes Johnson look like Marcus Babbel. There were too many games where he was getting found out and leaving gaping holes between the right hand side and centre back. Wisdom just made mistakes because he was clearly incredibly uncomfortable there. Longterm I think Wisdom has all the raw attributes of a big commanding centre back. I've not seen enough of Kelly there to make a judgement as of yet, but time is pushing on for him and as I said, as a fullback he's not quite as good as his mobility from that position suggests.
Flanno is quite Carra-like I guess, though his technical ability has come on loads in the last few years, he's a defender first and foremost and it's perhaps afforded us that ability again to have one of the fullbacks tucking in as a third defender in the centre when needed. Something we've lacked since Rafa's Arbeloa/Finnan days. You lose something going forward but it's given us that extra solidity on that side.
But wingers have been skipping past Flanno with ease over the last two games...
I don't remember much going down his side against West Ham. Like I said in another thread, players have been rampaging down our right handside for years, but no one seems arsed, coz yer know, Johnson's good when we have the ball.
I see far more in Wisdom than Kelly.
Time will tell I guess, and certainly neither of them look bad players - there's talent there in both of them - but I guess from what I've seen of Wisdom, he looks an absolutely outstanding prospect.
The Derby fans have been raving about Wisdom.
And he is quite good at right back, with a better cross than Johnson.
I used to have great faith in Wisdom and Kelly maturing into CBs for us but Ilori has blown that out of the water. He's the new Lawro, a huge prospect with great skill, great temperament, and I can't see anyone stopping him from becoming a regular CB for years to come. It's one place up for grabs now IMHO.
Good to hear that.
From what I've heard he's been physically fit for ages. It's been the mental worry of getting injured again that's been the problem.
CB, I think he picked up the MOM on either his debut or thereafter
Johnson's ridiculously poor at stopping those crosses coming in, but you should also recognize the importance of his involvement when we have the ball. It would have been brilliant had he become a top defender, but looks like he never will. So it's about the balance of what he offers. And when he was out this season you could really see how much we missed him by having no width on the right, and even on the rare occasions our rb got forward, could do fuck all with it.
Same thing with Enrique being out of the team on the left, as him, Coutinho and Suarez have often combined brilliantly in attack (and no one gets past Enrique on the left, though poor marking/concentration is his major downfall).
Kelly's solid enough as a defender but also offers pace and is an outlet down the wing, so I'd much rather see him there than Flannagan. Would be different if Flanno was as good at defending as Carra was as a side back, but he clearly isn't.
that's low. if you're description of magic was right we would be having a the konchesky rb equivalent in our team for the last few years. you have a serious agenda against magic, which makes you come out with irrational statements.
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