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Juergen Klinsmann the Revolutionizer.....interesting read....

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German lessons

By Jurgen Klinsmann
World Cup-winning striker, former Germany coach and BBC pundit

Germany have impressed everyone with their attacking displays en route to the semi-finals of this World Cup.

But it is only six years ago that, like England this summer, they were returning home early from a major tournament and wondering what the future held.

Germany had to rebuild after the disaster of the 2004 European Championship in Portugal. We did not win a game and failed to get out of our group.

I got the chance to decide on the direction we took when I agreed to take over as Germany coach that summer, with current manager Joachim Loew as my assistant.

'Jogi' and I began the whole regeneration process by trying to give our national team an identity.

We eventually decided to go down an attack-minded route, passing the ball on the ground from the back to the front line as quickly as possible using dynamic football.

From that, we created a style of play that this Germany team in South Africa now really lives and breathes. Since 2004, we have reached two World Cup semi-finals and the final of Euro 2008.

Can England recover from their poor showing in South Africa as quickly as Germany did six years ago? Yes, but they cannot just copy the German style and expect that to succeed for them.

Every nation has its own culture and specific environment as well as its own footballing identity. England have to develop their own vision and decide how they should play.

As I found, making that vision work is not an easy process. It will take time and England's results might not be positive while it takes effect.

England will also need the help of the Premier League. Every club coach will have their own philosophy but I tried to work with those in the Bundesliga to build something together.

There are a lot of foreign players and managers in England but that should not make a difference. You simply have to explain to them what the style of play is that you want to develop and be prepared to persevere.

When Jogi and I took over the German side, we made our plans very public and made it clear that we were trying to rebuild from the bottom up.

The German Football Association (DFB) helped us by putting a lot of pressure on all the first and second division teams in the Bundesliga to build academy programmes and ensure talented young players were coming through but we still had to decide on our playing style.
Whatever approach the England team decides on, everybody in the English game needs to sign up to it
Jurgen Klinsmann

To do that, we quizzed everyone we could.

We held workshops with German coaches and players, asking them to write down on flip charts three things: how they wanted to play, how they wanted to be seen to be playing by the rest of the world and how the German public wanted to see us playing.

If we could define all of that, we thought we could lay out how we wanted to work and then, from there, sort out the training and paperwork behind the scenes.

What we ended up with amounted to 10 or 12 bullet points laying out our proposals. We then announced that it was our intention to play a fast-paced game, an attacking game and a proactive game.

That last term was something the Germans did not really like because they did not really understand what proactive meant. We just told them it meant we did not react to what our opponents did, we played the way that was right for us.

Once we had done all that, we created a curriculum for German football and presented it to the Bundesliga and DFB boards.

At that point, I told them I did not have the time to implement the strategy at all levels because I only had two years to prepare for the World Cup, so I asked for Germany's Under-21 team to adopt it and that was it.

I brought in a former international team-mate of mine, Dieter Eilts, to run the under-21s and said they had to play the same way as the senior team because they would be a feeder for it.

I was always looking long-term but I knew our plans would be measured by our success at the 2006 World Cup.

There was a lot of negative media at the start. Everybody agreed German football had to change after 2004 but nobody actually wanted to adopt our proposals.

For example, we told the Bundesliga teams and coaches that their players needed to be fitter to play the kind of football we wanted to play.

That meant carrying out fitness tests every three months, which did not go down well with some clubs because I was able to prove that some of them were training their players properly and others were not.

I was basically doubted for the two years I was coach - and when we lost 4-1 to Italy in a friendly game three months before the 2006 World Cup, everybody wanted my blood!

We had another game three weeks later against the United States and we won that one 4-1.

That victory saved my job and kept me in charge for the World Cup because the DFB had been ready to make a change. They wanted the conservative approach again, not the revolution.

But I kept on being positive, explaining that this was how I wanted us to play. I did not know if we would master it in time for the 2006 World Cup but we would give it a shot.

We had the players for four solid weeks before the tournament began and were able to get our thoughts across. They agreed to train the way we wanted them to and do extra work. Soon they started to believe in the system.

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That was crucial because, no matter what your job is, you need to identify yourself with the work that you are doing and be happy.

I was happy because, as a former striker, I liked the style we intended to play. I could never coach a team that played defensive-minded football.

I also think the players understood that I was the one taking the risk and that if it did not work out the DFB would send me packing back to California!

We started well at the 2006 World Cup and the public began to feel that something special was going to happen.

In the second game, when we beat Poland with a last-minute goal, the whole nation embraced us and said "yeah, that's our team and that's how we want them to play". We lost in the semi-final against Italy but I was still very proud.

After that World Cup, I was burned out after two years of banging my head against a wall but I made it clear to the DFB that Jogi had to take over after me to continue the job we had started.

He has continued to develop that initial style of play and is enjoying success. It has taken Germany six years to learn to play it properly - and it has developed along the way - but the players are completely comfortable with it now.

Germany's style of play might work for England because, in a way, Germany now play a lot like a typical Premier League team, with the emphasis on pacy attacks.

But whatever approach the England team decides on - whether it is attacking or defensive, patient or high tempo - everybody in the English game needs to sign up to it.

After all, it is the players, coaches and clubs who will help to make it work.

Jurgen Klinsmann was speaking to Chris Bevan in Cape Town.
Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8789682.stm

Published: 2010/07/05 15:51:59 GMT

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Very interesting from Klinsman. Obviously somewhat self-serving considering he was one of the architects of the system but I wonder just how bad a choice for our club he would have been. Certainly at the time he was approached by Hicks and Gillette Rafa was enjoying success and should not have been replaced, but I was never as convinced as most on here that he would be a terrible appointment. Two World Cups in a row we have witnessed "the worst German team ever" (I'm sure I've heard that exact phrase on here) get to a semi-final.
 
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Very interesting from Klinsman. Obviously somewhat self-serving considering he was one of the architects of the system but I wonder just how bad a choice for our club he would have been. Certainly at the time he was approached by Hicks and Gillette Rafa was enjoying success and should not have been replaced, but I was never as convinced as most on here that he would be a terrible appointment. Two World Cups in a row we have witnessed "the worst German team ever" (I'm sure I've heard that exact phrase on here) get to a semi-final.
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Not convinced, Canada. As we in England have been reminded to our cost this summer, international success and club success aren't necessarily interchangeable. Klinsmann's a bright and likeable guy and could well have a future in management if he wants it, but had (and still has) little experience at club level. Even for Germany his tenure went a little sour later.
 
A great deal of that appears to be Jurgen crediting himself with what Joachim Loew has achieved in this world cup. Which may or may not be true, but doesn't make him any less of a smug twat.

And an out of work one, presumably?
 
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A great deal of that appears to be Jurgen crediting himself with what Joachim Loew has achieved in this world cup. Which may or may not be true, but doesn't make him any less of a smug twat.

And an out of work one, presumably?
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to be fair it was under klinsman that you first started to see an attacking germany
 
Don't forget Sammer. He's responsible for the German national youth teams, focusing on young talents between the ages of eleven and eighteen, as well as incorporating the latest developments in sports science into the DFB's training theories. They have Sammer to thank for players like Özil, Muller, Badstuber etc
 
Jogi has been the brains behind this German setup - even while Klinsmann was manager.

Klinsmann couldn't figure out the best XI without Jogi.

He was picking players like Kuranyi, Hitzelsperger, Huth, Asamoah, Owomoyela, Brdaric in the starting line up!!!
 
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Don't forget Sammer. He's responsible for the German national youth teams, focusing on young talents between the ages of eleven and eighteen, as well as incorporating the latest developments in sports science into the DFB's training theories. They have Sammer to thank for players like Özil, Muller, Badstuber etc
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Badstuber's shite, but - other than that - good point.
 
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[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=40871.msg1131612#msg1131612 date=1278386152]
Very interesting from Klinsman. Obviously somewhat self-serving considering he was one of the architects of the system but I wonder just how bad a choice for our club he would have been. Certainly at the time he was approached by Hicks and Gillette Rafa was enjoying success and should not have been replaced, but I was never as convinced as most on here that he would be a terrible appointment. Two World Cups in a row we have witnessed "the worst German team ever" (I'm sure I've heard that exact phrase on here) get to a semi-final.
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Not convinced, Canada. As we in England have been reminded to our cost this summer, international success and club success aren't necessarily interchangeable. Klinsmann's a bright and likeable guy and could well have a future in management if he wants it, but had (and still has) little experience at club level. Even for Germany his tenure went a little sour later.
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Never said I thought he would be great but I am curious how it would have turned out and I'm not convinced it would have been as bad as typically assumed.
 
Perfectly fair point of view, but I don't share it. For all the Germans' excellence at this World Cup I still want Spain to win, partly because I'd love to see Torres stay with us and be firing on all cylinders after getting a WC winner's medal and partly because they have such a crop of talented footballers in that squad - Iniesta, Villa, Xavi and the rest would make very worthy champions. Last but not least, I wonder what fireworks we'd see from Pepe when the final whistle blows in the WC Final and Spain have won.
 
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I actually think Uruguay will win tonight.
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Wouldn't be totally surprised. They have ability and cynicism, as S.American sides often do, plus a hefty dose of the Istanbul spirit, which you don't always get from the S.Americans.

That said, they'll be missing one or two key players and I'm not sure they can afford to do so. Overall I think Holland may just shade it.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40871.msg1131739#msg1131739 date=1278426423]
I'd like Holland to win and Dirkio to score the decisive goal in the final.
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Tell you what - if they get to the Final he's a good bet to score. The man is a big occasion player for sure.
 
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40871.msg1131739#msg1131739 date=1278426423]
I'd like Holland to win and Dirkio to score the decisive goal in the final.
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Tell you what - if they get to the Final he's a good bet to score. The man is a big occasion player for sure.
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Or as Steve McClaren would say, 'The man ish a big occashion player for sure'.
 
Jogi is the only person that can shed light on Klinsmann's claims. Needless to say it makes no difference. They are playing sexy football.

I'm hoping the Dutch go all the way and win it.
 
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