Erm...Old TraffordI refuse to believe that because we didn't have specific people in specific roles other directors simply ignored the situation. Which other business would this happen in? I've worked in little shitty pubs and on the board of billion quid companies and neither of them would have ignored what is essentially a leaking roof, no matter who was employed at the time.
I work in a University, and people would ignore the fuck out of almost any problem.I refuse to believe that because we didn't have specific people in specific roles other directors simply ignored the situation. Which other business would this happen in? I've worked in little shitty pubs and on the board of billion quid companies and neither of them would have ignored what is essentially a leaking roof, no matter who was employed at the time.
@Woland if we let him go, there is no fucking way we would buy an RB for 80M. We would look for Robbo level purchasesI think the point has been made earlier. If we stupidly let him go we'd end up spending 80m plus the wages to replace him and probs end up with something inferior. So just pay the cunt. If he wasn't brilliant and in his prime I wouldn't be that arsed, but he is and he is.
I think the point has been made earlier. If we stupidly let him go we'd end up spending 80m plus the wages to replace him and probs end up with something inferior. So just pay the cunt. If he wasn't brilliant and in his prime I wouldn't be that arsed, but he is and he is.
Just a note - the fact that we have left his contract negotiations till this late suggests that the Club may have been not best pleased with his performances in recent seasons. I don't think they consider him worth what he thinks he is worth. Just an opinion and has nothing to do with Math.
@Woland if we let him go, there is no fucking way we would buy an RB for 80M. We would look for Robbo level purchases
I think his own lack of interest in his former role has kindof highlighted that while HE is worth 80m and high wages, his value to our team is significantly less. It's the same reason he didn't work out for England in lieu of objectively worse footballers.
I am not saying that's an argument for getting rid of him, and there is no argument to letting him go on a free, the fact that we're in this position with him is crazy, but that is how we'll look at it.
I think it's also fair to say that he isn't worth as much as he was two years ago, and I hate that that's the case.
I don't think he's worth any less. I think he's worth more. If he was on a long contract and Madrid came knocking we'd be talking well north of a hundred.
I think his own lack of interest in his former role has kindof highlighted that while HE is worth 80m and high wages, his value to our team is significantly less. It's the same reason he didn't work out for England in lieu of objectively worse footballers.
I am not saying that's an argument for getting rid of him, and there is no argument to letting him go on a free, the fact that we're in this position with him is crazy, but that is how we'll look at it.
I think it's also fair to say that he isn't worth as much as he was two years ago, and I hate that that's the case.
His role for England is down to playing for the wrong type of manager.
And we could always sell him a year or two down the line and recover his wages!I think the point has been made earlier. If we stupidly let him go we'd end up spending 80m plus the wages to replace him and probs end up with something inferior. So just pay the cunt. If he wasn't brilliant and in his prime I wouldn't be that arsed, but he is and he is.
Let me put it another way, do you think he has markedly improved as a player in the last two years? I'm not sure he has. The bulky version of him for me was objectively worse.
We went from "he's the best RB in the entire world and has redefined what is possible with the position" to "is he a right back, and what is his best position?"
To be clear, I love Trent. I think on a great team you want these difference makers. I just don't know what he wants.
To be honest I don't read much analysis, I don't watch the dickheads on sky, I don't listen to any liverpool podcasts, I don't watch England or give a fuck what their dickhead manager thinks, I just go and watch him most home games. He's great. Best we've ever had. I'm not sure this whole positional thing is nearly as big a deal as I read it is on here.
Were you convinced with him as a CM? Or even inverting? Do you think he was more devastating making long diagonals and balls over the top or closer to the touch line and up the pitch. The stats say old trent mode was better. Slot prefers it. My eyes prefer it.
The question is whether Trent is... fulfilled by it? He'll be fine with it, he'll do some amazing shit either way, but if he's got the need to have a big change, and it isn't happening in CM, he may like the idea of a different adventure in another way.
Those quotes are more what I thought at the time vs now, rather than any sort of punditry.
The positional thing is only an issue if it's an issue for Trent. I think it at least was an issue, based on what he has said and how focused he appeared, but maybe I'm wrong.
We did a cost review exercise one time with a view to finding overhead savings. We were told we couldn't touch the football side of things, so we ended up making tiny savings here and there when we could have saved millions by eliminating waste at Melwood.I refuse to believe that because we didn't have specific people in specific roles other directors simply ignored the situation. Which other business would this happen in? I've worked in little shitty pubs and on the board of billion quid companies and neither of them would have ignored what is essentially a leaking roof, no matter who was employed at the time.
Well all this about FSG being genius is bullshit then eh. Always thought they were opportunistic cunts but can't see why anyone would want to ignore these three huge problems.
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Seeing how tight the club is these days. They would just replace him with Connor Bradley and not buy anyone.I think the point has been made earlier. If we stupidly let him go we'd end up spending 80m plus the wages to replace him and probs end up with something inferior. So just pay the cunt. If he wasn't brilliant and in his prime I wouldn't be that arsed, but he is and he is.
Which would make sense. We can't possibly find a like-for-like replacement to TAA, and we'd be hard pressed finding an available right back that's better than Bradley.Seeing how tight the club is these days. They would just replace him with Connor Bradley and not buy anyone.
I dont understandIt's amazing really isn't it. We can put men on the moon but you can't bum a frog without it splitting.