If we sign Darren Bent
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I think that's pretty accurate.
Do we need anyone to create anything or work for the team though?
Do we need anyone to create anything or work for the team though?
We need someone who knows that hitting the woodwork is unsatisfactory and we need to put the ball several inches inside the woodwork.
I want to see Bent's woodwork stats.
I want to see Bent's woodwork stats.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=48146.msg1456096#msg1456096 date=1325690113]
You think Bent is a bad rumour?
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/reds-eye-up-robbie-2979085.html
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I think I'd prefer if we took him on loan for a couple of months rather than spent 20m on bent.
You think Bent is a bad rumour?
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/reds-eye-up-robbie-2979085.html
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I think I'd prefer if we took him on loan for a couple of months rather than spent 20m on bent.
Yay!! Let's get Torres and Keane together on loan deals!!
#dreamcombo
#dreamcombo
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48146.msg1456221#msg1456221 date=1325698058]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=48146.msg1456096#msg1456096 date=1325690113]
You think Bent is a bad rumour?
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/reds-eye-up-robbie-2979085.html
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I think I'd prefer if we took him on loan for a couple of months rather than spent 20m on bent.
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Lordy !
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=48146.msg1456096#msg1456096 date=1325690113]
You think Bent is a bad rumour?
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/reds-eye-up-robbie-2979085.html
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I think I'd prefer if we took him on loan for a couple of months rather than spent 20m on bent.
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Lordy !
[quote author=Binny link=topic=48146.msg1456186#msg1456186 date=1325695055]
I'm trying to take a positive view.
He averages a goal every other game for almost every club he played for, except Ipswich during his early days and Tottenham.
Even for the failed stint at White Hart Lane, he was top league scorer in the league and for the club in season 08/09 with 12 and 17 goals respectively.
The names of Barrios and Lewandowski doesn't fill me with confidence - not saying they won't do well but compared to the stature of say Suarez was with Ajax, the duo are part of a raising Dortmund team, not exactly in the established star mould, at least not at the moment in my opinion.
I'm starting to be detached from figures and fees quoted/mentioned. The market has seldom been sane, clubs take advantage of buying club's need/desperation to strengthen a certain person, and most importantly, whats 10m-15m above valuation when we've blown 55m on 2 players? Not to say I condone such waste/non-nonsensical spending but one would like to think the likes of Ian Ayre knows where the club's financial standing is.
I'm not an advocator for EPL-proven either but how any signing now should be geared towards making an immediate impact for a surge towards CL qualification. Otherwise we might as well use the remaining of the season to 'bed' the signings in with a string of regular starts. Can't ignore the fact that having experience in the league does help - e.g. Enrique vs. Taiwo/Cissokho/Pereira etc. - surely the Championship experience helped.
There's the Euros too. Those established at their current club are unlikely to leave. Like Podolski mentioned, there's no need to jeopardize by moving to a new team/league. Besides they would've come so far probably because of their current club - so there's the sentimental part. Or for example in Valencia - Soldado's case, neither party have a strong case to sell/leave and at the moment are well-matched for each other.
Then there's also our current situation. Any signing coming in knows we're in the fight for CL qualification, with no guarantees that we'll make it. It could be a CL-less season next campaign. Might sound silly but its similar predicament that players joining clubs fighting against relegation face. Continue to excel and I might get a move to a big club next summer. Is the move worth the 'risks' involved?
Just want to reiterate I'm not advocating for Bent's signing, nor am I overly impressed with the rumour and link, less so by the price tag, but there are factors to consider
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Where are the bold bits !!!!
I'm trying to take a positive view.
He averages a goal every other game for almost every club he played for, except Ipswich during his early days and Tottenham.
Even for the failed stint at White Hart Lane, he was top league scorer in the league and for the club in season 08/09 with 12 and 17 goals respectively.
The names of Barrios and Lewandowski doesn't fill me with confidence - not saying they won't do well but compared to the stature of say Suarez was with Ajax, the duo are part of a raising Dortmund team, not exactly in the established star mould, at least not at the moment in my opinion.
I'm starting to be detached from figures and fees quoted/mentioned. The market has seldom been sane, clubs take advantage of buying club's need/desperation to strengthen a certain person, and most importantly, whats 10m-15m above valuation when we've blown 55m on 2 players? Not to say I condone such waste/non-nonsensical spending but one would like to think the likes of Ian Ayre knows where the club's financial standing is.
I'm not an advocator for EPL-proven either but how any signing now should be geared towards making an immediate impact for a surge towards CL qualification. Otherwise we might as well use the remaining of the season to 'bed' the signings in with a string of regular starts. Can't ignore the fact that having experience in the league does help - e.g. Enrique vs. Taiwo/Cissokho/Pereira etc. - surely the Championship experience helped.
There's the Euros too. Those established at their current club are unlikely to leave. Like Podolski mentioned, there's no need to jeopardize by moving to a new team/league. Besides they would've come so far probably because of their current club - so there's the sentimental part. Or for example in Valencia - Soldado's case, neither party have a strong case to sell/leave and at the moment are well-matched for each other.
Then there's also our current situation. Any signing coming in knows we're in the fight for CL qualification, with no guarantees that we'll make it. It could be a CL-less season next campaign. Might sound silly but its similar predicament that players joining clubs fighting against relegation face. Continue to excel and I might get a move to a big club next summer. Is the move worth the 'risks' involved?
Just want to reiterate I'm not advocating for Bent's signing, nor am I overly impressed with the rumour and link, less so by the price tag, but there are factors to consider
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Where are the bold bits !!!!
Yea, fuck you Binny.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48146.msg1456221#msg1456221 date=1325698058]
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=48146.msg1456096#msg1456096 date=1325690113]
You think Bent is a bad rumour?
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/reds-eye-up-robbie-2979085.html
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I think I'd prefer if we took him on loan for a couple of months rather than spent 20m on bent.
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I honestly would rather we blew £20million on Bent.
I hated it when we signed him first time round, and said it would be a mistake, as I did with Carroll too for that matter. Someone better be polishing that Blue Peter badge for me sometime soon
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=48146.msg1456096#msg1456096 date=1325690113]
You think Bent is a bad rumour?
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/reds-eye-up-robbie-2979085.html
[/quote]
I think I'd prefer if we took him on loan for a couple of months rather than spent 20m on bent.
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I honestly would rather we blew £20million on Bent.
I hated it when we signed him first time round, and said it would be a mistake, as I did with Carroll too for that matter. Someone better be polishing that Blue Peter badge for me sometime soon
we probably have to get used to the fact that the club don't want all those talented foreigners who'll end up leaving for bigger clubs. they want a team that will stay together.
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48146.msg1456263#msg1456263 date=1325700921]
we probably have to get used to the fact that the club don't want all those talented foreigners who'll end up leaving for bigger clubs. they want a team that will stay together.
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And be shit together for years ?
we probably have to get used to the fact that the club don't want all those talented foreigners who'll end up leaving for bigger clubs. they want a team that will stay together.
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And be shit together for years ?
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48146.msg1456264#msg1456264 date=1325701018]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48146.msg1456263#msg1456263 date=1325700921]
we probably have to get used to the fact that the club don't want all those talented foreigners who'll end up leaving for bigger clubs. they want a team that will stay together.
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And be shit together for years ?
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who knows. it seems likely but who knows.
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48146.msg1456263#msg1456263 date=1325700921]
we probably have to get used to the fact that the club don't want all those talented foreigners who'll end up leaving for bigger clubs. they want a team that will stay together.
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And be shit together for years ?
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who knows. it seems likely but who knows.
good in the box but rubbish outside the box. I know we're struggling for goals but we need better.
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48146.msg1456185#msg1456185 date=1325695034]
This is how it feels to be Tottenham
This is how it feels to be small
This is how it feels when your scouts
Don't watch football at all.
[/quote] just a minor edit for you mate
This is how it feels to be Tottenham
This is how it feels to be small
This is how it feels when your scouts
Don't watch football at all.
[/quote] just a minor edit for you mate
[quote author=Graham link=topic=48146.msg1456204#msg1456204 date=1325697188]
His record is not in doubt. The general consensus seems to be that opposing teams play differently against Liverpool compared to the teams for which Bent has scored his goals therefore he may struggle to continue his 1 in 2 strike rate at Anfield.
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This is the most important point regarding Bent.
His record is not in doubt. The general consensus seems to be that opposing teams play differently against Liverpool compared to the teams for which Bent has scored his goals therefore he may struggle to continue his 1 in 2 strike rate at Anfield.
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This is the most important point regarding Bent.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=48146.msg1456347#msg1456347 date=1325709591]
[quote author=Graham link=topic=48146.msg1456204#msg1456204 date=1325697188]
His record is not in doubt. The general consensus seems to be that opposing teams play differently against Liverpool compared to the teams for which Bent has scored his goals therefore he may struggle to continue his 1 in 2 strike rate at Anfield.
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This is the most important point regarding Bent.
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It's also one that applies to Downing. He's previously played in teams that play on the counter attack against stretched defenses.
In hindsight, it's no massive shock to see him struggling for us in very different circumstances.
[quote author=Graham link=topic=48146.msg1456204#msg1456204 date=1325697188]
His record is not in doubt. The general consensus seems to be that opposing teams play differently against Liverpool compared to the teams for which Bent has scored his goals therefore he may struggle to continue his 1 in 2 strike rate at Anfield.
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This is the most important point regarding Bent.
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It's also one that applies to Downing. He's previously played in teams that play on the counter attack against stretched defenses.
In hindsight, it's no massive shock to see him struggling for us in very different circumstances.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48146.msg1456375#msg1456375 date=1325710623]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48146.msg1456374#msg1456374 date=1325710551]
Cant see us signing him for the silly money Villa want anyway
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Ha, yeah we're known for walking away from deals when clubs are asking for too much money
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Ha, quite. Fuck its happening then isnt it?!?!
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48146.msg1456374#msg1456374 date=1325710551]
Cant see us signing him for the silly money Villa want anyway
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Ha, yeah we're known for walking away from deals when clubs are asking for too much money
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Ha, quite. Fuck its happening then isnt it?!?!
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48146.msg1456376#msg1456376 date=1325710639]
I don't think we'll sign Bent. Latest twatter rumours are all about Luuk de Jong
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His goals to games ratio in the dutch league is around 1 in 2. Less than both Kuyt and Suarez while they were there. Just saying 8)
I don't think we'll sign Bent. Latest twatter rumours are all about Luuk de Jong
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His goals to games ratio in the dutch league is around 1 in 2. Less than both Kuyt and Suarez while they were there. Just saying 8)
[quote author=The Skrtmonster link=topic=48146.msg1456403#msg1456403 date=1325711516]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48146.msg1456376#msg1456376 date=1325710639]
I don't think we'll sign Bent. Latest twatter rumours are all about Luuk de Jong
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His goals to games ratio in the dutch league is around 1 in 2. Less than both Kuyt and Suarez while they were there. Just saying 8)
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shite
itll be a cahill dry run til he scores
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48146.msg1456376#msg1456376 date=1325710639]
I don't think we'll sign Bent. Latest twatter rumours are all about Luuk de Jong
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His goals to games ratio in the dutch league is around 1 in 2. Less than both Kuyt and Suarez while they were there. Just saying 8)
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shite
itll be a cahill dry run til he scores
[quote author=The Skrtmonster link=topic=48146.msg1456403#msg1456403 date=1325711516]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48146.msg1456376#msg1456376 date=1325710639]
I don't think we'll sign Bent. Latest twatter rumours are all about Luuk de Jong
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His goals to games ratio in the dutch league is around 1 in 2. Less than both Kuyt and Suarez while they were there. Just saying 8)
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So was Van Persies. In fact nearly 1 in 4
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48146.msg1456376#msg1456376 date=1325710639]
I don't think we'll sign Bent. Latest twatter rumours are all about Luuk de Jong
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His goals to games ratio in the dutch league is around 1 in 2. Less than both Kuyt and Suarez while they were there. Just saying 8)
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So was Van Persies. In fact nearly 1 in 4
I think De Jong is more of a one of three behind the striker player rather than an out and out goalscorer.
From what I can see the only out and out strikers that we have been linked with is Barrios from Dortmund and Bent 🙁
Carroll it is then. :🙂
From what I can see the only out and out strikers that we have been linked with is Barrios from Dortmund and Bent 🙁
Carroll it is then. :🙂
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