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France V Rep of Ireland - part deux

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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991895#msg991895 date=1258588475]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991891#msg991891 date=1258588396]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991879#msg991879 date=1258587999]
What the fuck is a home nation ?
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if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
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Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
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Plus there are not really any Irish left in Ireland. They have all been replaced by Poles.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991895#msg991895 date=1258588475]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991891#msg991891 date=1258588396]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991879#msg991879 date=1258587999]
What the fuck is a home nation ?
[/quote]

if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
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Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
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Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=37257.msg991899#msg991899 date=1258588656]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991895#msg991895 date=1258588475]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991891#msg991891 date=1258588396]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991879#msg991879 date=1258587999]
What the fuck is a home nation ?
[/quote]

if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
[/quote]

Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
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Plus there are not really any Irish left in Ireland. They have all been replaced by Poles.
[/quote]Look at the mess this poles made of the tarmac.

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[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991902#msg991902 date=1258588699]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991895#msg991895 date=1258588475]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991891#msg991891 date=1258588396]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991879#msg991879 date=1258587999]
What the fuck is a home nation ?
[/quote]

if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
[/quote]

Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
[/quote]

Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
[/quote]I dont hate the Irish.
 
Henry's just said on TV that "the ball hit me".

No, it didn't. You delibertaly fucking handballed you lying fucking cunt. I hope someone, anyone, fucking Jermaine Pennant in La Liga for all I care - breaks your fucking two legs you piece of cunt.
 
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991895#msg991895 date=1258588475]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991891#msg991891 date=1258588396]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991879#msg991879 date=1258587999]
What the fuck is a home nation ?
[/quote]

if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
[/quote]

Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
[/quote]

Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
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We definitely hate you more.

Lots more.
 
Super performance and every player in a green shirt excelled themselves...and it was two extremely poor, unlucky goals to concede over the two legs...why didn't McShane avert the danger and just nod it clear in the first place?!? I think the referee should have gaged the simultaneous appeals by the Irish players as an indication that it was foul play...and even from the first game, they got away with a dodgy handball with Alou Diarra doing so in his own box....yet Keane, who also seemed to be having a little game of basketball himself tonight, was correctly pulled back every time.

In my opinion, the subs severely weakened us, but that may have just been the fatigue setting in after the immense effort displayed. Like many have mentioned already, we should've taken our glorious chances in normal time and even in the first leg with Lawrence, Whelan and O'Shea. The French goalie deserves alot of praise after producing magnificient saves, bravery and vast command of his area over the two matches...while Given was seldom troubled.

That French team will do well to get out of the group stages on that showing, or maybe they are truly dependent on Ribery returning to the side. I think I just witnessed one of the most atrocious midfield performances i've ever seen in top-class football in Lassana Diarra. And what was the craic with the clips of Benzema and Zidane every 5 minutes. The last time I felt like this was just after the Champions League Final in 2007...
 
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[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991902#msg991902 date=1258588699]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991895#msg991895 date=1258588475]
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991891#msg991891 date=1258588396]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=37257.msg991879#msg991879 date=1258587999]
What the fuck is a home nation ?
[/quote]

if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
[/quote]

Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
[/quote]

Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
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We definitely hate you more.

Lots more.
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Only SOME of you, in fairness.
 
[quote author=RealRedBlood link=topic=37257.msg991930#msg991930 date=1258590138]
lol @ the massive over-reaction.

Handball? yes. big deal? no
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Only the difference between getting to the world cup and being cheated out of it...

So, yeah - No big deal.
 
Ireland were never going through, this has been rigged since Sepp decided to revamp the play offs at the 11th hour to suit his mates. Like I said on another thread, he'll ensure that 1, maybe 2, African teams are in the last 8 in SA. Like he did with S Korea. Every WC is rigged.
 
[quote author=RealRedBlood link=topic=37257.msg991930#msg991930 date=1258590138]
lol @ the massive over-reaction.

Handball? yes. big deal? no
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Are you joking mate. I am not Irish, I am an Indian currently working in USA and I thought that was one of the most signicant instance of cheating in the last 10 years in football.

I am not criticizing Henry. Loads of players do it. Every weekend we here about some contentious decision in the premier league. But nothing is done to change that. Every other sport is experimenting and using technology to improve officiating. Time and time again in football there are enough instances to warrant usage of technology. However, FIFA/UEFA/FA seem hell bent on not using it.
 
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991876#msg991876 date=1258587970]

fuck off, just because I wasn't supporting the Irish.
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Not that I want any sympathy or anything just don't want to have to read that crap after we were obviously beaten by a gesture of overt cheating.
 
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[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg991876#msg991876 date=1258587970]

fuck off, just because I wasn't supporting the Irish.
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Not that I want any sympathy or anything just don't want to have to read that crap after we were obviously beaten by a gesture of overt cheating.


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mr moo s obviously a racist. His comments throughout the thread confirm that.
 
Unlucky N.Ireland too...despite a superb display in the Euro 2008 qualifiers, which included beating the future European Champions and Sweden, and of which should've increased these so-called seeding or ranking points. But with both teams in their group progressing to the World Cup, it shows what a difficult job it was.

Good luck Jan btw!!
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37257.msg991979#msg991979 date=1258592201]
"It just hit me"

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You utter cunt.
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Surely it just hit him twice
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37257.msg991979#msg991979 date=1258592201]
"It just hit me"

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You utter cunt.
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"... after I TWICE reached out to ensure that it did so."
 
From The Times November 19, 2009

Thierry Henry is an insincere cheat who has tarnished his reputation for good
Tony Cascarino, Commentary

Would you have owned up? In front of 80,000 fans and millions more on television, would you have confessed to handball and wiped out the goal that was sending your nation to the World Cup finals?

It’s a matter of conscience. Don’t think I’m ducking the question when I say that it would never have been an issue for me — because I wasn’t a cheat. In that split second last night when the ball dropped for Thierry Henry, tantalisingly close but just out of range of his feet, it would never have occurred to me to stick out my hand and guide it back into my control. I wasn’t that devious.

I’m no angel, but I know that I wouldn’t have done what he did. And if the roles had been reversed and Ireland had reached South Africa in such a dubious way, would I have been delighted at victory? Of course. Would I have felt it was tainted? Absolutely.

Henry can say what he likes. No doubt he will plead his innocence. But to me, that handball was pure, calculated cheating. Accidental? He handballed it to keep it in, then slightly knocked it again to get it nicely on his right foot.


It’s tarnished his reputation for good. Like Diego Maradona, when we reflect in years to come on the career of one of the finest strikers the game has known, we will have to put his handball against Ireland right up there with all the great goals he scored.

What a tragic missed opportunity. What a chance to be a hero Henry had — not to his home country but to the whole game. Cheating in all its guises is slowly killing football and if Henry had held his hands up again and admitted to the referee that he had handled the ball and the goal should not stand, he would have earned the admiration of the entire sporting world.

But he didn’t. He knew that he had done wrong, but he put self-interest ahead of justice. He could have been a beacon of integrity; instead he shined shame on himself and on football.

Cheating in football is commonplace now because the authorities cheat us all by their spineless failure to punish the perpetrators. Will Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, or Michel Platini, the Frenchman who is his Uefa counterpart, condemn Henry, or float the idea that the tie should be replayed? Of course not. They will turn a blind eye, and another piece of football’s credibility, another little part of its soul, will quietly die.

The injustice is made worse by the teams’ performances. Ireland were so much better than France. Raymond Domenech’s players have hearts the size of peas. But then, Henry is their captain. Handball aside, he showed no leadership qualities. He speaks so eloquently, but to me now he’ll always be insincere, a faker, someone who cares only about himself.

I’m gutted for Ireland and for football.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37257.msg991979#msg991979 date=1258592201]
"It just hit me"

P108_Handball_585x3_647342g.jpg


You utter cunt.
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He could do a job for the Kingdom.
 
[quote author=RealRedBlood link=topic=37257.msg991993#msg991993 date=1258592594]
tony cascarino, hahaha, he's a well known fool, who takes what he writes seriously?
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The irony is delicious.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=37257.msg992013#msg992013 date=1258593442]
RealRedBlood and Mr. Moo aren't not cunts.
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I fully agree
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37257.msg991991#msg991991 date=1258592475]
From The Times November 19, 2009

Thierry Henry is an insincere cheat who has tarnished his reputation for good
Tony Cascarino, Commentary

Would you have owned up? In front of 80,000 fans and millions more on television, would you have confessed to handball and wiped out the goal that was sending your nation to the World Cup finals?

It’s a matter of conscience. Don’t think I’m ducking the question when I say that it would never have been an issue for me — because I wasn’t a cheat. In that split second last night when the ball dropped for Thierry Henry, tantalisingly close but just out of range of his feet, it would never have occurred to me to stick out my hand and guide it back into my control. I wasn’t that devious.

I’m no angel, but I know that I wouldn’t have done what he did. And if the roles had been reversed and Ireland had reached South Africa in such a dubious way, would I have been delighted at victory? Of course. Would I have felt it was tainted? Absolutely.

Henry can say what he likes. No doubt he will plead his innocence. But to me, that handball was pure, calculated cheating. Accidental? He handballed it to keep it in, then slightly knocked it again to get it nicely on his right foot.


It’s tarnished his reputation for good. Like Diego Maradona, when we reflect in years to come on the career of one of the finest strikers the game has known, we will have to put his handball against Ireland right up there with all the great goals he scored.

What a tragic missed opportunity. What a chance to be a hero Henry had — not to his home country but to the whole game. Cheating in all its guises is slowly killing football and if Henry had held his hands up again and admitted to the referee that he had handled the ball and the goal should not stand, he would have earned the admiration of the entire sporting world.

But he didn’t. He knew that he had done wrong, but he put self-interest ahead of justice. He could have been a beacon of integrity; instead he shined shame on himself and on football.

Cheating in football is commonplace now because the authorities cheat us all by their spineless failure to punish the perpetrators. Will Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, or Michel Platini, the Frenchman who is his Uefa counterpart, condemn Henry, or float the idea that the tie should be replayed? Of course not. They will turn a blind eye, and another piece of football’s credibility, another little part of its soul, will quietly die.

The injustice is made worse by the teams’ performances. Ireland were so much better than France. Raymond Domenech’s players have hearts the size of peas. But then, Henry is their captain. Handball aside, he showed no leadership qualities. He speaks so eloquently, but to me now he’ll always be insincere, a faker, someone who cares only about himself.

I’m gutted for Ireland and for football.
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Its easy to say, but put in this situation you are playing for your country. Your hopes of getting to the World Cup Finals are up in the air. You have the opportunity to gain a goal unfairly. Do you take that opportunity? I know we don't really have an affinty with the national side her in Liverpool.

But if you had the chance to score in extra time champions leauge final against united to take lead but he you to cheat. Would you do it?
 
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