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France V Rep of Ireland - part deux

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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=37257.msg992024#msg992024 date=1258594523]
The disappointment will subside over time, the anger over what Henry did might take a touch longer. I've had enough of this "he did what he did to get his side to South-Africa" shite. He, and all footballers for that matter, aren't fucking robots. They're not fucking well programmed to cheat, and defy all known morals. He made a conscious decision to cheat and handle that ball. Fair enough, others have done it in the past and will continue to get away with it in the future. To fucking run away celebrating, to smile like that after the final whistle, and to lie about not meaning to intentionally handle it fucking hurts though. You know you're a cheat Henry. There's a difference between doing what's required to get your team through, and then not having the fucking balls to fucking own up to it afterwards.

Henry, for the rest of my life, I'll look upon you as a cheating, lying cunt. It'll mean little to him, but he's lost the respect of me and many many others tonight. It's not just Irish fans, but every right-minded football fan should be appalled by that. At least Fowler had the good grace to admit he dived.

The performances of Andrews, Whelan, St. Ledger, Liam fucking Lawrence, Doyle, and the quite fantastic Duff merited so much more.

Yes, we should have buried them, yes we had chances, and yes the game shouldn't have gone to extra time. But there is solace to be taken in the fact that it took two cuntish goals to beat us, because over 210 minutes, the cream of French Football couldn't create one chance against us. There is also solace to be taken in the pride of supporting Ireland again. For there's been fuck all of it to shout about for a long long time. That performance tonight has reawoken the pride, satisfaction, poy and pain that your Country could and should give you in me. I'd forgotten it even existed to be honest. Years of hurt, shit, and fucking rubbish offered up by a collection of under-achievers. We've lost tonight, but we've gained so so much. If anything, we've restored a tiny bit of pride to Irish football.

I know the joy the World Cup would have brought to me and many others, but I take immense satisfaction in being able to look at that image of Duff above and still be immensely proud. I doubt any French supporter could look at the picture of Henry and feel the same way.
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Superb post Ryan.

Totally devastating way to lose especially having played so well. Henry can go fuck himself. The only plus is that there are real signs of progress now under Trap and I know he's not a young man but hopefully he will stay around long enough for the Euro's and one more tilt at the World Cup.
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Told you it would end in heroic failure.
 
keane is an absolute ARSE, had torres been placed through on goal one one one with the keeper with the world cup place as a prize you can bet your bottom dollar he wouldn't have taken an extra touch. you can forgive duff (a midfielder who isn't prolific) but keane is a striker and 100% an irish goal that late in the game would have killed the tie. don't blame henry the game should have been over before he (henry) decided to take the game into his own hands (see what I did there ;D )
 
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What the fuck is a home nation ?
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if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
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Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
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Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
[/quote]I dont hate the Irish.
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I don't hate the English..
 
Keane has gone on record and said fifa must be delighted the french are through to the wc (in response to fifa changing the draw process and seeding teams). Which i believe is a joke and incredibly inappropriate for fifa to change their minds at the last minute (but this doesn't surprise me); however had keane (and duff) been more clinical in front of goal, they would be the ones delighted this morning and not fifa. the goal was
 
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What the fuck is a home nation ?
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if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
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Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
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Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
[/quote]I dont hate the Irish.
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I don't hate the English..
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When I talk about hate, i'm not talking about a extreme and bitter hatred for each other, more like a dislike for each other. I know quite a few irish people, and they claim to hate/dislike the english, yet we still all get along, and likewise the other way. There is a lot of piss taking between the english and irish etc.....

The thing that i don't get is that, yes I was supporting the french last night, but i'm pretty sure the irish contingent on her would be too had the french been playing england.
 
The thing that i don't get is that, yes I was supporting the french last night, but i'm pretty sure the irish contingent on her would be too had the french been playing england.

Of course they would. And the site would have been full of laughter and gloating at England's expense after the handball, rather than the hand-wringing, teary-eyed spleen-venting that we have witnessed.

So while I was disappointed with France winning, reading some of the threads has been pretty amusing, to be sure.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37257.msg992122#msg992122 date=1258622039]
The thing that i don't get is that, yes I was supporting the french last night, but i'm pretty sure the irish contingent on her would be too had the french been playing england.

Of course they would. And the site would have been full of laughter and gloating at England's expense after the handball, rather than the hand-wringing, teary-eyed spleen-venting that we have witnessed.

So while I was disappointed with France winning, reading some of the threads has been pretty amusing, to be sure.
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Exactly.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37257.msg992122#msg992122 date=1258622039]
Of course they would. And the site would have been full of laughter and gloating at England's expense after the handball, rather than the hand-wringing, teary-eyed spleen-venting that we have witnessed.
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That is true.
 
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What the fuck is a home nation ?
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if you read carefully, I said home nations. Which when I last checked meant Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales. Ive only included Rep of Ireland, as they well supported by people within the British Isles.
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Don't include us. We're fine on our own.
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Haha, like that. See that just points out the Irish hate the English as much as we hate the Irish.
[/quote]I dont hate the Irish.
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I don't hate the English..
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When I talk about hate, i'm not talking about a extreme and bitter hatred for each other, more like a dislike for each other. I know quite a few irish people, and they claim to hate/dislike the english, yet we still all get along, and likewise the other way. There is a lot of piss taking between the english and irish etc.....

The thing that i don't get is that, yes I was supporting the french last night, but i'm pretty sure the irish contingent on her would be too had the french been playing england.
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I wouldn't really have given a fuck who won if it was France vs England and I certainly wouldn't have been coming on here giving it loads had England lost.
 
It's natural for the Irish, Scots and Welsh to take pleasure at England's demise as England are the dominant country in the region. The same thing happens with the Germans, the Swiss and Austrians take great pleasure in German defeats and this happens in many other regions. There is little animosity in this "hatred" it's just the joy of seeing the "big cheese" get a bloody nose.

I'm odd by Irish standards because England are my 2nd team because 3 of my Grandparents were English and I had a reasonably anglicised upbringing. However this leaves me in a great position because I can support England in the World Cup but still indulge in a bit of schadenfreude when they lose.

The only time I become rabidly anti-English is when we play them.
 
I haven't been on here 'giving it loads'. I've merely posted a few comments during and after the game as to why I was supporting the French, but as people don't like it, I get called 'cunt' and 'racist'. Laughable really.
 
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The thing that i don't get is that, yes I was supporting the french last night, but i'm pretty sure the irish contingent on her would be too had the french been playing england.

Of course they would. And the site would have been full of laughter and gloating at England's expense after the handball, rather than the hand-wringing, teary-eyed spleen-venting that we have witnessed.

So while I was disappointed with France winning, reading some of the threads has been pretty amusing, to be sure.
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[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=37257.msg992134#msg992134 date=1258623150]
I haven't been on here 'giving it loads'. I've merely posted a few comments during and after the game as to why I was supporting the French, but as people don't like it, I get called 'cunt' and 'racist'. Laughable really.
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On a number of occasions in this thread you have stated that you dont like the Irish. That in my view makes you a racist. Personally I couldnt give a flying fuck about you or your views. Im just pointing out what you are. Of course like most racists you either dont think you are one or deny that you are one.
 
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I haven't been on here 'giving it loads'. I've merely posted a few comments during and after the game as to why I was supporting the French, but as people don't like it, I get called 'cunt' and 'racist'. Laughable really.
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On a number of occasions in this thread you have stated that you dont like the Irish. That in my view makes you a racist. Personally I couldnt give a flying fuck about you or your views. Im just pointing out what you are. Of course like most racists you either dont think you are one or deny that you are one.
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But the Irish aren't a race.
He maybe being anti-Irish, but racist? No.
 
Anyway. Back to the thread.

Henry has admitted he did handle the ball. OK fair enough I thought until he followed it up with an "I didn't do it on purpose" loads of bollocks. Tsk.
 
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The thing that i don't get is that, yes I was supporting the french last night, but i'm pretty sure the irish contingent on her would be too had the french been playing england.

Of course they would. And the site would have been full of laughter and gloating at England's expense after the handball, rather than the hand-wringing, teary-eyed spleen-venting that we have witnessed.

So while I was disappointed with France winning, reading some of the threads has been pretty amusing, to be sure.
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That's true enough. The Celts love it when the Anglo Saxons fail and take great glee in it.
 
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I haven't been on here 'giving it loads'. I've merely posted a few comments during and after the game as to why I was supporting the French, but as people don't like it, I get called 'cunt' and 'racist'. Laughable really.
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On a number of occasions in this thread you have stated that you dont like the Irish. That in my view makes you a racist. Personally I couldnt give a flying fuck about you or your views. Im just pointing out what you are. Of course like most racists you either dont think you are one or deny that you are one.
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But the Irish aren't a race.
He maybe being anti-Irish, but racist? No.
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wtf?
 
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I haven't been on here 'giving it loads'. I've merely posted a few comments during and after the game as to why I was supporting the French, but as people don't like it, I get called 'cunt' and 'racist'. Laughable really.
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On a number of occasions in this thread you have stated that you dont like the Irish. That in my view makes you a racist. Personally I couldnt give a flying fuck about you or your views. Im just pointing out what you are. Of course like most racists you either dont think you are one or deny that you are one.
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But the Irish aren't a race.
He maybe being anti-Irish, but racist? No.
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wtf?
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The Irish are part of the Celtic race but not a race on their own.
 
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I haven't been on here 'giving it loads'. I've merely posted a few comments during and after the game as to why I was supporting the French, but as people don't like it, I get called 'cunt' and 'racist'. Laughable really.
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On a number of occasions in this thread you have stated that you dont like the Irish. That in my view makes you a racist. Personally I couldnt give a flying fuck about you or your views. Im just pointing out what you are. Of course like most racists you either dont think you are one or deny that you are one.
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So merely because I state I hate/dislike the Irish (as I've explained not in a extreme hatred form if you actually read my earlier posts), constitutes me being labelled a racist in your eyes? You must obviously do give a 'flying fuck' about my views, as you have taken the time and effort to conjure up a load of bollocks.
 
I think we need to accept that some of the English lads may be on the wind up to provoke reaction in this thread. We all know this is a role reversal as most England match threads involve plenty of goading.
Can we keep it reasonably civil please lads. I think to throw around allegations of racism are OTT from what is posted above. If any racist comments are posted it will be dealt with accordingly.
 
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[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=37257.msg992219#msg992219 date=1258628352]
I think we need to accept that some of the English lads may be on the wind up to provoke reaction in this thread. We all know this is a role reversal as most England match threads involve plenty of goading.
Can we keep it reasonably civil please lads. I think to throw around allegations of racism are OTT from what is posted above. If any racist comments are posted it will be dealt with accordingly.
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Sorry Nessie Im aware of what banter is, and actually enjoy it. All Im saying is that if you openly admit to not liking or hating a race or nationality, extremely or otherwise, then in my belief you are a racist. Like I said earlier some racists dont actually believe that they are racist.

Thats my final word on it
 
Exactly Nessie some of the reactions are way over the top, sometimes decisions go your way sometimes they don't its all part and parcel of the game. There was still no guarantee we'd go and win the game.

There is no need to bring race into it, Brendan hit the nail on the head if it was the other way round and it involved the english a lot of us Irish would be loving it likewise if it happened to the mancs the whole forum would be loving it.
 
there is a funny picture of henry with the hands photoshopped out with the caption;

HANDS,

because some people don't deserve them.
 
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there is a funny picture of henry with the hands photoshopped out with the caption;

HANDS,

because some people don't deserve them.
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I don't get it.
 
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I think we need to accept that some of the English lads may be on the wind up to provoke reaction in this thread. We all know this is a role reversal as most England match threads involve plenty of goading.
Can we keep it reasonably civil please lads. I think to throw around allegations of racism are OTT from what is posted above. If any racist comments are posted it will be dealt with accordingly.
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Sorry Nessie Im aware of what banter is, and actually enjoy it. All Im saying is that if you openly admit to not liking or hating a race or nationality, extremely or otherwise, then in my belief you are a racist. Like I said earlier some racists dont actually believe that they are racist.

Thats my final word on it
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Believe you me i'm not a racist and think your view is absurd, but hey, everyone is entitled to their (albeit at times very poor and not so intelligent) opinion.
 
[quote author=H link=topic=37257.msg991819#msg991819 date=1258583928]
I guess there'll be no more Maradona comments from the Micks.

In fairness though the Paddies deserve a big hand for that performance.
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I agree with the view that most of this thread has been just banter which is fair enough.

But I do have a problem with the use of that and its not the first time that the poster has shown his true colours.
 
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