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Everton fans want Rafa

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What a world we live in united and Spurs fans want Rodgers and everton want benitz
 
Agent Rafa. Could work, I am sick of those guys playing the 2 matches of their lives every season against us for their DVD.
 
I don't want them relegated

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I want them relegated. If only for one season.

As for Benitez, I pointed out this growing sentiment for him on Everton fan sites recently.

The rabid anti-Kopite hatred would make that a very risky move, we saw what happened when Benitez went to Chelsea - he won a trophy and it still wasn't enough for their cunt fan base. And a manager so embedded in Liverpool history taking over Everton (or United, for that matter)? It would be unprecedented.

That type of managerial switch is very rare, on a smaller scale there's been Redknapp and Portsmouth/ Southampton and then Graham at Spurs/ Arsenal, but it just never works out: as soon as things go badly, they just get set upon by the crowd for previous allegiances.

Being objective - as entirely pointless as that is in the context of football - it makes sense; he's a far better manager than anyone they've had for....well, decades, and they are also a club with a strong support, money to spend and ambitious owners, plus maybe a new stadium. Plus anywhere is better than fucking China, who gives a shit about football there?

And we all know where his family live, still.
 
If one simply sat down and made an attempt at an objective list of pros and cons then yes, there'd be quite a bit to commend the move. What's more, Rafa's the kind of person whom one might expect to go about making a big decision in such a way.

Having said that, I don't believe he'll go there in a thousand years. For all his cold, hard logic Rafa also has a highly emotional side - witness for example his tears at the Hillsborough commemoration - and my bet is he remains too attached to LFC to contemplate this.
 
If one simply sat down and made an attempt at an objective list of pros and cons then yes, there'd be quite a bit to commend the move. What's more, Rafa's the kind of person whom one might expect to go about making a big decision in such a way.

Having said that, I don't believe he'll go there in a thousand years. For all his cold, hard logic Rafa also has a highly emotional side - witness for example his tears at the Hillsborough commemoration - and my bet is he remains too attached to LFC to contemplate this.

He managed Chelsea. Not the same at all, but Benitez is an opportunist, as well as a romantic. It would be surprising, but not unbelievable
 
It would be quite sentimental to have managed both clubs in Liverpool. A real connection to the city. I wouldn't really mind as long as they stay kind of shit and we win the league.
 
It would be quite sentimental to have managed both clubs in Liverpool. A real connection to the city. I wouldn't really mind as long as they stay kind of shit and we win the league.
They won't with Rafa in charge.
I got a lot of flack here for supporting Rafa when he took the Chelsea job. Never seen them as a historical rival. Everton however, is where I draw the line.
 
It would be quite sentimental to have managed both clubs in Liverpool. A real connection to the city. I wouldn't really mind as long as they stay kind of shit and we win the league.

He took a team of basically championship players at Newcastle & had them over performing without having funds at all.

Everton has spent a huge amount on players, way more than us & seemingly have an owner rich enough to continue that trend.

With a manager like Rafa who would get their (extremely good it must be said) youth setup lined up with the first team, buying trends & ideals consistent from the top down to bottom, & quality players in (he uses some of his own scouts as we benefited from, mostly!), they could become a real force in the league.

Rafa is like Wenger in many ways, give him enough latitude & he improves more than just the first team & tactics, plus he can drill any group of players to better than the sum of their parts through organisation alone, then further improve results with clever tactics.

He's not the messiah (I should know, I've followed a few), but he's a very good manager.
 
Tbh, Everton's idiotic decision to give this Brands fella so much power (a seat on the board, for an ex scout?!) is what would put Rafa off, not the fact it's Everton, imo, cos he thinks analytically, not emotionally, but has worked under a man like that before under Hicks & Gillett & will not want to do that again.
 
Tbh, Everton's idiotic decision to give this Brands fella so much power (a seat on the board, for an ex scout?!) is what would put Rafa off, not the fact it's Everton, imo, cos he thinks analytically, not emotionally, but has worked under a man like that before under Hicks & Gillett & will not want to do that again.

I think it would put Brands off appointing him, for the same reasons. He'd be squarely in Benitez's crosshairs within about 10 seconds.
 
IF rafa went to everton, which offered he I think he would probably take, would he still get the love in he gets from our fans. Or would it be an Michael Owen mark 2
 
IF rafa went to everton, which offered he I think he would probably take, would he still get the love in he gets from our fans. Or would it be an Michael Owen mark 2

Well, Owen was never really loved by many to begin with, even if Benitez also splits some fans.....but if he managed Everton of course it would have some impact on our affection for him, but it's hard to speak for everyone. Some don't like him at all now!
 
I think it would put Brands off appointing him, for the same reasons. He'd be squarely in Benitez's crosshairs within about 10 seconds.
Yep. Which is boss for us, cos I'm convinced he'd take the job otherwise, & for the myriad of reasons I outlined, I think he's be relatively successful. Long term it'd be a poisoned chalice of course, both because of his history here & cos the bitters are too stupid to realise that playing very well organised defensive counter attacking football isn't 'boring', but necessary to create a platform for success.

They got rid of Moyes despite his clear overachieving there partly because the fans eventually took what he did for granted & assumed they could better those results whilst playing a more attractive brand of football.

It's a self perpuating cycle really, the longer they go without success, the more quickly they want it, the less patience they will have & they give less & less time to each manager to achieve it, when in reality, they need the opposite.

They need to use us as a blueprint tbh, buy players that can be improved to become top class, which takes organisation & time. We became what we are by buying players good enough to eventually play for Barca, they're trying to do the same, but by buying players who aren't good enough for Barca, from Barca, at inflated prices.
 
Well, Owen was never really loved by many to begin with, even if Benitez also splits some fans.....but if he managed Everton of course it would have some impact on our affection for him, but it's hard to speak for everyone. Some don't like him at all now!

His time at Chelsea has been whitewashed from many peoples memory.
 
They should just settle for Moyes. He belongs at that club.
Or give Duncan Ferguson the job.
 
I wonder how well Moyes would do going back there. Howard Kendall went back not once but twice and it didn't work out either time. At least if Ferguson got the gig no opposition manager would ever kick up a fuss in the technical area. Considering where they find themselves now, they might even settle for that.
 
I wonder how well Moyes would do going back there. Howard Kendall went back not once but twice and it didn't work out either time. At least if Ferguson got the gig no opposition manager would ever kick up a fuss in the technical area. Considering where they find themselves now, they might even settle for that.

I don't think they have a very high opinion of Big Dunc's coaching or managerial qualities, but do concede that he is good at putting the cones out
 
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