Euro 2012
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Carrick holds possession better than any English midfielder by fucking miles.
The fact Scott fucking Parker is in the side ahead of him cos he plays for a London side & runs around a lot tells you everything that is wrong with perception of football in this country.
The fact Scott fucking Parker is in the side ahead of him cos he plays for a London side & runs around a lot tells you everything that is wrong with perception of football in this country.
Yup, he reatins possession well.
Doesn't really win it back though does he?
England don't have the players to play the type of football carrick thrives in.
Yep, joke of a decision. International football is about keep ball and that Carrick's strength. He's just off the back of a very good season too.
England have never been able to retain possession, one player will not change that. Play to your strengths, high tempo and physical strength with the odd set piece thrown in. Before we change the way the national team plays, we should change the philosophy of the kids who will be the next generation of internationals. Carrick would have been a poor selection as he is weaker than most physically, offers little protection and slows play down. The rest of the squad are not on his wavelength to try to actually play possession football, so pick the players that fit the system and style.
Good post. Don't think I necessarily agree but it does make some sense.
That said, the fa have just announced that the young sides will be playing 7 a side games & taught close possession football all the way through, yet roy Hodgson is playing a rigid 4-4-2. Doesn't seem to fit.
TBF to the face-rubbing headbanger, he has to make the best of what we have at the moment. It'll take years for the effects of the new reforms to work their way through to the national side.
England's squad numbers for Euro 2012 confirmed:
1 Joe Hart, 2 Glen Johnson, 3 Ashley Cole, 4 Steven Gerrard, 5 Gary Cahill, 6 John Terry, 7 Theo Walcott, 8 Frank Lampard, 9 Andy Carroll, 10 Wayne Rooney, 11 Ashley Young, 12 Leighton Baines, 13 Robert Green, 14 Phil Jones, 15 Joleon Lescott, 16 James Milner, 17 Sscott Parker, 18 Phil Jagielka, 19 Stewart Downing, 20 Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, 21 Jermain Defoe, 22 Danny Welbeck, 23 Jack Butland.
1 Joe Hart, 2 Glen Johnson, 3 Ashley Cole, 4 Steven Gerrard, 5 Gary Cahill, 6 John Terry, 7 Theo Walcott, 8 Frank Lampard, 9 Andy Carroll, 10 Wayne Rooney, 11 Ashley Young, 12 Leighton Baines, 13 Robert Green, 14 Phil Jones, 15 Joleon Lescott, 16 James Milner, 17 Sscott Parker, 18 Phil Jagielka, 19 Stewart Downing, 20 Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, 21 Jermain Defoe, 22 Danny Welbeck, 23 Jack Butland.
Robert Green with no.13. Hmm.
I heard Trevor Brooking say the other day that he won't mind so much if the team drops out early so long as they play attractive football! Well good luck with that, Brookley! What a dire squad.
Not so much tempting fate, more handing it one huge incentive.
Remind me who Wales are playing, boyo?
All of our prime athletes choose to play rugby mate, so it's to be expected that we're shite at football.
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Thomas Sørensen out, Kasper Schmeichel in.
Sad for the experienced Sørensen but to be honest I don't think he's out best goalie anymore.
Sad for the experienced Sørensen but to be honest I don't think he's out best goalie anymore.
Dear God no! Paul Green and now McShane..... Should've been replaced with Coleman and either Wes Hoolahan, Sean Murray or Stephen Quinn.
Hopefully they'll limit him to putting the cones out, and he'll probably get that wrong.
French squad:
Goalkeepers: Cedric Carrasso (Bordeaux), Hugo Lloris (Lyon), Steve Mandanda (Marseille)
Defenders: Gael Clichy (Manchester City/ENG), Mathieu Debuchy (Lille), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ENG), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal/ENG), Philippe Mexes (AC Milan/ITA), Adil Rami (Valencia/ESP), Anthony Reveillere (Lyon)
Midfielders: Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle United/ENG), Alou Diarra (Marseille), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ENG), Marvin Martin (Sochaux), Blaise Matuidi (Paris Saint-Germain), Yann M'vila (Rennes), Samir Nasri (Manchester City/ENG)
Forwards: Hatem Ben Arfa (Newcastle United/ENG), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid/ESP), Olivier Giroud (Montpellier), Jeremy Menez (Paris Saint-Germain), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/GER), Mathieu Valbuena (Marseille)
Goalkeepers: Cedric Carrasso (Bordeaux), Hugo Lloris (Lyon), Steve Mandanda (Marseille)
Defenders: Gael Clichy (Manchester City/ENG), Mathieu Debuchy (Lille), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ENG), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal/ENG), Philippe Mexes (AC Milan/ITA), Adil Rami (Valencia/ESP), Anthony Reveillere (Lyon)
Midfielders: Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle United/ENG), Alou Diarra (Marseille), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ENG), Marvin Martin (Sochaux), Blaise Matuidi (Paris Saint-Germain), Yann M'vila (Rennes), Samir Nasri (Manchester City/ENG)
Forwards: Hatem Ben Arfa (Newcastle United/ENG), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid/ESP), Olivier Giroud (Montpellier), Jeremy Menez (Paris Saint-Germain), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/GER), Mathieu Valbuena (Marseille)
The Irish squad looks to be the weakest in the competition and there are some very talented players who should be invoved but Trapp didn't pick them. He puts a lot of store in loyalty and had stayed pretty-much faithful to the same group of players over the last 4 years. You can't knock his results as we qualified for the final stages but I do think that if the likes of Murray, Pilkington, Hoolahan, Coleman, McCarthy etc had been included we'd have a better chance of progressing.
I thought he was one of the cones
Let's hope his loyalty is rewarded and also lets hope McGeady can play like he did on Saturday and likewise, McClean can perform like he did during the second half of the season for the tournament. I would like to see Long starting but Trapattoni likes the target man and little man combination up front and Keane seems to be his preferred choice as the little man.
I agree with a lot of that Nessie but - You don't have a "system and style" suited to win this thing though. Actually, scrap that - you don't have a system or style suited to even come close to winning it.
Ross has a point, less Gerrard's are what's required.
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