England vs Italy and other quarter-finals

[King Binny]

Dietmar Hamann is a man in the know when it comes to German football. He made 59 appearances for his country in an eight-year international career that saw him become a household name in England where he played for Newcastle, Liverpool, Bolton, Manchester City and Milton Keynes Dons.

Before his move to the Premier League, Hamann had won two Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich and was already considered one of the best central midfielders coming out of Germany.

His time with Germany was a mixed one as the side struggled at both Euro 2000 and 2004. This sparked a transformation in the way youth football was approached and the benefits are clear for all to see.

Here, Hamann tells us about the new attacking Germany which is excelling under the stewardship of Joachim Loew.

You represented Germany at both Euro 2000 and Euro 2004 as a player, what was it like taking part in such huge tournaments?

It is a great honour to play for your country in a major tournament, I was lucky to qualify for both tournaments and representing your country is obviously what playing football is all about. A lot of people have said that the Champions League is more important than the Euros or the World Cup but I don’t agree with that, I believe it is still the ultimate honour to represent your country at major tournaments. Unfortunately we weren’t very successful at the two Euros for different reasons but all the build up and to actually go there is something that I will not forget and neither will all those who took part.

Obviously Germany were triumphant at Euro 96’ and you have already touched on your struggle during 2000 and 2004, what made that such a transitional time for your national side?

When we went to the World Cup in 1998 I was the second youngest player at 24, we didn’t really have any young players coming through and so when we went to Euro 2000 we didn’t really have a good team. We drew the first game to Romania and lost to England so we still had a chance if we would have beaten Portugal but we didn’t. However I think maybe this was something that had to happen for people to realise something had to change. These changes were made especially when Rudi Völler took over as he brought in a few younger players who were very successful during the 2002 World Cup. Then in 2004, I don’t want to say we were unlucky because we played three games and we had our chance to go through but for one reason or another it didn’t work out and we didn’t get into the second faze of the tournament. Nevertheless I believe 2000 was the critical tournament because after that people realised if you didn’t have the right structures in place it is very hard to compete over a long period of time.

As you just said, 2004 was a turning point as Jürgen Klinsmann, Joachim Löw and Oliver Bierhoff were all recruited as changes swept the federation. What steps did German football take to overhaul the national game at that point?

I think they changed a lot with the youth development; they put centres of excellence in place where they observed the best players from every region and I believe it was a highly successful structure to have. As a result we produced a host of younger players over the coming years that are still playing today and are the spine of the team. I think this was definitely a change for the better which put German football back on the map.

Is there any concern that the squad is still a little bit inexperienced despite having performed well in the World Cup in South Africa?

Yes, I think so. There are only one or two players in the squad that are over 30 years old and they are forwards, such as Miroslav Klose and you need that mix in a team. Having said that a lot of players come from Bayern Munich and they’ve played in Champions League final, World Cup Semi final an European Championship finals so they are very experienced. Nevertheless you do wonder if it comes to the semi final/final whether they have enough experienced players to change the result from two and four years ago. There have been a few near misses in recent tournaments and psychologically that can play on your mind.

 

[King Binny]

Rafa:

I said from the start that I didn't understand all the pessimism about England, because this squad, which is the most expensive one at the championships, should consider the semi-finals a minimum requirement. But the group stage opponents were one thing; Italy and that midfield they possess is something totally different.

It would be some result for England to beat their opponents tomorrow evening and while everyone has been talking about Andrea Pirlo, you should look out for Thiago Motta. Believe me, Motta can play.

There will probably be four Italians in the midfield, maybe operating in a diamond, against England in Kiev. Pirlo, Motta and Claudio Marchisio may be there and Daniele De Rossi is a player Cesare Prandelli will ideally want amongst them. Di Rossi has been used in the middle of a three at the back in this tournament, so we will see if he is needed there again. There is a way of dealing with this little group of four – but first let me talk about Motta. He played for me, when I was managing Internazionale, and against me, in Barcelona's team versus our Liverpool side in the game we won 2-1 in the Nou Camp on the way to the 2007 Champions League final. I'll never forget how Motta was substituted before an hour of that game had passed in Catalonia, because things were not so difficult for my own team in midfield after he had left the field.

Motta is left-footed, good in the air, not fast, but he passes the ball so very well. His left foot is really very, very good. I knew him from Barcelona when he was young, breaking into the team at the time when I was managing Valencia, and though he was born in Brazil he fitted in very well with the other players. You want to hear Pepe Reina talking about his time at the Barcelona academy, working with Motta, Andres Iniesta, Xavi and Mikel Arteta! When I first arrived at Inter, Motta was injured, but when he came back he did really well for us. He was a quality player in our midfield –our Pirlo, if you like.

Marchisio, the Juventus player, is very good at getting into the box and timing his runs and I must not overlook Pirlo himself, of course; he has all the top qualities and is able to pass the ball, move it and go. He can dictate the tempo of the game. The important point for England is that if Italy do play this diamond, then you are talking about four players who can all play football. The top of a diamond will be close to Steven Gerrard and Scott Parker, who will have a very big night. One option for England will be to ask their second striker – Wayne Rooney – to play a defensive role by helping the others to deal with the four (see graphic below). We know that Rooney likes to attack, but Roy Hodgson may ask him to show defensive discipline. It would be a weakness for England if Rooney dropped into the midfield to deal with the Italian threat but then, after a while, went forward again.

This option would be a 4-4-1-1 system, not a 4-4-2; it will be challenging for England, however they line up. They will need to do a lot of work.

I don't really see defence as a weak point with Italy, either. The wing backs have energy. I like Andrea Barzagli, who has experience, and I don't need to say much about Gianluigi Buffon's strength.

There are some things we may have to wait until Sunday to discover about Italy, such as whether Prandelli will go with three at the back again – as he did at the start of the tournament – or with four, like he did against Ireland. England's strategy is one we are now familiar with: two lines of four, looking to regain possession a nd then counter very fast. Gerrard is not only good with the crosses which have brought England three goals already; he is the only England player who can play the long balls to perfection. One of the memories I will keep from the game with Ukraine is how Steven was receiving the ball and finding Ashley Young so well. He is the one who can dictate the tempo and he is the one the English nation should be talking about when this tournament is over.

For England, the important thing is to strike a balance: the balance between defending well and getting people into the middle, as we have talked about, but also attacking. You want to see the team saying, "We are England, we will play our game" and having the belief. But if there is too much of that expression then it can be good for Italy, who will get the chance to capitalise.

Some people were surprised that Rooney played nearly 90 minutes in Donetsk but Hodgson did well to keep him on the field so long. In the first half against Ukraine, Rooney did not do really, really well but that goal gave him confidence. You need match fitness, competitive games. He needed every one of those 87 minutes.

Of course, people will be talking about Mario Balotelli and he was another player who was at Inter when I arrived there. We were already preparing to sell him to Manchester City at the time so he was not part of the plans.

We were trying to protect him for that transfer. But in the training sessions you could see the talent. Finding space, scoring goals, good in the air: these were the qualities I saw in him. He is a very special talent who – how can I put it? – needs a very special understanding from a manager. I think he will be fine tomorrow. Everyone in the Italy set-up will be talking about the risks that come for him and everybody will be looking out for him, to make sure he does not do something crazy on the pitch. Italy will be managing the situation, whether he starts the game or comes on from the bench.

England have managed to keep the expectations low and it is Spain who are now facing the worst of them.

Everybody is now expecting them to win by three or four goals and that is a big mistake.

Whoever Spain play now, that opposition has prepared a specific tactical plan to manage against them and perhaps the people who say Spain are not so good don't realise that.

Vicente del Bosque has one or two different options now. I have been in contact with Fernando Torres and he is feeling strong.

If teams play deep he will not have space. If they allow him the ball he will score.

He is training very well. You see in the little things – the way he drifts into small pockets of space and creates room to work in – that he is strong in his mind and is using the intelligence which is the quality which separates the very good players from the good ones.

I have a feeling we will continue to talk a lot about Fernando before this tournament is over.

Germany, meanwhile, are close to Spain's level and doing well but if Spain play with intensity, they remain my favourites. For England, the key is whether they can find the right balance between defence and attack, because at this stage of the tournament anything can happen.

 

[Hyena]

Quotes like that make me wonder whether Torres would still be here if Rafa hadn't left.... (ok off topic!)

 

[Judge Jules]

That was then, this is now. Torres looked pretty pissed off when Rafa subbed him that time when his and Stevie's expressions were captured on video. If that was anything to go by, things had gone a bit stale between the two of them.

 

[King Binny]

Spain vs France is Xabi Alonso's 100 official game for Spain

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Italy
Spain
Germany
Portugal

Where's me i-pod?

 

[Fabio]

Where's me i-pod?

Ooo well aren't you a champ

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Don't be getting all mardy cos your team just got knocked out.

 

[Fabio]

I'm the windever who don't give a shit

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Oh yeah. Good lad.