Not sure how you could classify Rafa as weak-minded. Or Souness for that matter. But we have been a shambling wreck for the most part.
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Not sure how you could classify Rafa as weak-minded. Or Souness for that matter. But we have been a shambling wreck for the most part.
If that's the case then fine. We nearly did a Leeds. Thanks to them we didn't. If they leave us debt-free and with a new stand AND they sell us to someone with a load of dosh then great.
He's only been to 10 games in five years. Not very likely to up sticks for six months of living in the Wirral I would suggest.
Agreed, & I've no issue with it cos I remember all too clearly how close we came to not existing in our current form as a football club.
It's all complete supposition though, & I doubt anyone but them knows for sure.
They may well have used that logic to help subvert the risk that football just want for them, & be willing to give it a few years to see if their way can get some form of success.
With all the money sloshing around in the game nowadays, making money will almost certainly be the prime motivation for owners of top clubs (and, world-weariness about our current performance aside, worldwide we're in or around the top ten clubs financially), so TBH I'm no more concerned by that aspect of FSG's tenure than I would be if some other owner or group of owners were in charge.
Nor do I agree that their apparent hands-off strategy suggests short-termism. If anything it suggests the opposite to me, because if they were looking to cut and run I'd have expected them to be a lot more activist in their approach in order to maximise their return as quickly as poss. So does the emphasis their general approach puts on youth, both on the field and in the manager's office. The $64 mill.question is whether that approach is the right one.
Nor do I agree that their apparent hands-off strategy suggests short-termism. If anything it suggests the opposite to me, because if they were looking to cut and run I'd have expected them to be a lot more activist in their approach in order to maximise their return as quickly as poss. So does the emphasis their general approach puts on youth, both on the field and in the manager's office. The $64 mill.question is whether that approach is the right one.
We just need the best coaches we can get. I may be doing Pascoe and Mike Marsh a disservice, but I haven't heard anything positive about those two from any players. Coaches don't always get commented on, but you would hear stuff about Pako Ayesteran, for instance. And obviously Ronnie Moran.
Ah yes, the old 'quickly nip in and rebuild half the stadium' play.
If they can do that they can certainly spend a few weeks appointing a reasonably robust management structure. That's perfectly compatible with a short-term investment. In fact it's probably an essential part of it.
Whatever short or long term plan FSG have they haven't got the footballing infrastructure right yet.The commercial side gets a lot more attention from them and there's no harm in that if it helps the club compete financially but that doesn't mean the football side should be left behind. It looks directionless and lacking in leadership.
For Ayre to still be so involved with transfers after the cock ups of the last few years is strange to say the least. If he isn't low balling a club and pissing them off he vastly overpays for a player or agrees a fee and then still can't get it done.
So many times have we supposedly been in for a player who wants to come to us and were are the frontrunners for his signature only for us to be pipped at the post by someone else. It gets embarrassing at times and makes us look like Everton use to when their transfer dealings were equally inept. Summer after Summer our main transfer target goes to another club.
Either they don't see the connection with Ayre and our Farcical transfer dealings or they're not that bothered.
For Ayre to still be so involved with transfers after the cock ups of the last few years is strange to say the least. If he isn't low balling a club and pissing them off he vastly overpays for a player or agrees a fee and then still can't get it done.
So many times have we supposedly been in for a player who wants to come to us and were are the frontrunners for his signature only for us to be pipped at the post by someone else. It gets embarrassing at times and makes us look like Everton use to when their transfer dealings were equally inept. Summer after Summer our main transfer target goes to another club.
Either they don't see the connection with Ayre and our Farcical transfer dealings or they're not that bothered.
I'd get rid of him and Ayres. Things are drifting so badly!
The random pic thread had a Michael Cera post recently that was apt in Rodgers regard
According to an Italian Journalist Di Marzio.... Liverpool have contacted Jurgen Klopp and Rafa Benitez incase they sack Brendan Rodgers.... Madrid are apparently also interested in Benitez.
Here's Ayre arriving at the end of year awards event with his latest partner. The ladies really go for that woolly waistcoat look.
Ayre is already pissed off with Rodgers, after the manager got up and demanded the seating arrangements be changed several times, from a three-four-three-four-six set-up for the squad, to a ten-ten-ten, to a two-twenty-eight row system. And he's still at it.
Ayre is already pissed off with Rodgers, after the manager got up and demanded the seating arrangements be changed several times, from a three-four-three-four-six set-up for the squad, to a ten-ten-ten, to a two-twenty-eight row system. And he's still at it.
They look a gorgeous couple. He came wearing Harley-Davidson, while she was radiant in Sidecar.
Well, he does like bikes.
Where's that Kenneth Williams picture?
Either he's a better negotiator than i give him credit for or throwing money around gets results.
She has that look on her face that says 'I''m made up to be in the limelight but does it have to be next to him?'
She has that look on her face that says 'I''m made up to be in the limelight but does it have to be next to him?'
It explains a lot - Rodgers leaves his wife and chases other women, Ayre leaves his partner and chases other women. Anfield behind the scenes is like a Benny Hill sketch. No wonder stuff like player discipline, contracts and signings get overlooked.
I wonder when Rodgers left his wife if he took the giant picture of himself with him or as soon as he left without it she burned the fucking thing.
That she's an escort?
[article]- Brendan Rodgers was sacked last November. He will face the same indignity as Kenny Dalglish having to fly to the U.S and receive his p45 Wednesday 3rd June 2015
- FSG had a crisis meeting last year and blamed themselves for not having a contingency plan for this season going so badly
- With so many new signings having loyalty to Rodgers and senior players like Gerrard, Toure and Johnson having excellent relationships it was decided the sacking couldn’t take place until they had left
- Gerrard’s influence in the dressing room became a big worry for FSG and his position amongst supporters and it was decided he would have to leave
- FSG have been sounding out replacements for Rodgers since last year
- From November on there has been a transfer ban which led to no January activity and pulling out of the race to sign Depay late on
- FSG have been using the press to leak stories about reported interest in Rodgers transfer targets with no intention of signing them to keep Rodgers in the dark
- Liverpool are already identifying a different set of targets that Rodgers has not approved and is unaware are even being discussed
- Klopp has refused to speak with FSG until the season is over and said he will not allow his team to be distracted with a Cup Final approaching
- However his agent has been in discussion with LFC for months and has already provided a list of targets
- Feeling inside Anfield recent slump is because the players and the staff know the writing is on the wall for Rodgers
- FSG deliberately sabotaged the Sterling deal. The offer was nothing like £100,000 per week and even with potential bonus incentives did not reach that figure.
- FSG are aware changing manager is expensive and agreed last November to sell Sterling to fund the new managers spending spree though they hadn’t identified manager at that time
- Rodgers recently had a furious exchange with a staff member when in front of the players his methods were questioned
- FSG did not attend Steven Gerrard’s last game out of a lack of respect for Gerrard but simply because Rodgers has made it clear he is looking to speak to them face to face as he is aware there are two agendas being pushed at Anfield.[/article]
Bollocks probably.
- FSG had a crisis meeting last year and blamed themselves for not having a contingency plan for this season going so badly
- With so many new signings having loyalty to Rodgers and senior players like Gerrard, Toure and Johnson having excellent relationships it was decided the sacking couldn’t take place until they had left
- Gerrard’s influence in the dressing room became a big worry for FSG and his position amongst supporters and it was decided he would have to leave
- FSG have been sounding out replacements for Rodgers since last year
- From November on there has been a transfer ban which led to no January activity and pulling out of the race to sign Depay late on
- FSG have been using the press to leak stories about reported interest in Rodgers transfer targets with no intention of signing them to keep Rodgers in the dark
- Liverpool are already identifying a different set of targets that Rodgers has not approved and is unaware are even being discussed
- Klopp has refused to speak with FSG until the season is over and said he will not allow his team to be distracted with a Cup Final approaching
- However his agent has been in discussion with LFC for months and has already provided a list of targets
- Feeling inside Anfield recent slump is because the players and the staff know the writing is on the wall for Rodgers
- FSG deliberately sabotaged the Sterling deal. The offer was nothing like £100,000 per week and even with potential bonus incentives did not reach that figure.
- FSG are aware changing manager is expensive and agreed last November to sell Sterling to fund the new managers spending spree though they hadn’t identified manager at that time
- Rodgers recently had a furious exchange with a staff member when in front of the players his methods were questioned
- FSG did not attend Steven Gerrard’s last game out of a lack of respect for Gerrard but simply because Rodgers has made it clear he is looking to speak to them face to face as he is aware there are two agendas being pushed at Anfield.[/article]
Bollocks probably.
Probably. Would be ace if it's true though.
Where the hell is that lot from?
Sounds pretty farfetched.
Sounds pretty farfetched.
Illogical, counterproductive and a number of other adjectives too
Brendan Rodgers safe at Liverpool but end-of-season review likely to see changes to Anfield hierarchy
Management structure will be assessed and the addition of a director of football considered after a campaign in which the Reds under-performed
Liverpool's owners will launch an in-depth and wide-ranging review of the team's performance as soon as the season is over.
And while manager Brendan Rodgers' position is not under any immediate threat, he will be invited to be part of a series of meetings that will ask some tough questions about the failure to deliver the target of a top-four finish.
The club holds an annual review at the end of every season with an analysis of performance, but this will be one where changes ARE made to ensure there is an improvement on this term's sense of disappointment.
Rodgers accepts his team has underperformed, and that means the structure around him will come under scrutiny, even if sources within the club's inner sanctum insist he is not facing the sack, or even on trial.
What will be examined, though, is how the manager operates within the system Liverpool's American owners have put in place, to ensure the club pursues their clearly stated policy of building for the future from sensible financial foundations.
Rodgers has made noises about buying established talent in recent weeks, and it is clear he would dearly love some big money captures to add experience and qualityto his promising young squad.
Liverpool's owners John Henry and Tom Werner, though, along with director Mike Gordon, want to stick to the policy of developing young talent, and imposing a sensible wage structure on the playing staff where possible.
While they are not against big signings where clearly identified they are determined to avoid some of the excesses of the past, which almost bankrupted the club.
They will speak to Rodgers to determine if he is still fully behind that programme, and also get his views on the current structure which sees a transfer committee – where the manager is central to decisions – identifying future signings.
It is here where changes will almost certainly be made.
If Rodgers indicates he wants to continue within that model and believes he can deliver success to the club from it, then the review will attempt to identify whether changes can be made to ensure more efficient working.
The manager must make clear his ability to work within the club's set policies and be committed to them.
He is almost certain to do that, especially if the committee – which also contains MD Ian Ayre, head of analysis Michael Edwards, head of recruitment Dave Fallows, chief scout Barry Hunter and Gordon – is revamped.
The review will also examine whether a director of football is required, although Rodgers has fervently opposed that in the past and it could create further tensions.
The club will stress that the review is an annual event - but it is clear that some tough questions will be asked, and a shake-up below the manager is likely to happen.
Management structure will be assessed and the addition of a director of football considered after a campaign in which the Reds under-performed
Liverpool's owners will launch an in-depth and wide-ranging review of the team's performance as soon as the season is over.
And while manager Brendan Rodgers' position is not under any immediate threat, he will be invited to be part of a series of meetings that will ask some tough questions about the failure to deliver the target of a top-four finish.
The club holds an annual review at the end of every season with an analysis of performance, but this will be one where changes ARE made to ensure there is an improvement on this term's sense of disappointment.
Rodgers accepts his team has underperformed, and that means the structure around him will come under scrutiny, even if sources within the club's inner sanctum insist he is not facing the sack, or even on trial.
What will be examined, though, is how the manager operates within the system Liverpool's American owners have put in place, to ensure the club pursues their clearly stated policy of building for the future from sensible financial foundations.
Rodgers has made noises about buying established talent in recent weeks, and it is clear he would dearly love some big money captures to add experience and qualityto his promising young squad.
Liverpool's owners John Henry and Tom Werner, though, along with director Mike Gordon, want to stick to the policy of developing young talent, and imposing a sensible wage structure on the playing staff where possible.
While they are not against big signings where clearly identified they are determined to avoid some of the excesses of the past, which almost bankrupted the club.
They will speak to Rodgers to determine if he is still fully behind that programme, and also get his views on the current structure which sees a transfer committee – where the manager is central to decisions – identifying future signings.
It is here where changes will almost certainly be made.
If Rodgers indicates he wants to continue within that model and believes he can deliver success to the club from it, then the review will attempt to identify whether changes can be made to ensure more efficient working.
The manager must make clear his ability to work within the club's set policies and be committed to them.
He is almost certain to do that, especially if the committee – which also contains MD Ian Ayre, head of analysis Michael Edwards, head of recruitment Dave Fallows, chief scout Barry Hunter and Gordon – is revamped.
The review will also examine whether a director of football is required, although Rodgers has fervently opposed that in the past and it could create further tensions.
The club will stress that the review is an annual event - but it is clear that some tough questions will be asked, and a shake-up below the manager is likely to happen.
Does the writer know the time at which Rodgers will be sacked and the location. I will most likely be in Boston on June 2nd. I can stay an extra day and then post real time updates on here as the event unfolds.
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