Midfield against The Arse

[Stevesquash]

So we keep winning with szobo in there, running, pressing, making a nuisance of himself.... and giving the ball away a lot.

Jones has been awesome when he's played, but does he offer the same workrate and defensive solidity if he were to play the attacking midfield role?

Or should jones play alongside gravy, as Macca is looking a little tired?

Votes please!

 

[binomial]

Endo Trey and Ngumoha.

 

[MomoWASright]

Mac and Jones to start next to the first name on the team sheet.

Get Endo and Slobby on late second half.

 

[Hansern]

So we keep winning with szobo in there, running, pressing, making a nuisance of himself.... and giving the ball away a lot.

Jones has been awesome when he's played, but does he offer the same workrate and defensive solidity if he were to play the attacking midfield role?

Or should jones play alongside gravy, as Macca is looking a little tired?

Votes please!

Szobo has a pass completion of 87 % in the PL this season, so he's not giving the ball away that often..

 

[Hansern]

Spearing, Darren Potter, Biscan

 

[Stevesquash]

Szobo has a pass completion of 87 % in the PL this season, so he's not giving the ball away that often..

Maybe he does 87 safe passes, and the 13 times there's a trickier defence splitting pass, which even Nunez is starting to make, he fucks up?

I dont know, but i think most agree that our attacks break down too often when going through him. I think most also think that he's got it in him to be more consistent too.

And i think most appreciate the good work he puts in and that his passing will come good...

 

[localny]

Who’s the fresh legs?

 

[Frogfish]

Yeah I'm torn on this one. It comes down to : is Szobo running around the field like a mad man but constantly coughing up possession better or worse than Jones not having the same stamina but still putting in a decent defensive shift but retaining possession far better and being a greater danger in attack. I'll go with Jones.

As I said in the pre-match thread.

 

[Fabio]

I picked szob, because I feel the engine could be useful against the inevitable 3 DMs arsenal will play.

I would not be upset to see Jones start however

 

[MyBoyChiesa]

Quoting and drawing attention to your own self. tz tz tz tz Surely not something that should be generally encouraged. In Italy that is strongly frowned upon. Unless there is an actual great and unmistaken need for it. Which, in this case, I have no reason to think that there isn't. Even though I happen to substantively disagree with the written content. I definitely think Szobo should play.

Personally, I happen to think that everyone should keep a close eye on the things they have previously written or stated. Think about them and keep them cohesive and in tact with the newer things they happen to find themselves espousing. Admit errors, therefore too, when circumstances are inescapable. And so on.

 

[darkstarexodus]

Szobo has a pass completion of 87 % in the PL this season, so he's not giving the ball away that often..

That's an interesting stat. It really baffles me as I swear he gives the ball away at least 2/3 of the times he touches it.

But I don't know anything about anything...

Anyways, I think Szobo starts as our press is important to disrupting Arsenal's build up. I've been critical of him but this isn't the game to change it up.

Macca to rest for me as he still looks a bit off the pace and Curtis has earned a start after last weekend's performance.

But it could be Gravy, Macca, Szobo too - I'd be ok with that, Curtis to come on as a sub.

 

[rurikbird]

Jones is more likely to score or assist than Szobo at the moment, so I pick him.

 

[Frogfish]

Quoting and drawing attention to your own self. tz tz tz tz Surely not something that should be generally encouraged. In Italy that is strongly frowned upon. Unless there is an actual great and unmistaken need for it. Which, in this case, I have no reason to think that there isn't. Even though I happen to substantively disagree with the written content. I definitely think Szobo should play.

Personally, I happen to think that everyone should keep a close eye on the things they have previously written or stated. Think about them and keep them cohesive and in tact with the newer things they happen to find themselves espousing. Admit errors, therefore too, when circumstances are inescapable. And so on.

You really are a fucking thick twat aren't you. Brain dead. Bring back the AI - it's a massive improvement on this dimwitted cunt.

 

[Hansern]

That's an interesting stat. It really baffles me as I swear he gives the ball away at least 2/3 of the times he touches it.

But I don't know anything about anything...

Anyways, I think Szobo starts as our press is important to disrupting Arsenal's build up. I've been critical of him but this isn't the game to change it up.

Macca to rest for me as he still looks a bit off the pace and Curtis has earned a start after last weekend's performance.

But it could be Gravy, Macca, Szobo too - I'd be ok with that, Curtis to come on as a sub.

Its 74% in the oppositions half which is where he needs to improve. But in general I think the giving away the ball argument is well exaggerated.

 

[Markeh]

anyone any idea what the likely arsenal midfield is?

 

[Brizzle]

anyone any idea what the likely arsenal midfield is?

It’s dependent on their full backs but at a minimum it’s Partey & Rice. Then it could be Merino, Jorginho or Trossard in there.

 

[Markeh]

It’s dependent on their full backs but at a minimum it’s Partey & Rice. Then it could be Merino, Jorginho or Trossard in there.

not sure that helps me choose any differently but i wouldn’t be fearful of throwing cujo into that mix

 

[Fabio]

It’s dependent on their full backs but at a minimum it’s Partey & Rice. Then it could be Merino, Jorginho or Trossard in there.

Nwaneri is an option as well, depending if arteta is a shithouse or not

 

[mom]

Who cares? We’re gonna lose anyway.

 

[mark1975]

As much as Szobo has done my head in giving the ball away, I think you have to have him in there doing the Hendo job of running endlessly for 90 minutes. That said, it's difficult to justify leaving Jones out. Macca and Gravenberch are close to undroppable, Gravy especially.

Only concern is that we're not scoring loads and Diaz and Nunez can be pretty wasteful, so this is where we need someone to provide a threat from midfield too (Trent has to chip in too), and that's where it might make sense to have Jones being the one who makes late runs into the box.

Either way, it's a healthy predicament. I'd love Jones to play and have another good game, but that's what he has to do now right? He has to back up good performances with good performances.

 

[Farkmaster]

I think if we're still having something like this argument at the end of the season, i.e. it's not clear whether Curtis or Szobo are lethal enough in those critical moments to play those final passes, and we aren't sure which to prefer, then we need to get rid of one of them and improve in that position. Right now both are very good options but neither is league-winning. I'm assuming Salah will be on his way, and we can more easily replace some of those goals and assists by improving in AM than we can find a similarly productive RW.

 

[Farkmaster]

By the way, I don't think we win this one. I am not convinced by how we are playing at all.

 

[binomial]

By the way, I don't think we win this one. I am not convinced by how we are playing at all.

I haven’t been convinced since the opening day, then again the slow, passive, uneventful first half we saw that day led to us picking up 3 points, fast forward 10 weeks and it’s led us to picking up 10 more wins out of 11, the same pattern throughout.

Arsenal aren’t exactly flying right now and they’re certainly going to need to show something they haven’t yet to walk away with 3 points.

Despite our less than impressive wins, our biggest downfall in years gone by has been constant injuries to key players, let’s be fortunate we’ll be going into this one on the right side of that spectrum.

It’s anyones game to win.

 

[localny]

I asked ChatGTP to write a description on this weekend's game. Here's the response.

Can you tell me more about the game and mention current players?

ChatGPT said:​

Absolutely! The Liverpool vs. Arsenal match is always a key fixture in the Premier League, showcasing two of the league's top clubs.

Current Form:

• Liverpool has been strong at Anfield, with players like Mohamed Salah leading the attack. His pace and goal-scoring ability make him a constant threat. Other key players include Darwin Núñez, who adds physicality and versatility up front, and Trent Alexander-Arnold, known for his creativity and ability to deliver precise crosses.
• Arsenal has been impressive this season under Mikel Arteta, with players like Bukayo Saka and Gabriel Martinelli providing flair and speed on the wings. Declan Rice has also been a crucial addition in midfield, helping to stabilize the team defensively while contributing to their attacking play.

Tactical Battle:Liverpool's pressing game and quick transitions could pose problems for Arsenal, while Arsenal's ability to control possession and utilize their wing play will be key to breaking down Liverpool's defense.

Head-to-Head:Historically, this matchup has produced memorable moments, with both teams having spells of dominance. The atmosphere at Anfield will be electric, and the outcome could significantly impact the title race and top-four battle.

It promises to be an exciting game! Do you have any favorite players or aspects of the match you're looking forward to?

 

[Woland]

Jones is more likely to score or assist than Szobo at the moment, so I pick him.

This. I mean it's obvious. Szob is a slightly quicker Hendeson and CJ is now a slightly slower Gerrard. It can change week by week, so we don't need to be wedded to an argument. We don't need to drag each other's posts from a year ago up because form is temporary and we're allowed to change our minds.

 

[Woland]

The manager changes his mind every week. There is no perfect starting eleven

 

[LarryHagman]

If you had access to a crystal ball that could tell you that Szobo wouldn't have another good game for the next 1000 years (surprise surprise), cunts on here would still pick him.
Especially over Jones.