Benitez to be Newcastle Manager..
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Not appreciated. You'd avoid it for other religious figures and I'd be grateful if the same consideration could be applied to Stewianity
Is he really putting it in there? And do the American's know it's not real?
(or their fans!)
that too
Wow. Two managers who won us trophies, bought us fantastic players and gave us some incredible memories are regarded as shit? Just wow. Houllier changed the whole ethos of the club and finally dragged us into the modern era. Benitez turned us into the most feared team in Europe.
Truly flabberghasted!
Rafa's CV will be enhanced by another European cup victory whatever else. I think he'll make par if he gets Chelsea 3rd and will be enhanced by the Europa League win.
Probably puts him back on the map for a decent European-standard team rather than a domestic only one like Newcastle. Maybe Atletico if simeone moves on in the summer?
Probably puts him back on the map for a decent European-standard team rather than a domestic only one like Newcastle. Maybe Atletico if simeone moves on in the summer?
It was a master class is how to play an away league in Europe. I suggest you get some copies of our dour 0-0 or narrow away wins in Europe under Shanks and Paisley. This idea we played with panache and flair through our glory years is untrue. Yes, the 88 team did. Yes, we had a couple of teams in the 60's and 70's that did. But what we mostly did was be more effctive than the opposition. United this season are the same.
What idea? I never said that.
Fact is I don't like us playing like a cowering conference side on FA Cup 3rd round day, and I seriously doubt we ever did that during the 70s and 80s. I'm fully aware that we were very pragmatic, I just think you can be that without camping the entire game in your half. I am, after all, a staunch defender of Benitez!
Fair enough.
I see Rafa just won the Barclay's manager of the month.
Hold on? Did we win all 3 of those games in the end? I'm sure I saw the trophies in the cabinet?
If that's your response, what about this?
What about Rafa letting us go 3 behind in 2005 final?
Come on Modo, use the rational gene 🙂
You've got to hand it to Ferguson he holds a grudge well. Wobbling on his perch and having his European shortcomings highlighted must have really rattled him. Just as well for him Benitez isn't going to be in charge after the interim.
Just trying to counter all the Rafa bollox about him being lucky to win the CL and that we would have won it despite of him.
Says who? I haven't heard anyone say that. Yes there was an element of fortune in all of those finals, so what? You make your own luck, yes there was some naivety involved in why we made things so hard for ourselves, which I guess highlight's the respective managers flaws, but we won and that's all the record books say about Rafa's and Houllier's Cup wins.
I doubt that's the case TBH. My bet is most of us recognise that they both did great work to begin with but tailed off later on. If I met either I'd definitely thank them for the good stuff, which IMO outweighed the bad in both cases.
The correct answer.
While both went a bit loopy at the end, they took the club forward and won us lots of trophies. I've a lot of respect for both of them but the time was probably right when they left.
I actually think both brought us significantly forward, and then both brought us significantly backwards again.
Yup. Shame.
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