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Benitez: no one has asked me to stay at Liverpool

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I hope Broughton tells Rafa he can't guarantee anything, and Rafa leaves.

Then as soon as he's out the door, I hope Broughton's on the phone to Torres, Mascher and Stevie, telling them about the new owners, the new manager and the huge transfer funds we'll have this summer.

I hope all this, but I also doubt its likelihood.
 
True, but rightly or wrongly, I put a bit more stock in what Tony Barrett writes and besides, they're all pretty much saying the same thing.

As for Torres, I'm not sure. If there are no signs of investment and we're in a total mess, I wouldn't blame him for not staying. Why waste another year?
 
Good point Ken, but it's not that long ago that Torres stated that CL footie wasn't the most important thing for him. So, us finishing 7th won't be that much of a decider, but if it looks like there will be one more season of this horrid situation, then sure he could very well leave.

It's extremely important that the owner and manager situation is resolved before the WC ends. If not, we're in the shit. Torres won't decide anything before after the WC, that I'm pretty sure of.

Chelsea and City interest is not concerning though, I can't see him playing for another English club.

There are stories doing the rounds though, and confirmed by Balague, that Torres is fed up with Rafa. With him being more likely to stay if Rafa leaves. Same goes for Gerrard.
 
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Good point Ken, but it's not that long ago that Torres stated that CL footie wasn't the most important thing for him. So, us finishing 7th won't be that much of a decider, but if it looks like there will be one more season of this horrid situation, then sure he could very well leave.

It's extremely important that the owner and manager situation is resolved before the WC ends. If not, we're in the shit. Torres won't decide anything before after the WC, that I'm pretty sure of.

Chelsea and City interest is not concerning though, I can't see him playing for another English club.


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Barca interested, though, is another matter.

Didn't Torres mention some time ago that he wanted to play in Italy at some point?
 
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Good point Ken, but it's not that long ago that Torres stated that CL footie wasn't the most important thing for him. So, us finishing 7th won't be that much of a decider, but if it looks like there will be one more season of this horrid situation, then sure he could very well leave.

It's extremely important that the owner and manager situation is resolved before the WC ends. If not, we're in the shit. Torres won't decide anything before after the WC, that I'm pretty sure of.

Chelsea and City interest is not concerning though, I can't see him playing for another English club.


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Barca interested, though, is another matter.

Didn't Torres mention some time ago that he wanted to play in Italy at some point?
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Barca have all but signed David Villa according to the Spanish press
 
I don't see where Torres could go, apart from City or Chelsea. No one else could afford him, and the Italian league surely isn't good enough to attract him.

Barca, as stated, are about to sign Villa, and as for Real... hah!
 
Can you really see Fernando in a City or Chelsea kit, playing at Anfield against us?

Nope, and I think he can't either.
 
I think we shouldn't kid ourselves. if no owner is forthcoming therefore no investment and a significantsum comes in for torres when I think he will move on. he LEFT AM because he didn't mediocrity the irony is if he'd stayed he'd be in a cup final now.
I'm totally braced for torres leaving in the summer and I wouldn't blame him either. so long as we get the maximum and every penny is reinvested in the time (unlike the keane money) then we're just going to have to get on with it.
 
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Juventus target Rafael Benítez gives Liverpool ultimatum over future
Tony Barrett


Rafael Benítez will tell Liverpool that only a cast-iron commitment allowing him to invest all of the proceeds from player sales this summer will tempt him to remain at Anfield.

How dare he!
 
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Juventus target Rafael Benítez gives Liverpool ultimatum over future
Tony Barrett


Rafael Benítez will tell Liverpool that only a cast-iron commitment allowing him to invest all of the proceeds from player sales this summer will tempt him to remain at Anfield.

How dare he!
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the bastard! >🙁
 
I think Benitez will be gone by the end of the week, if not right after the Hull game.

Our non executive Chairman can't give him the answers he's looking for, and Juventus wants an answer by the end of the week.

I think it's goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

And if it's true that Torres and Gerrard are more likely to stay if he leaves, then I sure the hell know who I want to stay..
 
Torres and Gerrard have only ever said positive things about Rafa, so who's spouting this stuff about them being more likely to stay if he goes mate?
 
Balague said it a while back, and the Mirror is running a story about it today. Was in another rag not to long ago aswell.

Gerrard has looked disinterested for a while now, and I think the final straw for Torres must have been the Brum game.
 
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Balague said it a while back, and the Mirror is running a story about it today. Was in another rag not to long ago aswell.

Gerrard has looked disinterested for a while now, and I think the final straw for Torres must have been the Brum game.
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Must be true then.
 
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Balague said it a while back, and the Mirror is running a story about it today. Was in another rag not to long ago aswell.

Gerrard has looked disinterested for a while now, and I think the final straw for Torres must have been the Brum game.
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Must be true then.
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Heh, could be or it couldn't be. But there to many stories about the subject for something to not be going on. The dressing room stories has been doing the rounds for ever.
 
Torres last week:

Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez has been linked with a move to Juventus in the summer, but Torres insists his fellow Spaniard is the reason why he came to Anfield.

"The difference between him and my other managers is that when I was at Atletico [Madrid] I was always over-protected," he added.

"Here, Rafa [Benitez] demands a lot and I have to live up to expectations. Some players need to be spoilt and other players like me need to always be pushed, and to have more asked of us.

"If Rafa had not been here I would never have come. He has taught me a lot and he has helped me go beyond my limits and to be the player I am today."
 
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Balague said it a while back, and the Mirror is running a story about it today. Was in another rag not to long ago aswell.

Gerrard has looked disinterested for a while now, and I think the final straw for Torres must have been the Brum game.
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Must be true then.
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Heh, could be or it couldn't be. But there to many stories about the subject for something to not be going on. The dressing room stories has been doing the rounds for ever.
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I don't think that follows at all. Bunny's post above sums it up for me.
 
Out of context? Old quotes?

Rafa might have been the reason why he came here, but that doesn't change the fact that things might have changed in the last 12 months.

I think Rafa will be gone regardless.
 
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Balague said it a while back, and the Mirror is running a story about it today. Was in another rag not to long ago aswell.

Gerrard has looked disinterested for a while now, and I think the final straw for Torres must have been the Brum game.
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Must be true then.
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Heh, could be or it couldn't be. But there to many stories about the subject for something to not be going on. The dressing room stories has been doing the rounds for ever.
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That they have, yet we are still to hear anyone of note come out and say anything about it (even after they've left the club).

If MON, Hodgson or McLeish were to come in, I'd suspect that we'd have less chance of keeping the likes of Mascher, Stevie and Torres with us personally.
 
When I read that I thought Benitez would consider selling Gerrard to Real or italy for a big fee while we can still get it and use it to invest elsewhere. would be a massive gamble but if he has to think about the team, squad and the club
 
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When I read that I thought Benitez would consider selling Gerrard to Real or italy for a big fee while we can still get it and use it to invest elsewhere. would be a massive gamble but if he has to think about the team, squad and the club
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I have every confidence that Benitez would take any monies from a Gerrard (or Torres, or Mascherano) sale and invest it wisely in the team, squad and the club.
 
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I think Benitez will be gone by the end of the week, if not right after the Hull game.

Our non executive Chairman can't give him the answers he's looking for, and Juventus wants an answer by the end of the week.

I think it's goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

And if it's true that Torres and Gerrard are more likely to stay if he leaves, then I sure the hell know who I want to stay..
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I like the things you have to say, but I will fear you're leading me into a false sense of security.
 
I wish this thread would die. Just seeing the headline on the forum page annoys me.
 
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Out of context? Old quotes?

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Why worry about context and timing of quotes now, when you're quite happy to speculate based on 'lots of reports' with no quotes whatsoever?
 
I thought that was the meaning of all this, speculating?
I'm sure I can dig up some quoted if you like. It's just not very easy when you're working and haven't got the time to browse everywhere to back up your arguments.
 
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I thought that was the meaning of all this, speculating?
I'm sure I can dig up some quoted if you like. It's just not very easy when you're working and haven't got the time to browse everywhere to back up your arguments.
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I just find it amusing that you are happy to talk about Rafa losing the dressing room, based on nothing articles, yet you question quotes from Torres and want to know context.

By your logic, Torres has spoken about his admiration for Rafa and his desire to stay here often enough that it must be true. Right?
 
Heh, I was mere asking if it might have been old quotes. As Torres might have changed his mind during the last couple of months.

Nothing more nothing less.
 
Rafael Benitez twice cancels Liverpool showdown talks


Benitez had promised to get Liverpool back into the Champions League
Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez has cancelled two scheduled face-to-face meetings with the club's new chairman, Martin Broughton.

Benitez claimed on Monday that he was anxious to "meet with the chairman sooner rather than later".

But it is understood that he pulled out of talks with Broughton last week and another the week before.

A further meeting is scheduled for this week amid speculation about Benitez's future with the club.

Liverpool went out of the Europa League last week and have failed to qualify for next season's Champions League.

It is not clear why Benitez cancelled the meetings with Broughton, although the last two weeks have been affected by preparations for Liverpool's Europa League semi-final meetings with Atletico Madrid.

The first week in particular was heavily disrupted as Benitez's team were forced to make the long journey to the Spanish capital by road and rail after flights were grounded by ash from the Icelandic volcano.

But, even allowing for that, there is some surprise inside the Anfield boardroom at the timing of Benitez's call on Tuesday for an urgent meeting with Broughton to discuss the future.

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With a net spend in the past two seasons of just over £2m, would any other manager have done better?

Bleeding Red
That plus the Spanish manager's request for assurances over his summer transfer kitty would seem to suggest that Benitez is stalling for time, with a possible £3.5m-a-year offer to quit Liverpool for Juventus thought to be on the table.

Benitez, who could receive somewhere between £10m and £15m in compensation were he to be sacked by Liverpool, was unavailable for comment but was quoted on Tuesday as saying: "I would like to meet with the chairman sooner rather than later to know his idea about the future.

"Still, we are working hard and planning for the future. Liverpool is a massive name in England and again in Europe. Everybody knows about the history of the club and the fans, so we can still attract players to improve the squad."

Liverpool have refused to comment on the cancelled meetings.

With the five-time European champions failing to qualify for the Champions League, attracting new players and keeping stars such as Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard will be much harder for Benitez.

The sale of the club, which is being conducted by British Airways chairman Broughton and investment bank Barclays Capital, could take months, meaning even more uncertainty over how much money will be available to strengthen Liverpool's squad during the close season
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I like the things you have to say, but I will fear you're leading me into a false sense of security.
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Did you post this here by accident, Anita, thinking it was www.findromance.com?
 
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