Baling out Tottenham.

[Oncy]

Surely. Surely Spurs have already agreed a fee to sell Bale?

How can they afford the signings they have made? They arent in the champions league and have signed:
Soldado
Paulinho
Capoue
Holtby
Cahdli
in the last 8 months for 60m and are reportedly ready to make that 90m with the Will.i.an signing.

Something has to give surely? They arent as big a brand or pull overseas for sales and merchandise, their ground holds 36,000 fans (less than Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds etc) and they have had ONE season in the Champions league three years ago.
I dont get it, are they going down the Leeds road?

 

[Mamma Mia]

The like is for the thread title. I don't care enough about Spurs to read the rest.

 

[Frogfish]

Bale's been on the 'injured' list for a couple of weeks now and both Real & Spurs have been very quiet over this. It's happening, they are just thrashing out the details. World record transfer fee pays for all the above with plenty left over (plus whatever else their budget was for this Summer).

 

[Ceefax the Cat]

They are owned by Joe Lewis. According to Wiki Lewis' total wealth is estimated at $4.2 billion, and he is the ninth richest person in Britain.

Plenty of moolah there.

 

[Dirkus_Circus]

I was impressed with Chadli in their game against Palace. I know nothing about him but he looked like a good player for his debut.

 

[keniget]

+1 for thread title from me too.

I'm only speculating because I can't be bothered to go look shit up but I'm pretty sure their wage bill has been pretty low (relative to other 'top' teams) up until recently at least. They've held back on big signings in the last few summers (after repeatedly failing to sign a striker like Damiao for example) so maybe they have money in reserve to spend. And they're also set up well behind the scenes, charge a fortune for tickets etc...

 

[peterhague]

I'd imagine at London prices their 36k plus corporate stuff is going to generate more than we do, but that's a guess.

Generally Spurs have kept within their means fairly well since stepping things up 8 or 9 years ago. But naturally having Joe Lewis to back them up and the very clever Levy running things helps plenty, too.

And clearly this recent splurge is being done with the idea of Bale being sold quite soon - and even if not this summer then next. He's good for £60m+ for a couple of years at least.

 

[FoxForceFive]

He'll go for about 85/90k at the end of the window.

I'm sure real have agreed it in principle with spurs already.

 

[Mystic]

Even with making £60million from Bale, how the hell can they afford the influx of wages?

 

[Y1]

It is all about Levy.. he is a magician.

 

[ILD]

Nice work on the thread title Oncy.

 

[peterhague]

Could be wrong but my guess is that the board sense that this is the time to establish themselves as a top 4 club and then try to kick on from there. So presumably are prepared to gamble a little bit on wages etc especially given their wealthy backing.

And tbf they're not far wrong, are they? Arsenal are in a mess and we're still a bit of a long shot for 4th. If they can't make the leap this year they might as well give up.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Could be wrong but my guess is that the board sense that this is the time to establish themselves as a top 4 club and then try to kick on from there. So presumably are prepared to gamble a little bit on wages etc especially given their wealthy backing.

And tbf they're not far wrong, are they? Arsenal are in a mess and we're still a bit of a long shot for 4th. If they can't make the leap this year they might as well give up.

Agree entirely.

Unfortunately I think they've timed it perfectly & have backed avb to do it.

It's a gamble, but on paper it seems a better timed & planned gamble than FSG with Kenny.

 

[Gary25]

Could be wrong but my guess is that the board sense that this is the time to establish themselves as a top 4 club and then try to kick on from there. So presumably are prepared to gamble a little bit on wages etc especially given their wealthy backing.

And tbf they're not far wrong, are they? Arsenal are in a mess and we're still a bit of a long shot for 4th. If they can't make the leap this year they might as well give up.

Yep. I reckon that's exactly why they're splashing the cash and you can't blame them.

Must a double whammy for Arsenal fans when they their biggest rivals going out spending whilst they've spent fuck all.

 

[Frogfish]

I was impressed with Chadli in their game against Palace. I know nothing about him but he looked like a good player for his debut.

TBH I wasn't impressed with any of their new signings (Chadli, Soldado, Paulinho) and no more than 6/10 for any of them on the day. Dembele was doing all the work for Paulinho, Soldado was on a different wavelength (that may come) and Chadli wasn't particularly fast, nor able to beat his man, nor creative, though he was decent at keeping possession and loved to come inside and missed an absolute sitter of a header from 5 yds out that he should have buried.

 

[King Binny]

Some deals are structured, for example Soldado's fee was €12m up front, with €6m in each of the next three years.

Sales over current and previous 2 seasons bought in close to £85 million.

van der Vaart - £10.3 million
Modric - £33 million
Corluka - £5.5million
Pienaar - £4.5 million
Kranjcar - £7 million
Bassong - £4 million
Huddlestone - £5.25 million
Demspey - £5.25 million
Caulker - £9 million

Dembele was probably their most expensive signing at £15m during that period of time, prior to this season. Had a fairly quiet11/12 transfer window with Parker the only money signing.

Dated April 2013
Wage Bill, £m (2011-12)
Manchester City 202
Chelsea 173
Manchester United 162
Arsenal 143
Liverpool 119
Tottenham Hotspur 90

Also working on 56k capacity stadium in time for 2015/16 which will no doubt help close the gap

White Hart Lane, with a capacity of 36,230, brought in £1.6million a game and £41.1m overall during the 2011-12 season but Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium, boasting 60,361 seats, generated £3.3m a match and a total of £95.2m. Given that White Hart Lane was at 99.5 per capacity for games — the best of London’s Premier League sides — there is clearly a demand for tickets.

http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-UnitedKingdom/Local Assets/Documents/Industries/Sports Business Group/uk-sbg-football-money-league-2013.pdf

Although they've missed out on CL yet again, they've managed to put in a tough fight and substained challenge for CL qualification. Along with the increased TV reveune, it is indeed a sensible timing to splash the cash.

 

[RedZeppelin III]

do we still prefer rodgers to AVB ? Does AVB have more "pulling power" to attract players ?

 

[Oncy]

Some deals are structured, for example Soldado's fee was €12m up front, with €6m in each of the next three years.

Sales over current and previous 2 seasons bought in close to £85 million.


Dembele was probably their most expensive signing at £15m during that period of time, prior to this season. Had a fairly quiet11/12 transfer window with Parker the only money signing.

Dated April 2013
Wage Bill, £m (2011-12)
Manchester City 202
Chelsea 173
Manchester United 162
Arsenal 143
Liverpool 119
Tottenham Hotspur 90

Also working on 56k capacity stadium in time for 2015/16 which will no doubt help close the gap

http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-UnitedKingdom/Local Assets/Documents/Industries/Sports Business Group/uk-sbg-football-money-league-2013.pdf

Although they've missed out on CL yet again, they've managed to put in a tough fight and substained challenge for CL qualification. Along with the increased TV reveune, it is indeed a sensible timing to splash the cash.

Binny you suck the fucking fun out of everything.
Youre the Germany of this forum.

 

[the count]

Binny you suck the fucking fun out of everything.
You're the Germany Rebel 23 of this forum.

 

[ILD]

How did Levy get 7million for Kranjcar? Where did he end up?

 

[King Binny]

How did Levy get 7million for Kranjcar? Where did he end up?

Dynamo Kiev. Some sources had the fee as 5.5m though.

 

[ILD]

Thanks.

 

[Judge Jules]

He'll go for about 85/90k at the end of the window.

I'm sure real have agreed it in principle with spurs already.

If he really does go for 85/90k Levy will get hung, drawn and quartered by their fans. 😉

 

[Judge Jules]

do we still prefer rodgers to AVB ? Does AVB have more "pulling power" to attract players ?

I'd have taken just about anybody in preference to Villas Boas after the lash-up he made of the Chelsea job. In fairness, he's done better than I expected at Tottenham, but I very much doubt he's a better long-term prospect than Rodgers. My guess is the pulling power at that club consists of the wages they're offering rather than the prospect of playing for that particular manager.

 

[TSD]

AVB seems the more higher profile on the continent after his stints at Porto and Chelsea, but connections wise (both having ties to Mourinho), AVB and BR are just about equal IMO.

I prefer Rodgers though cos I like the fact that he's had experience as a youth coach and bringing youngsters through.