Aspas to valencia

[FoxForceFive]

Loan deal apparently.

Not confirmed yet officially but been reported on the radio, all be it Talksport.

You'd assume that means we're close to at least one striker coming in.

I'd have liked to have seen Aspas go to an English side personally.

 

[Glen C]

Id be very surprised if thats true. Our squad is to small. Why buy another backup striker when there are other more pressing positions to worry about?

 

[Holle]

Hopefully with a buy-out-clause.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

I'd have liked to have seen Aspas go to an English side personally.

If we intend on using him ... If not, and we're hoping to sell, a loan to Spain is smarter.

 

[FoxForceFive]

If we intend on using him ... If not, and we're hoping to sell, a loan to Spain is smarter.

True.

 

[DHSC]

2 glaring mistakes from Rodgers re Borini and Aspas if true. We spent close to 18m on both of them.

 

[Rosco]

Another fuck up.

 

[rurikbird]

Borini no, I think he can have a future here. And he was desperately unlucky with injuries.

Aspas probably a mistake, after all. Don't think he'll be back. Let's hope we recoup our money.

 

[Mors]

This is good news on 2 fronts, one, we get aspas out the way, and two, we'd only let him go if we've got a quality forward coming in for the first team.
Win/win.

 

[Mystic]

What I love about Rodgers is that he's the first person to admit he's made a mistake and ship the player on their way. If Aspas goes, I wonder if it signals that Salah is actually about to join, or maybe that Morata guy.

 

[SummerOnions]

Aspas for Ings?

 

[Rosco]

What I love about Rodgers is that he's the first person to admit he's made a mistake and ship the player on their way. If Aspas goes, I wonder if it signals that Salah is actually about to join, or maybe that Morata guy.

Well he's not admitting he made mistakes, he quite clearly has tried to lay the blame elsewhere for Ilori - despite telling us months earlier he has full control over transfers.

It's fine to ship out player if we're getting our money back, and not dishing out a pay off to the player to get rid. But when you do it consistently as we have done for years now all you're doing is wasting money.

I'd love to know who the journalist was that described him effectively as Suarez light.

 

[gkmacca]

Ilori? He was a good signing.

 

[Rosco]

Ilori? He was a good signing.

I'm not getting into whether or not he is.

But Rodgers clearly tried to make out he had little say in the signing

 

[gkmacca]

I'm not getting into whether or not he is.

But Rodgers clearly tried to make out he had little say in the signing

I know Borrell and others were raving about Ilori when he played at Anfield in the youth tournament, so I'm sure the moves to get him did indeed begin before Brendan arrived.

 

[ILD]

I don't like loans like this. We need to know what he can do in England. Sending him back to Spain will do little for us bar giving us an option to sell him in the summer. I presume he isn't coming back so. A poor transfer all round. I expected/hoped for a diet Suarez. The player we needed was Diego Costa not Aspas. That's a bit harsh on Aspas as their values were different. Hopefully we'll recoup most of our 7million back.

 

[Mystic]

Well he's not admitting he made mistakes, he quite clearly has tried to lay the blame elsewhere for Ilori - despite telling us months earlier he has full control over transfers.

It's fine to ship out player if we're getting our money back, and not dishing out a pay off to the player to get rid. But when you do it consistently as we have done for years now all you're doing is wasting money.

I'd love to know who the journalist was that described him effectively as Suarez light.

He cancelled Sahin's loan, shipped Borini out on loan, now he's meant to be shipping out Aspas because they aren't good enough, I think thats proof enough that he admits his mistakes. I'm not really sure how Ilori is relevant here.

 

[ILD]

What did Rogers say about the Llori transfer? Feel free to split this into a new thread Ross if you don't want it here.

 

[Rosco]

He cancelled Şahin's loan, shipped Borini out on loan, now he's meant to be shipping out Aspas because they aren't good enough, I think thats proof enough that he admits his mistakes. I'm not really sure how Ilori is relevant here.

Because he tried to blame someone else. If he's questioned on the above deals I'm sure he'd do the same

All I'm seeing is him buying shit players.

 

[jimmy]

Is there a single manager who never makes mistakes in the transfer market?

 

[Fabio]

What did Rogers say about the Llori transfer? Feel free to split this into a new thread Ross if you don't want it here.

He said he never wanted him

Ilori he did though

*pedant*

 

[keniget]

Did we pay 7M euros or pounds?

 

[Silver Sean]

All managers, successful or otherwise buy loads of players that are a waste of time/aren't as good as they thought/pointless. It's developing and keeping hold of the ones that work out that's the skillful bit.
Ferguson bought Mike Phelan, Neil Webb, Djemba Dlemba, Veron, Anderson, Bebe, Kleberson, Taibi, Bosnich, Poborsky, Bellion, Jordi Cruyff, Obertan, Forlan (good once he left), Quinton Fortune, and many other shithouses, and has left them with a steaming pile of Buttner, Cleverley, and the other wankers Savage savaged.

Whatever happens with Aspas, Borini etc we have a young manager who at least admits when he's made a mistake and seems to learn from them. Rather that than a stubborn fucker who plays a player who is shit just to prove who's in charge.

 

[rurikbird]

It's strange to suggest that Rodgers tried to "blame" someone for this transfer, since Ilori is doing really well in the reserves and looks every bit like our starting CB of the future. Anyway, it has nothing to do with Aspas.

 

[FoxForceFive]

All managers, successful or otherwise buy loads of players that are a waste of time/aren't as good as they thought/pointless. It's developing and keeping hold of the ones that work out that's the skillful bit.
Ferguson bought Mike Phelan, Neil Webb, Djemba Dlemba, Veron, Anderson, Bebe, Kleberson, Taibi, Bosnich, Poborsky, Bellion, Jordi Cruyff, Obertan, Forlan (good once he left), Quinton Fortune, and many other shithouses, and has left them with a steaming pile of Buttner, Cleverley, and the other wankers Savage savaged.

Whatever happens with Aspas, Borini etc we have a young manager who at least admits when he's made a mistake and seems to learn from them. Rather that than a stubborn fucker who plays a player who is shit just to prove who's in charge.

If I could like this twice I would.

I may unlike it so I can like it again.

 

[refugee]

Is there a single manager who never makes mistakes in the transfer market?

Bruce Rioch at Arsenal. I think he only signed Bergkamp and Platt (think Rioch was only there for one season)

 

[gkmacca]

This is what Rodgers told the Echo about Ilori.

"I wanted to try to protect the present and the future of the club.

"Centre-halves are so hard to find. You look at some teams and they have ageing centre-halves because it is a struggle to get a really good one.

"We were fortunate in that two became available, one that we had been tracking for a year in Tiago Ilori, a young talent but who can be a big talent.

"He is 6' 3", super quick, power, can jump, and he just needs to adapt to the pace and physicality of the Premier League. He is one for the future, but he can be a really big talent.

 

[Rosco]

All managers, successful or otherwise buy loads of players that are a waste of time/aren't as good as they thought/pointless. It's developing and keeping hold of the ones that work out that's the skillful bit.
Ferguson bought Mike Phelan, Neil Webb, Djemba Dlemba, Veron, Anderson, Bebe, Kleberson, Taibi, Bosnich, Poborsky, Bellion, Jordi Cruyff, Obertan, Forlan (good once he left), Quinton Fortune, and many other shithouses, and has left them with a steaming pile of Buttner, Cleverley, and the other wankers Savage savaged.

Whatever happens with Aspas, Borini etc we have a young manager who at least admits when he's made a mistake and seems to learn from them. Rather that than a stubborn fucker who plays a player who is shit just to prove who's in charge.

The losers attitude.

It's okay to fuck up because other people do? It's a horrible mediocre attitude.

Rodgers hasn't shown he has learned anything.

He bought Borini, and had to loan him out because he's not good enough. He bought Aspas, 6 months and no league goals later we're loaning him out.

19m in fees and probably 20m in wages to the pair and we're not using them.

We're wasting money hand over fist again.

 

[Mystic]

Because he tried to blame someone else. If he's questioned on the above deals I'm sure he'd do the same

All I'm seeing is him buying shit players.

Coutinho, Sturridge, Mignolet and Sakho are just terrible aren't they?

I couldn't care if he tries to blame the Pope, as long as he accepts the players aren't good enough and stops playing them, or ships them out, which he has done multiple times since he's been here, even with his favourite, Allen. That's enough proof that he accepts he's wrong about some players to me, if you want to continue to play the largely irrelevant blame game based upon some quotes about a youth player, that you've yet to share with us, well that's fine.

 

[Mystic]

"I wanted to try to protect the present and the future of the club.

"Centre-halves are so hard to find. You look at some teams and they have ageing centre-halves because it is a struggle to get a really good one.

"We were fortunate in that two became available, one that we had been tracking for a year in Tiago Ilori, a young talent but who can be a big talent.

"He is 6' 3", super quick, power, can jump, and he just needs to adapt to the pace and physicality of the Premier League. He is one for the future, but he can be a really big talent.

Blimey, look at him scrambling to blame others.