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One way or another, he's going to get you get you get you.
Gabis like forest Gump, no one shouted stop
Gabis like forest Gump, no one shouted stop
Don't get me started on these fucking ridiculous names, I swear the Irish make them up to confuse people who pronounce words properly.
I now you've mentioned 'Irish American' I may as well ask you. Do people in the US who have an Irish grandparent really say that they're Irish & sing Irish songs like they do in the wire?
It seems a bit far fetched but I keep seeing it on US cop shows especially , prompting me & the wife to shout 'yeah, you sound real Irish you do' in unison at the telly.
In my experience American people of Italian descent can often be just as fixated on "the old country" as those of Irish descent. We just don't tend to hear about it as much, for understandable reasons.
I like that for all of the grimacing and "pain" he is in from the tackle he is still more concerned with his stupid hair and swishing it to the side with his hands 4-5 times before making it to the touchline.
Yeah, but do they call themselves Italian?!
I can't see someone who's granddad was Irish now calling themselves Irish with a straight face!
My mate's mum & dad are both Indian & we're born in India yet he's English, he'd be annoyed if someone told him he was Indian.
I can't see someone who's granddad was Irish now calling themselves Irish with a straight face!
My mate's mum & dad are both Indian & we're born in India yet he's English, he'd be annoyed if someone told him he was Indian.
.... so lets add dismemberment & sodomy to the list.
That's pretty much the serial killer full monty.
Good work.
Beautiful name. Niamh is nice too.
Who did Luis hit now?????
Ok FFF (pulls up a chair). Here's how it works; when they say they are Irish, they are saying they are Irish American, its not as much as a connection to Ireland, as a statement of what they are and what they are not (Italian American, Polish American etc). Each hyphenated American cultural experience comes with their own identity. To be a Irish American is to be witty, have the gift of the gab, and other traits which we can chat about later. All superficial enough to allow for some labeling and banter.
Differences are celebrated here.
But remember one thing: being Irish in America is incredibly positive thing. I mean, incredibly positive on steroids. I feel incredibly lucky and indebted to the Irish who came here over the years to build up that acceptance. I say this, as I lived in England for a bit in the early 90's when being Irish was to be honest a negative. But thats another days work! Being Irish in America opens a lot of doors. Personal and professional.
Ok, next thing, Police Officers and the Wire? There is a huge tradition of Police Officers and Firemen who are Irish American by origins, and their fathers and grandfathers had the same position. I look at their faces, and I see familiar faces, they look like people I grew up with. So it's a family identity and a Cultural identity. NYC st Paddys day parade? It's 70% marching Police and Fire Bands.
The Wire is my favorite drama of the modern day - you know Mayor Tommy Carcetti is from Dublin right? And there's a bunch of British actors in there..that you wouldn't guess.
But I digress..being Irish / Irish American is a hugely positive thing, and that helps lubricate the attachment.
One final comment: like you, when I came to America and people said they were Irish, I would laugh, and maybe make a smart remark. But, having had kids, I'd hope they could call themselves Irish, even though they live here, And speak with an American accent, - so I do get it now.
I make sure we celebrate St Paddys at their schools, and that my kids identify themselves as such. Probably a little cheesy, but there you go.
People integrate more in the UK, especially when the troubles were going on. Terry Wogan, Des Lynam, never really advertised their Irishness. They just integrated. It was the done thing.
And the Italian Americans are probably worse than the Irish. Ever meet a New Jersey Italian? Oh lord.
Hope this helps! Any input @Whaddapie?
Yes it's very different:
Where were you? Ceard a bhfuil tu? - bhfuil is pronounced "will".
Aimsir fháistineach means "future tense" - fháistineach is pronounced "Awww-shta- knoughhhh"
The fh is pronounced like "Awww.."
It's a mad language but glad I had to learn it. (Kind of)
Fuair Peig Bas indeed!
Ruari would be a tough one, I would see! Great name. Should have had that one on the baby list. Darragh, Rory, Oisin, Ferdia, Connell (strong contender), all got the veto. We ended up with a Welsh mainstream name!
Sadhb
Yes, Mignolet has been great at making 'em @gene hughes
I think I'd enjoy watching a lighting rig collapse onto the band mid-song.
But that clip just makes me think Agbonlahor is a bell end.
But that clip just makes me think Agbonlahor is a bell end.
In NI it's also a handy way of quickly working out someone's religion with about 99% accuracy.
In my experience, yes, they often do.
Now I know the first one is Siobhan after being embarrassed years ago, but what the fuck is that second one?
Id try to pronounce it Alfie but with an O instead of an L, cos I'm weird like that.
Let me guess, it's actually Tracey, or Malcolm.
Actually you're not that far off (if you use your imagination of someone with a scouse accent trying to pronounce Alfie with an O instead of an L), it's pronounced Ee-fa
Actually, it's quite simple, as far as the Americans are concerned. And, once explained to me in this manner, I understood it better...
Unless you're a Native American, you're not originally from here. This is a nation of immigrants. And when they say "I'm Irish", what they really mean is "I'm of Irish decent..". Because practically everybody is 'from' somewhere else, originally. And the country is still young enough that, for many, the generation that first emigrated to the States is still alive, or at least was alive during their youth, and they have typically instilled a tremendous pride in their 'home' country into their kids, grandkids, and so on... Hence the fact that many Irish Americans are far more 'Oirish' than I am! And the same is true for practically every other 'nationality' within the country.
For my part, I'm not raising my girls to claim to be Irish. For me, they're not. I want them to say "I'm American" and be proud of that. But I am raising them to know of their Dad's origins, and they're enjoying that, too... They love to visit, cannot wait to return and they love telling people "My Daddy's from Dublin".
Plastic Paddys used to really bug me, but it doesn't bother me like it once did. If there's one part of it I'll never understand, it's the desperate need of some people to feel like they're from somewhere else, when in reality, they're 5th generation American, and their links to 'the old country' are as tenuous as my claiming to be a Viking. But to each their own, I suppose.
Paddy's Day can be a real pain in the arse over here, though! 🙂
Unless you're a Native American, you're not originally from here. This is a nation of immigrants. And when they say "I'm Irish", what they really mean is "I'm of Irish decent..". Because practically everybody is 'from' somewhere else, originally. And the country is still young enough that, for many, the generation that first emigrated to the States is still alive, or at least was alive during their youth, and they have typically instilled a tremendous pride in their 'home' country into their kids, grandkids, and so on... Hence the fact that many Irish Americans are far more 'Oirish' than I am! And the same is true for practically every other 'nationality' within the country.
For my part, I'm not raising my girls to claim to be Irish. For me, they're not. I want them to say "I'm American" and be proud of that. But I am raising them to know of their Dad's origins, and they're enjoying that, too... They love to visit, cannot wait to return and they love telling people "My Daddy's from Dublin".
Plastic Paddys used to really bug me, but it doesn't bother me like it once did. If there's one part of it I'll never understand, it's the desperate need of some people to feel like they're from somewhere else, when in reality, they're 5th generation American, and their links to 'the old country' are as tenuous as my claiming to be a Viking. But to each their own, I suppose.
Paddy's Day can be a real pain in the arse over here, though! 🙂
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