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[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439588#msg1439588 date=1323253614]
Yeah Torres Macherano Alonso Reina Garcia Sissoko Crouch Agger Bellemy Kuyt Arbeloa Lucas Benyoun Rodreguez Johnson even Shelvey, if only he had bought better ......
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How many of those came in the last 2-3 windows?
Yeah Torres Macherano Alonso Reina Garcia Sissoko Crouch Agger Bellemy Kuyt Arbeloa Lucas Benyoun Rodreguez Johnson even Shelvey, if only he had bought better ......
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How many of those came in the last 2-3 windows?
[quote author=Richey link=topic=47803.msg1439587#msg1439587 date=1323253520]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439575#msg1439575 date=1323252610]
the following season when Rafa took over, we had the worst run of injuries in our footballing history, only 4 players managed to play more than 30 Premiere League games that season through injuries, which is still a 'record' to this day, yet we only finished on 2 points lower than the season before and got to 2 Cup Finals ......
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Yes, true. As I said I am not slagging off Benitez.
But its not as if Houllier's last season was plain sailing either. I think only 5 players got over 30 league games then. And how many games have we had Gerrard fit this season? 4? 5?
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it was 6 players with 2 on 29 but I agree we didn't have a settled defence that season at all, it was one in and one out injured usually the same match .....
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439575#msg1439575 date=1323252610]
the following season when Rafa took over, we had the worst run of injuries in our footballing history, only 4 players managed to play more than 30 Premiere League games that season through injuries, which is still a 'record' to this day, yet we only finished on 2 points lower than the season before and got to 2 Cup Finals ......
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Yes, true. As I said I am not slagging off Benitez.
But its not as if Houllier's last season was plain sailing either. I think only 5 players got over 30 league games then. And how many games have we had Gerrard fit this season? 4? 5?
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it was 6 players with 2 on 29 but I agree we didn't have a settled defence that season at all, it was one in and one out injured usually the same match .....
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=47803.msg1439590#msg1439590 date=1323253682]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439588#msg1439588 date=1323253614]
Yeah Torres Macherano Alonso Reina Garcia Sissoko Crouch Agger Bellemy Kuyt Arbeloa Lucas Benyoun Rodreguez Johnson even Shelvey, if only he had bought better ......
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How many of those came in the last 2-3 windows?
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the last 2-3 windows was when we didn't buy, we made 3 profits on transfers, the Yanks closed the purse string, just when we needed that tiny bit extra to set us up ....
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439588#msg1439588 date=1323253614]
Yeah Torres Macherano Alonso Reina Garcia Sissoko Crouch Agger Bellemy Kuyt Arbeloa Lucas Benyoun Rodreguez Johnson even Shelvey, if only he had bought better ......
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How many of those came in the last 2-3 windows?
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the last 2-3 windows was when we didn't buy, we made 3 profits on transfers, the Yanks closed the purse string, just when we needed that tiny bit extra to set us up ....
Maybe i got the number of windows incorrect (sorry) , but this was the period i was referring to.
Philipp Degen
Andrea Dossena 7mil
Diego Cavalier
David N'Gog
Robbie Keane 19mil
Albert Riera
Glen Johnson 17.5
Alberto Aquilani 17mil
Sotirios Kyrgiakos
Daniel Ayala
Maxi Rodriguez
Jonjo Shelvey
Milan Jovanovic
Philipp Degen
Andrea Dossena 7mil
Diego Cavalier
David N'Gog
Robbie Keane 19mil
Albert Riera
Glen Johnson 17.5
Alberto Aquilani 17mil
Sotirios Kyrgiakos
Daniel Ayala
Maxi Rodriguez
Jonjo Shelvey
Milan Jovanovic
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439602#msg1439602 date=1323254746]
I don't think any manager in the history of football has ever made 100% correct transfers over his tenure
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Yeah you're right mate, but when money is tight and then you go through a period of wasting what you have, then serious questions will be asked.
I love the man and pretty much backed him until the end, but when you look at those signings you can see he didn't help himself.
Looking back though, it's almost laughable that we replaced him with Roy.
I don't think any manager in the history of football has ever made 100% correct transfers over his tenure
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Yeah you're right mate, but when money is tight and then you go through a period of wasting what you have, then serious questions will be asked.
I love the man and pretty much backed him until the end, but when you look at those signings you can see he didn't help himself.
Looking back though, it's almost laughable that we replaced him with Roy.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439603#msg1439603 date=1323254802]
Anyway this wasn't about Rafa (again) we did him 2 years ago, this was about some pillock saying Kenny should go .....
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Exactly. The reason Benitez came up again was because by this stage in his first season he'd done little or no better.
So really it wasn't an attack on Benitez at all, as it was essentially saying that we would have been wrong to get rid of Benitez based on that, just as we would be wrong to get rid of Dalglish now
Anyway this wasn't about Rafa (again) we did him 2 years ago, this was about some pillock saying Kenny should go .....
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Exactly. The reason Benitez came up again was because by this stage in his first season he'd done little or no better.
So really it wasn't an attack on Benitez at all, as it was essentially saying that we would have been wrong to get rid of Benitez based on that, just as we would be wrong to get rid of Dalglish now
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439603#msg1439603 date=1323254802]
Anyway this wasn't about Rafa (again) we did him 2 years ago, this was about some pillock saying Kenny should go .....
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i'm close to wanting kenny gone myself tbh. He seems to be playing with some bizarre mentality that i don't appreciate. His subs tend to be massively wank and too late i nthe game. He seems insistent on playing his signings instead of sticking with the players who play well together.
If its part of a grand vision thn fine, but i'm getting frustrated.
If people disagree i don't give a toss, but at the minute he comes from high highs to low lows.
Anyway this wasn't about Rafa (again) we did him 2 years ago, this was about some pillock saying Kenny should go .....
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i'm close to wanting kenny gone myself tbh. He seems to be playing with some bizarre mentality that i don't appreciate. His subs tend to be massively wank and too late i nthe game. He seems insistent on playing his signings instead of sticking with the players who play well together.
If its part of a grand vision thn fine, but i'm getting frustrated.
If people disagree i don't give a toss, but at the minute he comes from high highs to low lows.
I think he is of the view that his new signing will click the more they play together, and the sooner they click the better.
Ideally he should give them an hour every game and then bring on the subs to help us win the points, but Football never works like that does it, he is stuck between a rock and a hard place ...
Ideally he should give them an hour every game and then bring on the subs to help us win the points, but Football never works like that does it, he is stuck between a rock and a hard place ...
We are playing much better football this season under Kenny than we did under Rafa in the first season. If we could finish we would be challenging for the title and we routinely restrict opponents to very few shots on target (Monday aside).
I don't want to get into the Rafa debate because both sides aren't going to change stance now, but I fail to see why people can't see the positives of the way we play now and some want Kenny gone. We've come on leaps and bounds in performance, it should be a matter of time before results follow. That will happen as soon as we start finishing some of the bags of chances we create.
Carroll and Downing aside, and maybe Maxi, I don't think Kenny has done a lot wrong at all.
I don't want to get into the Rafa debate because both sides aren't going to change stance now, but I fail to see why people can't see the positives of the way we play now and some want Kenny gone. We've come on leaps and bounds in performance, it should be a matter of time before results follow. That will happen as soon as we start finishing some of the bags of chances we create.
Carroll and Downing aside, and maybe Maxi, I don't think Kenny has done a lot wrong at all.
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[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439603#msg1439603 date=1323254802]
Anyway this wasn't about Rafa (again) we did him 2 years ago, this was about some pillock saying Kenny should go .....
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i'm close to wanting kenny gone myself tbh. He seems to be playing with some bizarre mentality that i don't appreciate. His subs tend to be massively wank and too late i nthe game. He seems insistent on playing his signings instead of sticking with the players who play well together.
If its part of a grand vision thn fine, but i'm getting frustrated.
If people disagree i don't give a toss, but at the minute he comes from high highs to low lows.
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[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47803.msg1439603#msg1439603 date=1323254802]
Anyway this wasn't about Rafa (again) we did him 2 years ago, this was about some pillock saying Kenny should go .....
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i'm close to wanting kenny gone myself tbh. He seems to be playing with some bizarre mentality that i don't appreciate. His subs tend to be massively wank and too late i nthe game. He seems insistent on playing his signings instead of sticking with the players who play well together.
If its part of a grand vision thn fine, but i'm getting frustrated.
If people disagree i don't give a toss, but at the minute he comes from high highs to low lows.
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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47803.msg1439579#msg1439579 date=1323252868]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
That's not what you said, but fair enough.
I personally don't care how we qualify for Europe, and certainly wouldn't put qualifying by winning the competition as a negative.
He was one of our most successful managers, and I hope Kenny can be as successful for us.
I personally don't care how we qualify for Europe, and certainly wouldn't put qualifying by winning the competition as a negative.
He was one of our most successful managers, and I hope Kenny can be as successful for us.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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Your confusing bias with facts, the haters make shit up about great squads left to him, his wasting money and leaving us with a 1st division type squad ......
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I think I could take any one of your posts on this page (and there are plenty of them) as an example of a completely unbalanced perspective.
How about your post regarding the squad GH left. I don't know if anyone is suggesting that Rafa left a worse squad than GH - which I personally don't agree with - but your assesment of the squad at the beginning of 04/05 is pitiful.
To start with the backline of Carra, Sami, Henchoz, Finnan, Riise was something that Rafa decided had to be improved and so wasted millions without ever achieving it. He tried to replace Finnan several times when the neighbours dog knew we needed a right wing. He tried to replace Riise and Hyppia and cost us games each time.
Then there was a midfield that had Gerrard and Didi. There wasn't much else in the middle though Kewell, Smicer and Murphy all clearly had their strong points.
A strike force of Owen, Baros and Heskey wasn't the best in world football but it was nothing to be dismissed at the time either. Line that strike force up with what Rafa left - Torres, Kuyt and N'Gog.
As I say, I think we were stronger at the end of '09 than at the end of '04 but there certainly wasn't as much in it as you or your RCDNW card carrying chums would have us believe.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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Your confusing bias with facts, the haters make shit up about great squads left to him, his wasting money and leaving us with a 1st division type squad ......
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I think I could take any one of your posts on this page (and there are plenty of them) as an example of a completely unbalanced perspective.
How about your post regarding the squad GH left. I don't know if anyone is suggesting that Rafa left a worse squad than GH - which I personally don't agree with - but your assesment of the squad at the beginning of 04/05 is pitiful.
To start with the backline of Carra, Sami, Henchoz, Finnan, Riise was something that Rafa decided had to be improved and so wasted millions without ever achieving it. He tried to replace Finnan several times when the neighbours dog knew we needed a right wing. He tried to replace Riise and Hyppia and cost us games each time.
Then there was a midfield that had Gerrard and Didi. There wasn't much else in the middle though Kewell, Smicer and Murphy all clearly had their strong points.
A strike force of Owen, Baros and Heskey wasn't the best in world football but it was nothing to be dismissed at the time either. Line that strike force up with what Rafa left - Torres, Kuyt and N'Gog.
As I say, I think we were stronger at the end of '09 than at the end of '04 but there certainly wasn't as much in it as you or your RCDNW card carrying chums would have us believe.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47803.msg1439663#msg1439663 date=1323262933]
That's not what you said, but fair enough.
I personally don't care how we qualify for Europe, and certainly wouldn't put qualifying by winning the competition as a negative.
He was one of our most successful managers, and I hope Kenny can be as successful for us.
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Kenny's already been a more successful manager for us - but I know what you mean.
That's not what you said, but fair enough.
I personally don't care how we qualify for Europe, and certainly wouldn't put qualifying by winning the competition as a negative.
He was one of our most successful managers, and I hope Kenny can be as successful for us.
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Kenny's already been a more successful manager for us - but I know what you mean.
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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47803.msg1439579#msg1439579 date=1323252868]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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That would be a finalist in the "utterly irrelevant and unrelated posts" competition of any site.
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[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47803.msg1439579#msg1439579 date=1323252868]
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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That would be a finalist in the "utterly irrelevant and unrelated posts" competition of any site.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439660#msg1439660 date=1323262383]
He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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Except our run into becoming Champions of Europe did adversely affect our league results because towards the end of that season, we rested our better players in the league before CL matches. You can't really say one competition had nothing to do with the other because our squad wasn't strong enough to compete for them both.
Rafa was right to target the CL over 4th in the league, wouldn't you say? If you agree with that, then it's unfair to beat him up for finishing 5th at the expense of winning Big Ears.
He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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Except our run into becoming Champions of Europe did adversely affect our league results because towards the end of that season, we rested our better players in the league before CL matches. You can't really say one competition had nothing to do with the other because our squad wasn't strong enough to compete for them both.
Rafa was right to target the CL over 4th in the league, wouldn't you say? If you agree with that, then it's unfair to beat him up for finishing 5th at the expense of winning Big Ears.
I think Rafa was pretty good in the transfer marker when he was allowed to go big, most of our expensive signings increased significantly in value. Rafa was a bit more shite when he had to gamble and look for freebies and bargains.
I would love to know what our team would be like this season if Rafa had been in charge and had that money.
I would love to know what our team would be like this season if Rafa had been in charge and had that money.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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That would be a finalist in the "utterly irrelevant and unrelated posts" competition of any site.
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Tell me how you get 60% qualifying succes from that genius? You even stated 50% qualifying succes originally !
He failed to qualify ONCE and got sacked
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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That would be a finalist in the "utterly irrelevant and unrelated posts" competition of any site.
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Tell me how you get 60% qualifying succes from that genius? You even stated 50% qualifying succes originally !
He failed to qualify ONCE and got sacked
Wizardry, if you're gonna try to be a smartarse at least get the most basic of facts right. he had 6 seasons, not 5, and came top 4 4 out of 6, not 3 of 5. one of the other seasons we qualified by winning the competition, and would probably have finished 4th had we not had such an almighty distraction in the latter part of the season, with a small and poor quality squad.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=47803.msg1439534#msg1439534 date=1323241469]
Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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That would be a finalist in the "utterly irrelevant and unrelated posts" competition of any site.
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Tell me how you get 60% qualifying succes from that genius? You even stated 50% qualifying succes originally !
He failed to qualify ONCE and got sacked
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Heh, you're becoming laughable in this thread at the moment Asbo. If you read the post it actually spells it out.
Rafa qualified through league position 3 times out of 5. As I've already stated I took it on league position for the frighteningly obvious and simple reason that it's league form and performance that the thread is discussing. Novel, I know.
As for your "You even stated 50% qualifying succes(sic) originally" .... words fail me. I didn't state it, I didn't edit the post after stating it, I didn't even think it. My 5 year old son didn't even think it. But, again, don't let that get in the way of your stories. You've managed to ignore "facts" or just make them up when you needed thus far so why would you stop now?
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Europe is great and in that competition Rafa is great but he only managed to qualify us there 60% of the time.
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I may be missing something here, but he qualified us for Europe 100% of the time, and only missed out on the Champions League in his final season, which he got sacked for.
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He had 5 seasons with us Gerry and finished in the top 4 on 3 occasions. That would mean 3 out of 5 which translates to, roughly, 60%.
No, I have not forgotten that as champions we were in the CL the next season but that had nothing to do with our league performance which is what the thread is, after all, supposedly about.
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2004-05 Won the CL League Cup Finalists
2005-06 Qualified as Champions FA Cup Winners
2006-07 CL Finals
2007-08 CL Semi finals
2008-09 CL 1/4 finals
2009-10 CL drop out in group phase Europa League semi finalists
Sacked for European final getter goer 'I will steady the ship' Roy Fucking Hodgeson
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That would be a finalist in the "utterly irrelevant and unrelated posts" competition of any site.
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Tell me how you get 60% qualifying succes from that genius? You even stated 50% qualifying succes originally !
He failed to qualify ONCE and got sacked
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Heh, you're becoming laughable in this thread at the moment Asbo. If you read the post it actually spells it out.
Rafa qualified through league position 3 times out of 5. As I've already stated I took it on league position for the frighteningly obvious and simple reason that it's league form and performance that the thread is discussing. Novel, I know.
As for your "You even stated 50% qualifying succes(sic) originally" .... words fail me. I didn't state it, I didn't edit the post after stating it, I didn't even think it. My 5 year old son didn't even think it. But, again, don't let that get in the way of your stories. You've managed to ignore "facts" or just make them up when you needed thus far so why would you stop now?
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