2-2 vs Man City, After Game Thoughts
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Ryan will kill you.
They were probably asking his advice or his help in sorting something.
I thought the team played well. Sterling impressed me with the way he played. At one stage the Greek commentator called him 'The little kid', not in a bad way of course.
Very positive performance that bodes well for the future.
Very encouraged by the performances from Shelvey, Sterling & Coates - if they can come in and play like that against Man City, then they can go and make a name for themselves at Anfield.
Allen has slotted in like he's ben there his whole life. Can't wait to see him and Sahin together.
Don't think it was one of Suarez's better days - he was over-cooking things more often than not, but he worked hard, never stopped trying and the freekick was top drawer.
Borrini hasn't settled in yet - he wasn't bad - just not particularly good. You can see his movement is good and the effort is there, along with an understanding of his role - but he'll need a little bit more time.
One of the things I am delighted about is that Rogers is absolutely going to do things his way... and he has no fear about playing or dropping whomever he wants to, to achieve his vision.
Very encouraged by the performances from Shelvey, Sterling & Coates - if they can come in and play like that against Man City, then they can go and make a name for themselves at Anfield.
Allen has slotted in like he's ben there his whole life. Can't wait to see him and Sahin together.
Don't think it was one of Suarez's better days - he was over-cooking things more often than not, but he worked hard, never stopped trying and the freekick was top drawer.
Borrini hasn't settled in yet - he wasn't bad - just not particularly good. You can see his movement is good and the effort is there, along with an understanding of his role - but he'll need a little bit more time.
One of the things I am delighted about is that Rogers is absolutely going to do things his way... and he has no fear about playing or dropping whomever he wants to, to achieve his vision.
Sky Sports Report :
Steven Gerrard gave Liverpool fans hope that he's not an old dog incapable of learning new tricks by putting himself at the heart of everything that was incisive about Liverpool.
Very strong performance. The guys worked hard and it should haave paid better off. We were let down by poor finnishing and a couple of gifts (heard that one before!!)
Enrique looked fresh when he came on, and so did Andy. Gerrard is not 100% fit it seems. But he improved during the game. Allen was very good, and so was Sterling. Shelvey did a mans job, and we really outplayed their midfield in periods. Very strong performance. A pity about the result, but it will come next weekend.
Enrique looked fresh when he came on, and so did Andy. Gerrard is not 100% fit it seems. But he improved during the game. Allen was very good, and so was Sterling. Shelvey did a mans job, and we really outplayed their midfield in periods. Very strong performance. A pity about the result, but it will come next weekend.
Sorry Fabs - I don't often (ever) disagree with stuff you post but I will with this. Gerrard was awesome. His role after Lucas came off in the first few minutes was so different to what he would normally play. He adapted - So did the team and imo it was down to Gerrard that we played so well.
See, Allen played deepest after lucas went off and had to do more work, yet he did everything. He was fantastic. Gerrard for me moved about in the middle, not overly getting involved. Allen did a majority of the passing and shelvey did a lot of the grunt work.
Gerrard was involved first half, but progressively got less involved. I made a comment earlier saying that we might be at the stage point where Gerrard needs to be getting subbed at the 70min mark.
The player of the match thread shows Allen and shelvey were continually picked as our best players today. If Gerrard was that instrumental, why is he being placed behind others?
Jonjo Shelvey @shelveyJ
Just wanna say that atmosphere was incredible today .. The best feeling ever playing for this club an absolute honour#YNWA
Just wanna say that atmosphere was incredible today .. The best feeling ever playing for this club an absolute honour
Epileptic fit in 5, 4, 3, .......
Hmmmm
Hmmmm I understand why you think that. Allen rightly got the motm - But Gerrard was so selfless with his performance. I'm a geeky bugger and have watched the match again (and will again on motd2) I stand by my opinion about Gerrard. He was not the 'Hollywood' Gerrard we all know and love. This was a more seasoned and (I hate to say it) mature performance.
Exactly. I think we are so used to seeing gerrard running all over the place that when he doesn't we think he's had a bad game. It wasn't that at all, to me he was using his energy wisely and running when he had to rather than all the time. In fact i remember him chasing back the city winger in the 80min i think so he was definitely still running after the 70th min. He put in a team performance rather than a gerrard performance. He did a lot of selfless work.
I am not harsh on Sterling. Just my observation how easily he was shaken off the ball, bullied by Kompany, in the second half. Raw is not necessary bad either, lots of raw energy. If Rodgers can channel him well, bulk him up a bit, obviously he is the future of LFC. Exciting nerveless player. 17 year old kid with a 25 year old football brain.
I just recall him being quite wasteful today. I think his "restrained" performance is him knowing his body isn't up to scratch, so is pushing himself less than he used to
Which is fine, I'm ok if that's the reason. I. I just happy we've sorted sahin
Which is fine, I'm ok if that's the reason. I. I just happy we've sorted sahin
Much better game from Shelvey today after a torrid time in his last outing. It was nice to have so many good passers occupying our midfield. There was a real sense that they could create something today. Foiled by individual errors but massively encouraging in terms of the direction of the team.
How's the movement off the ball been?
Is it pass and move or pass and stand still, receive the ball in exactly the same position, pass back to the centre back?
Is it pass and move or pass and stand still, receive the ball in exactly the same position, pass back to the centre back?
The former, way better movement than last season.
The only caveat is that is Liverpool always performed against the bigger teams. Have to see the same movement against the smaller teams.
Fucking this.
True, we played some decent stuff under Kenny at times, but then resorted back to being frustratingly static with alarming regularity
Hi All
First of all LeTallecWiz - great idea to have this conversation in a seperate thread/topic.
Ok - as you all know I had skid marks before watching this game, was really afraid of what might happen (was thinking we may lose 3-0, 4-0). Now, for my observations - it was really refreshing to see BR choosing a team that most of us would agree with, and I suspect to implement his philosophy you need to have more youth than older players given the work rate and pace that would be required. When we needed to we pressed hard in the final third which we did not do too often last season, and there were more players in and around the opposition box than last season. It was clear to see that every player was trying to keep the ball and pass it constantly to the point where the mistake by Skrtel took place. However, I was mentally prepared from the start that that type of error may happen when trying to force this new system into place, so in actual effect I was not that surprised, and it may happen again a few times before we get things properly working. As Leo has mentioned I think there is a question mark of Enrique's position leading upto Skrtel's error - he had no other clear optons to pass to, and its something the team must always remember in this new system - every player needs to have a minium of 2 optional passes.
I thought Shelvy did well when he came on for Lucas, and the team adapted well eventually in the first half when Lucas had to come off because there was a period in the first half when we were adjusting and Man City had the ball quite a bit. Allen was magnificant - and it was like having Xabi back but younger and faster. Sterling was very good and effective, Suarez found it difficult and made it difficult for himself at times when good passing options were available to him. SG had a good game overall but nearly always seemed to drift in and out of the game. Coates did really well, and I was pleased with what Kelly did and don't think the first goal was his fault at all - the ball just slammed into his belly and landed at the feet of the scorer - nothing he could do and I think BR took him off as being young it could have affected him mentally.
Glen Johnson (boss of the left and right today) - was our most consistent player today along with Allen. However, I know Borini has only played 2 PL games but he seems very limited as a player as much as Andy Carroll is in my view, yes he does a lot of running but is it doing us much good up front ? I still think we have big problems up front in that final third in that we are not creating really clear-cut chances - nearly always there are three or more defenders there, perhaps its the new system, but it does worry me that our goals only came from set pieces and not open play today. There does not seem to be the ability in this team as we were able to do with GH, and Rafa to get situations of one on one/two defenders - we always seem to be up against an entire defensive line. So the penetration aspect of our game still needs huge improvements if we are to succeed.
I am happy with the result as I genuinely believed we were going to lose.
Regards,
MORON
First of all LeTallecWiz - great idea to have this conversation in a seperate thread/topic.
Ok - as you all know I had skid marks before watching this game, was really afraid of what might happen (was thinking we may lose 3-0, 4-0). Now, for my observations - it was really refreshing to see BR choosing a team that most of us would agree with, and I suspect to implement his philosophy you need to have more youth than older players given the work rate and pace that would be required. When we needed to we pressed hard in the final third which we did not do too often last season, and there were more players in and around the opposition box than last season. It was clear to see that every player was trying to keep the ball and pass it constantly to the point where the mistake by Skrtel took place. However, I was mentally prepared from the start that that type of error may happen when trying to force this new system into place, so in actual effect I was not that surprised, and it may happen again a few times before we get things properly working. As Leo has mentioned I think there is a question mark of Enrique's position leading upto Skrtel's error - he had no other clear optons to pass to, and its something the team must always remember in this new system - every player needs to have a minium of 2 optional passes.
I thought Shelvy did well when he came on for Lucas, and the team adapted well eventually in the first half when Lucas had to come off because there was a period in the first half when we were adjusting and Man City had the ball quite a bit. Allen was magnificant - and it was like having Xabi back but younger and faster. Sterling was very good and effective, Suarez found it difficult and made it difficult for himself at times when good passing options were available to him. SG had a good game overall but nearly always seemed to drift in and out of the game. Coates did really well, and I was pleased with what Kelly did and don't think the first goal was his fault at all - the ball just slammed into his belly and landed at the feet of the scorer - nothing he could do and I think BR took him off as being young it could have affected him mentally.
Glen Johnson (boss of the left and right today) - was our most consistent player today along with Allen. However, I know Borini has only played 2 PL games but he seems very limited as a player as much as Andy Carroll is in my view, yes he does a lot of running but is it doing us much good up front ? I still think we have big problems up front in that final third in that we are not creating really clear-cut chances - nearly always there are three or more defenders there, perhaps its the new system, but it does worry me that our goals only came from set pieces and not open play today. There does not seem to be the ability in this team as we were able to do with GH, and Rafa to get situations of one on one/two defenders - we always seem to be up against an entire defensive line. So the penetration aspect of our game still needs huge improvements if we are to succeed.
I am happy with the result as I genuinely believed we were going to lose.
Regards,
MORON
Yes, Sunderland looks to me like the big test early on. But it's always good to see a good performance against the top teams and today's was splendid.
The Beano>^^^^^
Sunderland will be a big test for us - becuase its a team instructed by O'Neil, and they always provide a good test. However, what I want to see is how well we do against the big teams when away from home. Hopefully there will be an improvement there - we did well against Arsenal, and Chelsea last season.
Does anyone actually read Moron's longer posts?
You should - it will educate you.
It will teach me to be a long winded fuckwit?
I gave up when I read this:
"]I thought when I first saw it in the game - it hit his belly and just landed at the feet of the scorer but looking at it again - I still don't think its his fault, it just hit his thigh and bounced to far away to quickly for him to do anything. NOT KELLY's Fault.[/quote]
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