He joined a shitshow mid season. What do you expect?
I still have hope. Give him the same fucking time you give other players underachieving.
For us to do that, he has to show something
He joined a shitshow mid season. What do you expect?
I still have hope. Give him the same fucking time you give other players underachieving.
I know, was just having a laugh. But I'm also fairly sure a 35 year old Tadic would have had more of an impact
This is it. He’s done NOTHING in four games. That Ukrainian lad showed glimpses. Gakpoo hasn’t.For us to do that, he has to show something
He joined a shitshow mid season. What do you expect?
I still have hope. Give him the same fucking time you give other players underachieving.
No we can't, he don't even look like he is trying, a run seems like a jog, we slate TAA for that type of running, this guy is new and does not look like he is even trying. If he is trying, it's well below the level of player we expect at LFC and even for his price tag.
For us to do that, he has to show something
Still 4 games. Going from the Dutch league to the Prem isn't an easy transition.Some flashes of brilliance. A control, a piece of skill, take on a defender. Whenever an attacker is being praised for "linking up" and "layoff", it means he has nothing else to show. The same as praising a midfielder for "keeping it simple".
Also, a Klopp attacker cannot just keep it simple. Normally he expects the attacker to take on responsibility, and create chances, and goals in crowded spaces.
Gakpo seems more Markovic than Mane.
It's fucking amazing ... Jones, Carvalho, even Ox. (after 4-5 years) get more support than players that have been here 5 mins (Nunez, Gakpo) and have been dropped into a non-functioning team. Pathetic moaning cunts.He joined a shitshow mid season. What do you expect?
I still have hope. Give him the same fucking time you give other players underachieving.
I'm fine with moaning, I'm probably one of the worst at it, I'm just venting. But I haven't written anyone off after only playing a few games.It's fucking amazing ... Jones, Carvalho, even Ox. (after 4-5 years) get more support than players that have been here 5 mins (Nunez, Gakpo) and have been dropped into a non-functioning team. Pathetic moaning cunts.
I don't think you've been paying attention Jan ... even in just this thread !I don't think anyone's writing him off or not giving him time. It's just that he was supposed to be this flashy goal scoring winger but he has looked about as adventurous as Damien Plessis so far
It's fucking amazing ... Jones, Carvalho, even Ox. (after 4-5 years) get more support than players that have been here 5 mins (Nunez, Gakpo) and have been dropped into a non-functioning team. Pathetic moaning cunts.
We just want something to get excited about. He’s done nothing.I don't think anyone's writing him off or not giving him time. It's just that he was supposed to be this flashy goal scoring winger but he has looked about as adventurous as Damien Plessis so far
I completely agree with the bolded bit ... but that's not Gakpo's fault. Gakpo has played 172 mins + whatever he had today in a dysfunctional team. His ratings have been well below those for the NL (where he looked very good in the WC) or for PSV but there are clearly mitigating factors for that. I have no idea if he's going to work out or not but let's give the lad our support and at least give him a fair crack of the whip instead of the pathetic bleating we're seeing more and more of on this forum.TBF Ox was fucking magic when he joined. He's just been ruined by injuries. He's got credit in the bank. Jones gets shit every time he comes on. Fabio at least gets shots on target and won us a game, and looked decent in parts.
Gakpo hasn't shown us a single thing.
I'm sure he'll turn it round, but when we've just spent what seems to be our entire budget on an area we didn't need to improve when we have such glaring holes in our team; I can get the very short patience
I don't need to have 'been at the match' (WTAF, fucking knobhead) to see that the lad has some good attributes, I watched all the NL matches at the WC, he was very good, and of course we can see from his highlight reel that he has skills (to say nothing of being both top scorer and top assists in the Eredivisie this season). I suggest you search them out.Frogfish what is it that you've seen in his game that gives you cause to believe in him ? Tell me because we could do with some optimism right now.
I don't need to have 'been at the match' (WTAF, fucking knobhead) to see that the lad has some good attributes, I watched all the NL matches at the WC, he was very good, and of course we can see from his highlight reel that he has skills (to say nothing of being both top scorer and top assists in the Eredivisie this season). I suggest you search them out.
I've no idea if eventually that'll translate into being a top player for us - I just know that the LFC Scouts know a helluva lot more than "look at me I was at the match but still know fuck all' types, so one would assume they believe he'll be a fit. I'd just like people to give him that chance before laying into him after literally just 250 mins or whatever it is.
He joined a shitshow mid season. What do you expect?
I still have hope. Give him the same fucking time you give other players underachieving.
I've no idea if eventually that'll translate into being a top player for us - I just know that the LFC Scouts know a helluva lot more than "look at me I was at the match but still know fuck all' types, so one would assume they believe he'll be a fit.
In the other thread 🙄He never said that? Why are you calling him a fucking nobhead? He asked you a simple question.
So these lfc scouts who know so much more Than us won't make mistakes... That's good to know...I don't need to have 'been at the match' (WTAF, fucking knobhead) to see that the lad has some good attributes, I watched all the NL matches at the WC, he was very good, and of course we can see from his highlight reel that he has skills (to say nothing of being both top scorer and top assists in the Eredivisie this season). I suggest you search them out.
I've no idea if eventually that'll translate into being a top player for us - I just know that the LFC Scouts know a helluva lot more than "look at me I was at the match but still know fuck all' types, so one would assume they believe he'll be a fit. I'd just like people to give him that chance before laying into him after literally just 250 mins or whatever it is.
I'll come back to the brigade having made their minds up after just 250 mins of football. The scouts don't always get it right but how many times have you read here, over the past few years, on how good they have been?That is a bit of a cop-out. Yes, I would assume they would know more than random posters on SCM. But that doesn't mean we cannot voice our opinion and concern. I am concerned he is not showing any evidence of being a world-class attacker in an LFC shirt. I am not expecting him to dominate games or score a hattrick. I am looking for a piece of skill, vision
If we are going for the LFC scouts know more than us argument, then we might as well shut down discussions on this forum. Coz, LFC scouts, coaches, manager definitely know more than us. So why even discuss signings, tactics, midfield.
then check out his WC matches or Highlight Reel, whilst obviously not conclusive they'll be a lot more instructive than 250 mins in a dysfunctional Liverpool team.I am looking for a piece of skill, vision
See post I just made above to Peekay.So these lfc scouts who know so much more Than us won't make mistakes... That's good to know...
Do agree though anyone judging him already is a bit premature but saying that you can see why people are getting a bit worried. He has been totally anonymous and his shooting has been worse than bad but as you said trying to come and shine in this team atm is expecting a bit much
I'll come back to the brigade having made their minds up after just 250 mins of football. The scouts don't always get it right but how many times have you read here, over the past few years, on how good they have been?
Yet now half this forum can't even give a 'proven' quality player, who the scouting dept (and one assumes that includes Klopp) must have researched in depth, more than a few minutes, and God forbid half a season or more. No way, 250 mins is more than enough time for forumites to form a conclusive assessment. Fickle Twitterati have nothing on this forum at times.
If then check out his WC matches or Highlight Reel, whilst obviously not conclusive they'll be a lot more instructive than 250 mins in a dysfunctional Liverpool team.