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Not that I can find after spending half the morning trawling the Net. I don't think any of us has assumed that was happening. Sorry if any of my posts suggested otherwise.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42145.msg1188926#msg1188926 date=1286274474]
[quote author=Ossi link=topic=42145.msg1188863#msg1188863 date=1286268343]
Laudrup? What has he won as manager? Nothing worth mentioning (wasn´t that why you didn´t want Roy, KHL)?

I´d go for Loew.
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The reason I wasn't too excited about the Roy-appointment was down to a mixture of his age and his managerial experience at highest level which was next to zero. Not that he hasn't won anything because he has - in Denmark and Sweden at least.

Laudrup hasn't been tested at highest level (as a manager) either but beeing the icon that he is combined with his footballing philosophy makes him a very interesting prospect IMO. The fact that he did a great job with Brøndby (made them Danish Champions) and Getafe (UEFA quarter and Spanish Cup-final) and now has started well at Mallorca at least indicates he gets the work done. And as he's almost 20-years-younger than Roy too whilst having a great name in the game I reckon we'd be much better suited with him in the manager-seat.
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So the difference is...his age and that he was a good player. Hmm...
 
No need to apologise JJ!
I was just wanting to know how attached we could get to the idea of 'Roy Out: Kenny In'
 
I wouldn't yet. For all the reasons to take action, the current board appointed Roy and won't want to be seen to admit so soon that they made a mistake. They might yet have to do so, but there's no question they'll be reluctant. My bet is he'll get another three or four games minimum.
 
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=42145.msg1188926#msg1188926 date=1286274474]
[quote author=Ossi link=topic=42145.msg1188863#msg1188863 date=1286268343]
Laudrup? What has he won as manager? Nothing worth mentioning (wasn´t that why you didn´t want Roy, KHL)?

I´d go for Loew.
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The reason I wasn't too excited about the Roy-appointment was down to a mixture of his age and his managerial experience at highest level which was next to zero. Not that he hasn't won anything because he has - in Denmark and Sweden at least.

Laudrup hasn't been tested at highest level (as a manager) either but beeing the icon that he is combined with his footballing philosophy makes him a very interesting prospect IMO. The fact that he did a great job with Brøndby (made them Danish Champions) and Getafe (UEFA quarter and Spanish Cup-final) and now has started well at Mallorca at least indicates he gets the work done. And as he's almost 20-years-younger than Roy too whilst having a great name in the game I reckon we'd be much better suited with him in the manager-seat.
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So the difference is...his age and that he was a good player. Hmm...
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And his iconic status and footballing philosophy too, but yeah that's about it.

Joachim Löw as mentioned who is another interesting prospect hasn't exactly set the world alight as a club-manager either. He's done a great job with Germany but the main reason why you'd chose him is down to his aparent positive philosophy with Germany and well-respected name I'd take it?

Not because he once managed Austria Vienna.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42145.msg1188957#msg1188957 date=1286276952]
I wouldn't yet. For all the reasons to take action, the current board appointed Roy and won't want to be seen to admit so soon that they made a mistake. They might yet have to do so, but there's no question they'll be reluctant. My bet is he'll get another three or four games minimum.
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The Everton game coming at this point could be rather crucial however.

The pressure would be massive should we lose that one whilst still be sitting tight in the relegation zone. It would then be 8 games with a record of 1 win, 3 draws and 4 loses.

I've been all for at least giving Roy untill Christmas but it could be turning out rather grim should we lose against Everton especially if we're not immediatedly bouncing back.
 
Roy's going to be around for far longer than most of you want.

I'd get used to it for the time being.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42145.msg1188957#msg1188957 date=1286276952]
I wouldn't yet. For all the reasons to take action, the current board appointed Roy and won't want to be seen to admit so soon that they made a mistake. They might yet have to do so, but there's no question they'll be reluctant. My bet is he'll get another three or four games minimum.
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yep, 3 games i reckon, which are all winnable. 4 points absolute minimum, anything less and i don't think the board will really have any choice, that's being generous and would also have to include much-improved performances if not results.
 
I may get slaughtered for this but what are the British fans' opinion of managers like Doncaster's Sean O'Driscoll and Bournemouth's Eddie Howe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2010/oct/05/bournemouth-football-league-eddie-howe)?

They're no big names but as a foreigner with an interest of the footballing scene as a whole, I've been impressed with what they've achieved and what I've read abt them. Of cos, the fact that they've never manage big clubs and in the Premier League makes chances even lower. Just a thought though. 😛
 
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[quote author=Ossi link=topic=42145.msg1188951#msg1188951 date=1286276552]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=42145.msg1188926#msg1188926 date=1286274474]
[quote author=Ossi link=topic=42145.msg1188863#msg1188863 date=1286268343]
Laudrup? What has he won as manager? Nothing worth mentioning (wasn´t that why you didn´t want Roy, KHL)?

I´d go for Loew.
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The reason I wasn't too excited about the Roy-appointment was down to a mixture of his age and his managerial experience at highest level which was next to zero. Not that he hasn't won anything because he has - in Denmark and Sweden at least.

Laudrup hasn't been tested at highest level (as a manager) either but beeing the icon that he is combined with his footballing philosophy makes him a very interesting prospect IMO. The fact that he did a great job with Brøndby (made them Danish Champions) and Getafe (UEFA quarter and Spanish Cup-final) and now has started well at Mallorca at least indicates he gets the work done. And as he's almost 20-years-younger than Roy too whilst having a great name in the game I reckon we'd be much better suited with him in the manager-seat.
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So the difference is...his age and that he was a good player. Hmm...
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And his iconic status and footballing philosophy too, but yeah that's about it.

Joachim Löw as mentioned who is another interesting prospect hasn't exactly set the world alight as a club-manager either. He's done a great job with Germany but the main reason why you'd chose him is down to his aparent positive philosophy with Germany and well-respected name I'd take it?

Not because he once managed Austria Vienna.
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It was you who brought up the club aspect (in which there are not any bigger differences between Laudrup and Roy)- not me. 😉

I like the way Germany plays and I don´t think our squad need a big revamp for his style.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42145.msg1188947#msg1188947 date=1286276392]
Is there any indication that Roy is actually on his way out and that Kenny is about to be appointed?
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Have you seen the league table?
 
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42145.msg1188947#msg1188947 date=1286276392]
Is there any indication that Roy is actually on his way out and that Kenny is about to be appointed?
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Have you seen the league table?
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still (unfortunately) doesn't mean roy is going to get sacked, however if liverpool lose to everton I think he will be shown the door.

* waves blue scarf*



joking! JOKING!!! 😛
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42145.msg1188975#msg1188975 date=1286278217]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42145.msg1188947#msg1188947 date=1286276392]
Is there any indication that Roy is actually on his way out and that Kenny is about to be appointed?
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Have you seen the league table?
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But Roy have said that there is worse thing than being in the relegation zone. His period in Fulham he faced worse. Then they were in the relegation zone most of the time during one season, while here we have just been there a few rounds.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42145.msg1188975#msg1188975 date=1286278217]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42145.msg1188947#msg1188947 date=1286276392]
Is there any indication that Roy is actually on his way out and that Kenny is about to be appointed?
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Have you seen the league table?
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No, I'm trying to avoid it.
 
It's early days yet but Di Matteo seems to be doing a great job at West Brom. Probably a bit too soon for him, though.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=42145.msg1189017#msg1189017 date=1286281369]
It's early days yet but Di Matteo seems to be doing a great job at West Brom. Probably a bit too soon for him, though.
[/quote]FUCK YES!!

First picture on Goog-

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Grey GREY!! V-neck! There are numerous other pictures of said swarthy latino sex god in various suits (cut immaculately) and shirts and smart jumpers. He's slim and not slovenly!
He's perfect for our next manager. Young! Hungry! and sexy as fuck!

GET HIM IN!
 
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=42145.msg1189063#msg1189063 date=1286284241]
irrelevent.

NEW OWNERS.
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At the end of the day you're probably right.
 
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=42145.msg1189063#msg1189063 date=1286284241]
irrelevent.

NEW OWNERS.
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Certainly the obvious priority. Budgie's the next on the fucking list, though. Then Pursslow and Broughton. Then some players.

All out. All change. Start again.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42145.msg1189073#msg1189073 date=1286284687]
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=42145.msg1189063#msg1189063 date=1286284241]
irrelevent.

NEW OWNERS.
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Certainly the obvious priority. Budgie's the next on the fucking list, though. Then Pursslow and Broughton. Then some players.

All out. All change. Start again.
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Given the fact that we actually has managed to bring in new sponsors, a good kit deal and earning money from replica sale I would like to keep the man in charge of these issues. The rest? bye bye
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42145.msg1188937#msg1188937 date=1286275824]
Some people talk as if we assign Kenny we will need to sign him an assistant able to wheel him around his wheelchair, and ontoher with a hotline to an ambulance ready to pick him up anytime. He aint that old is he? Why is everyone desperate for him to be short term? he might actually win us some games and he might actually convince the underperforming overpaid bastards that we actually are the one club to beat!
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He's younger than Hodgson.

I wanted Dalglish to take over from Benitez and still think he is the only sensible option.

Apart from the fact that he is a proven manager who knows the club, he is already on the payroll!
It cost us money to pay off Benitez, it cost us money to buy out Hodgson's contract from Fulham and it will cost us money to pay him off if we sack him.
We have no money so I doubt we can really stretch to buying out another manager's contract, giving them a big expensive contract and paying for them to bring their own coaching staff in.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=42145.msg1188969#msg1188969 date=1286277927]
I may get slaughtered for this but what are the British fans' opinion of managers like Doncaster's Sean O'Driscoll and Bournemouth's Eddie Howe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2010/oct/05/bournemouth-football-league-eddie-howe)?

They're no big names but as a foreigner with an interest of the footballing scene as a whole, I've been impressed with what they've achieved and what I've read abt them. Of cos, the fact that they've never manage big clubs and in the Premier League makes chances even lower. Just a thought though. 😛
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Both have done remarkably well in recent times and, similar to the likes of Owen Coyle & Ian Holloway, seem to get 100% dedication and effort from their players.

O'Driscoll will get a bigger job soon, maybe Blackpool after we nick Holloway. Howe is very young and has plenty of time on his side, he needs to show he can be a success in the Championship before he gets a gig in the EPL.

Paul Lambert at Norwich is making waves too and could be a Premier league manager sooner rather than later (maybe even with Norwich). If Nigel Adkins can turn Southampton's fortunes around he too will become hot property as he did a fine job with Scunny. And obviously Gus Poyet will soon be mentioned as a possible EPL manager if he continues his impressive work with Brighton.
 
Given the shortage of options we have of who would want to manage us at the moment, I wouldn't be against taking a risk on one of these guys, but it's extremely unlikely.

If the Yanks refinance the only possible change of manager we could get is Dalglish, and even then it seems extremely unlikely to happen. If we get sold then the new owners are going to look to someone more high profile. Not just because hopefully we'll be a more attractive club to both players and managers alike, but because the owners will want to stamp their mark on the club, and I doubt this mark will include searching through the lower divisions for the next up and comer. New owners like big statements, and the manager of Doncaster hardly fits this bill.

I do agree with Brendan and Ross that we need someone young, ambitious; someone who will build a new era; someone who will gut this squad, start afresh and get them playing winning football.

Thankfully it's not my job to find that person.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=42145.msg1188836#msg1188836 date=1286264243]
Carra player manager.
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Maybe alongside Kenny.
 
Rodolfo Borrell? Even though losing him as u-18 coach would be a huge loss to our youth setup but he could be everything we want as manager and if anyone is going to be willing to try the talent we have in our youth ranks you'd have to hope it would be him.
 
I want us to start winning football matches.

Playing the youth 'talent' is a long, long way down my list of priorities.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42145.msg1189302#msg1189302 date=1286307214]
I want us to start winning football matches.

Playing the youth 'talent' is a long, long way down my list of priorities.
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Yep. Priority is this season, get in someone who's hungry and will wipe the dust off the last two decades (with full respect to what success we have had). As said, we need to start afresh, someone who wants to win games, someone who isn't as negative or as much a bottler as the last three managers.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42145.msg1189302#msg1189302 date=1286307214]
I want us to start winning football matches.

Playing the youth 'talent' is a long, long way down my list of priorities.
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Ahh...but quite a few of our youngins are better than the crap thats being used as fillers for the squad. i.e. Shelvey, Pacheco (this guy needs to be given a game as a second striker/no 10), Sterling (probably already much better than Ryan Babel) and Wisdom with a body like that should be ready earlier than most CBs.
 
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[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=42145.msg1189063#msg1189063 date=1286284241]
irrelevent.

NEW OWNERS.
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Certainly the obvious priority. Budgie's the next on the fucking list, though. Then Pursslow and Broughton. Then some players.

All out. All change. Start again.
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LFC Reboot.

The Glory Years - Part Deux.
 
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