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Is it a point of principle that your first post back after an outage has to be a negative one or is it just that all your posts are like that?
 
no I'm not talking about 6CM constantly offline 😉
I'm talking about our team. is this the beginning of the end? 🙁
 
Christ- the place is up 10 minutes and Modo and the manspider are acting up.
 
Well cheer us up then! I'm depressed, but then I come here and it's doom and fucking gloom as per, I thought the weekend and lack of Sixcm might have given people time to let off steam.

We're shit yeah, let's be constructive about it.
 
We were fucking garbage at the weekend, garbage. I'm fucking depressed too. Depressed I took my son to his first match to see that shite. Depressed that we're playing like Peteborough FC. Depressed that knobheads try to hack our forum and cause me loads of wasted hours that I should be spending with my family. Depressed that every time I come on here everybody seems to be depressed.
 
I have a serious question. Yes, I'm really disappointed about the season ... but I don't get this "change everything" mentality. I wonder if today's fan would have given Shanks the chance to build his squad? Or Watson for that matter. We've been a horrible disappointment this year, no one can deny that. But I think Kenny needs a chance to fix it (yes, I'm willing to give him another year though I'm also worried about him) ... and if the club can't take drastic steps forward, then I think he should go.
 
Woah. we've won the carling cup and Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaheem started a game - things aren't that bad.

They're defo better than this time 12 months ago. Where we would lose a few decent players and finish the season trophy-less.

In the words of Gary Barlow:" Have a littleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee patienceeeeeeeeeee"
 
We were fucking garbage at the weekend, garbage. I'm fucking depressed too. Depressed I took my son to his first match to see that shite. Depressed that we're playing like Peteborough FC. Depressed that knobheads try to hack our forum and cause me loads of wasted hours that I should be spending with my family. Depressed that every time I come on here everybody seems to be depressed.

I had a great weekend.
 
We were fucking garbage at the weekend, garbage. I'm fucking depressed too. Depressed I took my son to his first match to see that shite. Depressed that we're playing like Peteborough FC. Depressed that knobheads try to hack our forum and cause me loads of wasted hours that I should be spending with my family. Depressed that every time I come on here everybody seems to be depressed.
My brother in law died Saturday morning aged fifty three after a lifetime battling MS.
The Wigan result isn't something to be depressed about.
 
Luckily i didn't see the game. How did we setup? Kennys favoured 442 which rarely works with our current squad or something else?
 
I don't think it's about formations anymore. We have no chance of 4th, and the players know it. There's nothing to play for in the league, and consequently no one was arsed, or even seemed to care that we lost. It was utterly lacklustre against one of the worst teams in the league.

Not to say that I'm a fan of Kenny's tactics/formations, but the line-up we went out with was more than good enough to beat Wigan. The fact that it didn't and that only Suarez, Shelvey and Flanagan seemed to bust a gut tells you a really poor story about the state of affairs.
 
If the players have 'quit' on the league, they should sit on the bench and let those who care play. If it's something worse than that - i.e. Kenny's lost the changing room - then we're in worse shape than I thought, and I have no clue which way the club should go.
 
Cheers lads.
I know that I get as pissed off as everyone when we are shit and there has to be some balance to the joy seeing us do well brings but a little bit of perspective on it all isn't a bad thing either.
 
I don't actually think that tiredness was irrelevant. Rafa used to mention it at weekends after most Champions League matches, and it did seem to be a problem after two games in four days. Three matches in seven days OUGHT to breed fatigue - if it doesn't there's something wrong with the players' effort. So I really don't get the outrage Kenny's comment provoked, except in a 'I'm pissed off and am going to get furiously indignant no matter what he says' sort of mood. And post-match comments aren't candid insights into what will be said behind closed doors. I'd like to know Steve Clarke's input: when we were clobbering Fulham last season many fans were quick to apportion quite a lot of praise to Clarke; when we started misfiring this season, the same fans pointed out that it probably had little to do with Clarke because he mainly concentrates on the defence, which was doing well; now the defence also looks shaky, what will be the excuse about Clarke - that his main responsibility now is looking melancholic in the dug out? I'm not 'anti' Steve Clarke - I was delighted we got him - but this is supposed to be a management team, and he seems to have slipped entirely from the picture as the fans direct their bile at the manager alone. There has to be some consistency - if he gets credit for whatever goes right, he needs to be held accountable, along with others, when things are, as we like to put it, shit.
 
I don't actually think that tiredness was irrelevant. Rafa used to mention it at weekends after most Champions League matches, and it did seem to be a problem after two games in four days. Three matches in seven days OUGHT to breed fatigue - if it doesn't there's something wrong with the players' effort. So I really don't get the outrage Kenny's comment provoked

I think people are asking why, if players are tired, is he not using ones who haven't played the previous 2 games.
 
I think people are asking why, if players are tired, is he not using ones who haven't played the previous 2 games.

Were there many to choose from? Bellamy was out, Maxi was recovering from a knock to the ankle, Adam was out... I can't think of too many options. I hoped for a team that looked as experienced and settled as possible, given the injuries, and that looked pretty right at the start. They were wretched though but I'm not sure what would have improved it rather than just provided a fresh hell. I'm not in the 'we've nothing to lose' camp - I want us to win every game, so I'm not going for the scattershot 'bung anyone new in and see what happens'. People say that and yet you know they'll be the first to scream about how shambolic it was if it went wrong.
 
Coates only played half a match midweek. I would have expected him to start. Carroll only had a few minutes against QPR. Other than that, as you say, there wasnt much options for rotation.
 
Christ- the place is up 10 minutes and Modo and the manspider are acting up.
Which has made me realise I need to work on my ignore list after the outage.

Still at least they continue to justify it.
 
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451 at home against Wigan? I'd accept that formation if it produced the goods, but on Saturday in the first half Henderson was so anonymous that we were effectively a 10 man team.

442 in the 2nd half. Great start with the goal. Momentum just died after the disallowed goal and then bizarrely, just like against QPR, Andy Carroll isn't just dropping deep, he's going out wide!!! Fair enough that Suarez pops up anywhere and everywhere but common sense dictates that Carroll should be in the area when we're attacking.
 
I'm sorry for your loss count, and yeah there are more important things in life.
But didn't a very famous person say, "Someone said 'football is more important than life and death to you' and I said 'Listen, it's more important than that'."

Am I not allowed to bring up something negative about the club because there are more negative things in this world?
The only reason I'm here right now is to vent my anger, like I said I'm sorry for your loss man, the last thing on my mind would be football if something like that happened.

Spionkop69 get fucked. You are a massive tool and too bad you're not seeing this.
So here's a very personal fuck you from me and Oh I'm not gonna leave you alone, oh believe me.
 
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