Wenger to quit (rumour)

[mark1975]

Why would Wenger decide to quit now?

His team looks closer than it has been in recent years to achieving something. They've been unlucky with injuries too.

Do you reckon though Keni? It's seemed like a repetition of any other season.

A spell of dominance where everyone talks them up as contenders, a few heavy defeats, ultimately poor/wrong decisions in the transfer market, injuries symptomatic of their tendency to be all fancy-Dan with no ability to roll their sleeves up when the chips are down (or the cold sets in), Walcott's annual two thirds of a season on the sidelines, a complete failure to address exactly the same issues that have held them back for years - all leading to the same old story of Arsenal running out of steam when they have the opportunity to press ahead.

Different year, same old shit.

 

[Hyena]

It's the same reason players who look odds on to spend a couple years on the bench before moving to the same type of shit team they left end up going to Real - prestige.

Prestige is poison for a manager.

 

[Athens]

I don't think that's true. For all their supposed woes they are a much bigger club.

It's the same reason players who look odds on to spend a couple years on the bench before moving to the same type of shit team they left end up going to Real - prestige.

Perhaps. If I was offered to work for a club that had champions league football and no debt (Arsenal have a healthy bank account, don't they? I can't think properly this morning) I know where I would go.

But that's just me.

 

[keniget]

Do you reckon though Keni? It's seemed like a repetition of any other season.

A spell of dominance where everyone talks them up as contenders, a few heavy defeats, ultimately poor/wrong decisions in the transfer market, injuries symptomatic of their tendency to be all fancy-Dan with no ability to roll their sleeves up when the chips are down (or the cold sets in), Walcott's annual two thirds of a season on the sidelines, a complete failure to address exactly the same issues that have held them back for years - all leading to the same old story of Arsenal running out of steam when they have the opportunity to press ahead.

Different year, same old shit.

Yeah, I can see that. I think they've been a little more resilient this year though and have bounced back after suffering a few setbacks that perhaps in years previous would've seen them drop down the table. After all, they're only 3pts off us and we're supposedly the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[keniget]

Perhaps. If I was offered to work for a club that had champions league football and no debt (Arsenal have a healthy bank account, don't they? I can't think properly this morning) I know where I would go.

But that's just me.

Hmm. Well I seem to have taken on the rather unfortunate position of talking up both Utd and Arsenal / Wenger in the same thread. Ugh.

I wouldn't go to Utd either but I guess the point I was trying to make - perhaps badly - was that players and managers often go for the more prestigious option.

 

[gkmacca]

Tony Adams, the white Garth Crooks. Tony is still as stupid as he was when he was drunk but, like Garth, he's realised that if he says stupid things in a very thoughtful way, he sounds thoughtful to stupid people.

 

[Judge Jules]

Well financially speaking quite a few spring to mind actually.

Not that many. We're in the top ten ourselves.

 

[Silver Sean]

Yeah, I can see that. I think they've been a little more resilient this year though and have bounced back after suffering a few setbacks that perhaps in years previous would've seen them drop down the table. After all, they're only 3pts off us and we're supposedly the best thing since sliced bread.

We have turned into this team in a very short amount of time. Hence the lauding of our play etc. Wenger has been peddling in bullshit for year after year after year. To have an opposition manager call you a 'specialist in failure' (which he has been for nearly a decade) and then have your team go out against that manager and lose 6-0. That takes something very special.
He's a total bell-end. He shock our league up when he came in, changed everything, but has been overtaken in this approach for nearly ten years. Fuck him and fuck Arsenal.

 

[doctor_mac]

Tony Adams, the white Garth Crooks. Tony is still as stupid as he was when he was drunk but, like Garth, he's realised that if he says stupid things in a very thoughtful way, he sounds thoughtful to stupid people.

Post of the year for me so far.

 

[Rosco]

Rosssssssssss!!!!!!!

They're posting unverified rumours off Twitter again!!!!!!

Rossssssss!!!!! Can you hear me.... Rossssssassss!!!!!!

But it might be true, seeing as he still hasn't signed a contract.

Twitter isn't the problem, a lack of common sense is.

 

[localny]

• Try not to laugh

Defender Per Mertesacker wonders if the early kick-off time had anything to do with his side's lacklustre performance, with all three of their heavy defeats this season having started at lunchtime.

The German said: "I don't know why, but it looks like we don't fancy early kick-offs away.
"It looks like we are going to have to apply to the FA to not play at 12.45 away. That would help us a lot.

 

[Frogfish]

Not signed a new contract seems to me like this could have been a do or die season for Wenger. He has been under relative pressure to produce and then got slammed by us and Chelsea (and United ?) and then being seen off in good style in the CL might be enough to show him it's not going to happen anytime soon so maybe he's decided to call it a day. Or maybe it's just Twatter rubbish.

 

[doctor_mac]

If he wins the FA cup and qualifies in the top 4 then that's like more success than he's had in a long time. And I reckon he'll stay.

 

[Silver Sean]

FOOOOUUUUURRRRRRRTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wankers.

 

[Mystic]

Was this really them after fourth?!

And Christ, Giroud parading his shirt for the camera is embarrassing.

 

[redhorizon2]

FOOOOUUUUURRRRRRRTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wankers.

Black Silver Surfer

 

[gkmacca]

You could tell what was going to happen last week when they celebrating like loons after beating a Spurs side at its crappest. They've got no focus, no discipline, no humility whatsoever.

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

You could tell what was going to happen last week when they celebrating like loons after beating a Spurs side at its crappest. They've got no focus, no discipline, no humility whatsoever.

A team of Tim Sherwoods!

 

[Silver Sean]

I think if a team that has not been in the CL for a while i.e. us, young side, newish manager, new broom etc gets 4th it's probably worth celebrating. But to get into CL every season then fail EVERY time? Celebrating like you've won a trophy is embarrassing.
The way they acted after the Spurs win does indeed say it all.
Effete.
The fart that doesn't smell.
Poltroons (it means wretched cowards, Macca)
And now they'll probably finish above us.
Such is life.

 

[gkmacca]

I know it does! 😀

 

[peterhague]

Yeah, I can see that. I think they've been a little more resilient this year though and have bounced back after suffering a few setbacks that perhaps in years previous would've seen them drop down the table. After all, they're only 3pts off us and we're supposedly the best thing since sliced bread.

3 points off us, sure. But they were 7 ahead of us when they pitched up at Anfield 6 weeks ago. That's more or less a collapse in my book.

And that's before you get into the nature of the performances vs us and Chelsea.

 

[Silver Sean]

For me, it's getting a bit Moyesesque at the Emirates. I want him to stay as they are less of a threat. He's outstayed his usefulness there, everyone but the Arsenal board can see that. He's successfully steered them through the move to the new stadium without bankrupting them and getting them in the cash-cow CL every year to help pay for it.
I chatted to Bob Wilson a while a go about him, Wilson says he was tasked with doing exactly that – so once the stadium is paid for they are debt-free and he has free rein to sign anyone for whatever he wants. He signed that boggle-eyed loon and it's all gone to shit.
Stick a fork in his ass and turn him over, he's done.

 

[Silver Sean]

Was this really them after fourth?!

And Christ, Giroud parading his shirt for the camera is embarrassing.

Yup. They are ridiculous.

 

[peterhague]

Wenger is an odd one really. I'd still maintain that on paper he's done a great job the last few years spending basically nothing and keeping up a reasonable standard, even the odd half-arsed title challenge thrown in. It's hard to imagine another manager doing better with the same resources.

But on the other hand it seems crystal clear that he's also holding them back, that they've stagnated as he's got more and more stubborn and obsessive. It's just the same problems year in, year out. It's impossible to imagine them ever being solved now. They've become entrenched.

 

[Silver Sean]

Wenger is an odd one really. I'd still maintain that on paper he's done a great job the last few years spending basically nothing and keeping up a reasonable standard, even the odd half-arsed title challenge thrown in. It's hard to imagine another manager doing better with the same resources.

But on the other hand it seems crystal clear that he's also holding them back, that they've stagnated as he's got more and more stubborn and obsessive. It's just the same problems year in, year out. It's impossible to imagine them ever being solved now. They've become entrenched.

He has spent huge amounts of money hasn't he? He just stays in the black by selling his best player or two players every summer.

 

[Silver Sean]

Wenger has been in charge for 1000 games.
He last one a trophy 502 games ago.
Says it all really.
Was good.
He's lost it.

 

[gkmacca]

His lasting visible legacy will be that horrible blob of Vicks-like stuff that most footballers now smear at the top of their shirts.

 

[Mersey86]

Worth a "cheeky bid" to be our new youth team coach?

 

[peterhague]

He has spent huge amounts of money hasn't he? He just stays in the black by selling his best player or two players every summer.

Sorry I forgot.

Selling your best player every summer has no effect on your team.

 

[tombrown]

His lasting visible legacy will be that horrible blob of Vicks-like stuff that most footballers now smear at the top of their shirts.

O was that invented by him?