Weekend games
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Saturday night - was feeling really good last night but looking at the table and seeing City and Everton above us kinda makes you look at shit you don't want to. Anyway I wanted to compare the results of City against the same teams last season - here are my findings for Man City:-
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{tbody}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}Fixture {/td}
{td=@x12} 2015/2016 {/td}
{td=@x12} 2016/2017{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12} vs Sunderland (away){/td}
{td=@x12}W(4-1){/td}
{td=@x12} W(2-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=178x@} vs stoke city (away){/td}
{td}L(2-0){/td}
{td} W(1-4){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}vs west ham (home){/td}
{td=@x12}L(1-2){/td}
{td=@x12} W(3-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}vs man untd (away){/td}
{td=@x12}D(0-0){/td}
{td=@x12} W(1-2){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}vs bournmouth (home){/td}
{td=@x12}W(5-1){/td}
{td=@x12} W(4-0){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}Total Points{/td}
{td=@x12}7{/td}
{td=@x12}15{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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As can be seen a significant improvement from last season by them over the same teams - but it should also be said that this time last season after their first five games they also had 15 points and we had 7 points (we had already lost to West Ham at home and Man United away).
For the tragic blue shite neighbors after the first five games they had 8pts compared to this seasons 13pts but when comparing their results against the same teams from last season we have this:-
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{tbody}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}Fixture{/td}
{td=@x12} 2015/2016{/td}
{td=106x12} 2016/2017 {/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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{tbody}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}vs Spurs (home){/td}
{td=@x12}D (1-1){/td}
{td=106x12}D (1-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}vs WBA (away){/td}
{td=@x12}W (3-2){/td}
{td=106x12}W (2-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}vs Stoke (home){/td}
{td}L (3 - 4){/td}
{td=106x@}W (1-0){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}vs Sunderland (away){/td}
{td=@x12}L (0 - 3){/td}
{td=106x12}W (3-0){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}Total Points{/td}
{td=@x12}4{/td}
{td=106x12}10{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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As you can see this Koeman character is a bit of a menace - what is worrying is that I think he will be in the market place for players that Klopp also likes; this could get messy if they continue to win.
Anyway thought you guys should know - I don't know what you guys think is a better measure when comparing against previous years results - head to head or points by games played.
[xtable=307x@]
{tbody}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}Fixture {/td}
{td=@x12} 2015/2016 {/td}
{td=@x12} 2016/2017{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12} vs Sunderland (away){/td}
{td=@x12}W(4-1){/td}
{td=@x12} W(2-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=178x@} vs stoke city (away){/td}
{td}L(2-0){/td}
{td} W(1-4){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}vs west ham (home){/td}
{td=@x12}L(1-2){/td}
{td=@x12} W(3-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}vs man untd (away){/td}
{td=@x12}D(0-0){/td}
{td=@x12} W(1-2){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}vs bournmouth (home){/td}
{td=@x12}W(5-1){/td}
{td=@x12} W(4-0){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=178x12}Total Points{/td}
{td=@x12}7{/td}
{td=@x12}15{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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As can be seen a significant improvement from last season by them over the same teams - but it should also be said that this time last season after their first five games they also had 15 points and we had 7 points (we had already lost to West Ham at home and Man United away).
For the tragic blue shite neighbors after the first five games they had 8pts compared to this seasons 13pts but when comparing their results against the same teams from last season we have this:-
[xtable=397x@]
{tbody}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}Fixture{/td}
{td=@x12} 2015/2016{/td}
{td=106x12} 2016/2017 {/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]
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{tbody}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}vs Spurs (home){/td}
{td=@x12}D (1-1){/td}
{td=106x12}D (1-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}vs WBA (away){/td}
{td=@x12}W (3-2){/td}
{td=106x12}W (2-1){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}vs Stoke (home){/td}
{td}L (3 - 4){/td}
{td=106x@}W (1-0){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}vs Sunderland (away){/td}
{td=@x12}L (0 - 3){/td}
{td=106x12}W (3-0){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x12}
{td=@x12}Total Points{/td}
{td=@x12}4{/td}
{td=106x12}10{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]
As you can see this Koeman character is a bit of a menace - what is worrying is that I think he will be in the market place for players that Klopp also likes; this could get messy if they continue to win.
Anyway thought you guys should know - I don't know what you guys think is a better measure when comparing against previous years results - head to head or points by games played.
Do us!
Matip's expression when he saw Klopp heading in his direction was really funny. "Oh here he comes... (glances to the side to see if he can still escape)... well how bad can it be, I'm mean he's not going to lift me uuuuuuuuuup oh shit..."
All good fun though, I'm sure players love playing for this manager.
Yup, he seems to use a lot of carrot and very little stick, at least not in public. Seems like a good guy.
Not so sure that the improvement in points has as much to do with Everton as it does the decline of Stoke and Sunderland.
If we are looking for signs of improvement them just look at Guyue (sp. ). Otherwise I haven't seen any major signs of progress.
Koeman is a very decent European manager whose teams always qualify for CL or Europa League in any country he has managed in. He is not trying to build a Barcelona on a budget like Martinez, he just solidified the defense by bringing in Ashley Williams and Gueye, switched the system to bread-and-butter 4-2-3-1 and improved the wings by getting Mirallas to lose 13 pounds and replacing Pienaar with Bolasie. Now Everton look like a slightly less expensive version of Spurs – not too interesting, but solidly built, efficient and not without talent (Barkley, Lukaku, Deulofeu). They will do well this season – maybe not top 6, because the competition for those places will be too intense, but probably right below.
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Builds momentum & confidence though. They've played well & *cliché alert* you can only beat what's in front of you.
Watford at home to man united at 12 on bt sports. Watford picked up a few results and United losing a few. Does anyone give Watford a chance here?
Nope
I think Watford will win.
No you dont.
I hope they do, obviously, but it's hard to imagine.
Troy Deeney always looks like they've dragged him out of the pub to me, he looks nothing like your average premiership player, what with his moobs & beer gut.
I do. I have decided that I want to believe it, and I'm going to believe it. I do believe it.
No you dont
Get out of my head Skully!
How the FUCK did he miss that?!
It was a fucking open goal! Fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK!
It was a fucking open goal! Fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK!
Watford could be up.
Smelling a De Gea mix up and Deeney (I think) missed an open goal.
Smelling a De Gea mix up and Deeney (I think) missed an open goal.
That was as open a goal as you ever see at this level. He actually had time as well, & yet still misses by size or seven yards.
Fucking unforgivable at Sunday league level, never mind in the Premiership.
Fucking unforgivable at Sunday league level, never mind in the Premiership.
Boss header, great save. Fucking cunt.
I know it's early doors, & Utd have had some joy going forwards, but fuck me if Utd don't look shit when Watford are pushing them back.
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