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Transfer Rumours 21/22

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Doku would be the perfect signing for our attack in many ways:
  • He's only 19, so doesn't need to take up a foreign player quota for another 3 years. I believe he might be considered home-grown after that - not sure about this

Na, don't think so. He has to spend 3 years in England before the age of 21 to be considered home-grown, so he's too old.
 
I'd like to believe there's something to this

Doku is 19 and therefore wouldn't take a non-homegrown spot. That's surely important.

He's quick, can play either side, and has big game experience for Belgium

Lots of boxes ticked right there.
Sounds like Origi when we bought him.
 
Doku would be the perfect signing for our attack in many ways:
  • He's only 19, so doesn't need to take up a foreign player quota for another 3 years. I believe he might be considered home-grown after that - not sure about this.
  • Frightening pace and built like a tank, so he's ready physically for English football already. Exactly the kind of young player Klopp would love working with
  • Not yet old or experienced enough that he'd kick up a fuss about wanting to start every game, which a 24 year old might do. Perfect age for us to have him play off the bench for a couple of years, and then be ready to take over for Salah / Mane.
  • Ideal to throw off the bench when we want someone to absolutely run at a defence for 15 mins. I'd also be quite content with a Jota-Firmino-Doku front line when Salah and Mane are off playing in the AFCON. That attack would still have a hell of a lot of pace and goals.
Loved reading this.
a) I hope it's true !
b) I hope that we can then actually get him.
 
Doku has borderline zero end product. Now we could coach that in to him, but I'm sceptical. Least mane/Salah had end product, albeit inconsistently
 
Doku has borderline zero end product. Now we could coach that in to him, but I'm sceptical. Least mane/Salah had end product, albeit inconsistently
Damn Fabio's right. I didn't even check before getting on board Dmishra's train !

Last season just 2 goals and 3 assists in 2,317 mins in Ligue 1 (he did better in just 7 games in Belgium before his transfer). 0 goals + 0 assists in 4 CL starts and 2 subs on. 0 goals + 0 assists in two games during the Euros.
 
He rejected us once before didn't he? Back when he was 16, which is not that long ago.

Rennes star Jeremy Doku has opened up on his decision to reject a transfer to Liverpool despite holding discussions with Jurgen Klopp, Steven Gerrard and Sadio Mane.
 
I'd like to believe there's something to this

Doku is 19 and therefore wouldn't take a non-homegrown spot. That's surely important.

He's quick, can play either side, and has big game experience for Belgium

Lots of boxes ticked right there.
Doku would be the perfect signing for our attack in many ways:
  • He's only 19, so doesn't need to take up a foreign player quota for another 3 years. I believe he might be considered home-grown after that - not sure about this.
  • Frightening pace and built like a tank, so he's ready physically for English football already. Exactly the kind of young player Klopp would love working with
  • Not yet old or experienced enough that he'd kick up a fuss about wanting to start every game, which a 24 year old might do. Perfect age for us to have him play off the bench for a couple of years, and then be ready to take over for Salah / Mane.
  • Ideal to throw off the bench when we want someone to absolutely run at a defence for 15 mins. I'd also be quite content with a Jota-Firmino-Doku front line when Salah and Mane are off playing in the AFCON. That attack would still have a hell of a lot of pace and goals.
I have the attention span & memory of a goldfish, so I'll go with Squiggles version
 
Damn Fabio's right. I didn't even check before getting on board Dmishra's train !

Last season just 2 goals and 3 assists in 2,317 mins in Ligue 1 (he did better in just 7 games in Belgium before his transfer). 0 goals + 0 assists in 4 CL starts and 2 subs on. 0 goals + 0 assists in two games during the Euros.
Teenagers rarely have end product in the first year of first team football. Take Sterling for example. He broke into the team in 12/13 when he scored just 2 goals in 24 appearances. The couple of seasons after that - 10 and 11 goals respectively. Couple of years after that, he really exploded, and started hitting the 20 goal mark.

I wouldn't hold lack of end product against a 19 year old at all. Chances are he's due for an explosion in end product very soon.
 
Na, don't think so. He has to spend 3 years in England before the age of 21 to be considered home-grown, so he's too old.
Read that you don't count as above 21 unless you're 21 at on 1st of January for the relevant year. By that metric, Doku would be over 21 only by the 24-25 season. Would that mean he's spent 3 years here? Not sure how the FA would interpret that.
 
Teenagers rarely have end product in the first year of first team football. Take Sterling for example. He broke into the team in 12/13 when he scored just 2 goals in 24 appearances. The couple of seasons after that - 10 and 11 goals respectively. Couple of years after that, he really exploded, and started hitting the 20 goal mark.

I wouldn't hold lack of end product against a 19 year old at all. Chances are he's due for an explosion in end product very soon.
Sterling still has a conversation rate of 0.25%
 
Just posted three articles from theAtheltic in the sticky thread.

Jones is out of the Norwich game due to concussion. The other 2 articles are disheartening though.

First article is how the team need to be mentality monsters again. Second article is Klopp stating we do not want more players.
 
The gaffer on potential transfers

“It is summer and the transfer window is open, then everyone expects some player signings. We will see what happens.”

“You have to make changes from time to time, but then there must be room to do it. We do not want more players. If something happens somewhere, something can happen somewhere else, but it makes no sense to add more players.”


“Let’s go through the squad. Do you want to buy a new fullback? A new goalkeeper? We already have good players there…I’ve definitely forgotten someone… If you want to buy such players, you have to spend a lot of money. We do not have to do that, because the players are already here.”


“We are a good football team, that’s all I know. I do not know who will be the best. But some clubs have the opportunity to join it, and we’re going to do ours to join the race for the league title.

“When you see what the other teams are doing on the transfer market, it is clear that they also have big ambitions. But we are still here and should do our best.”

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Basically we need to sell in order to buy.
 
The gaffer on potential transfers

“It is summer and the transfer window is open, then everyone expects some player signings. We will see what happens.”

“You have to make changes from time to time, but then there must be room to do it. We do not want more players. If something happens somewhere, something can happen somewhere else, but it makes no sense to add more players.”


“Let’s go through the squad. Do you want to buy a new fullback? A new goalkeeper? We already have good players there…I’ve definitely forgotten someone… If you want to buy such players, you have to spend a lot of money. We do not have to do that, because the players are already here.”


“We are a good football team, that’s all I know. I do not know who will be the best. But some clubs have the opportunity to join it, and we’re going to do ours to join the race for the league title.

“When you see what the other teams are doing on the transfer market, it is clear that they also have big ambitions. But we are still here and should do our best.”

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Basically we need to sell in order to buy.

Weirdly I don't take that as for financial reasons though. Think klopp just likes a tight squad, and doesn't want to bump anyone out for the sake of it.
Teenagers rarely have end product in the first year of first team football. Take Sterling for example. He broke into the team in 12/13 when he scored just 2 goals in 24 appearances. The couple of seasons after that - 10 and 11 goals respectively. Couple of years after that, he really exploded, and started hitting the 20 goal mark.

I wouldn't hold lack of end product against a 19 year old at all. Chances are he's due for an explosion in end product very soon.

I agree that you can't hold end product against a young player, but you can hold it against a 40m player.

I've no doubt his numbers will improve, but I don't think he's ready for us yet. This is different to a Jota who was on an upward trend.

Doku is an explosive player who forces play. But so was mark Gonzalez before we bought him.
 


"Liverpool and Lyon are close to agreeing a deal for Xherdan Shaqiri. Lyon have made a €6M offer, Liverpool are holding out for €8M."
 


"Liverpool and Lyon are close to agreeing a deal for Xherdan Shaqiri. Lyon have made a €6M offer, Liverpool are holding out for €8M."
Nah, we need more than that. Unless we're getting some kind of favour from them. Maybe first dibs on Aouar.
 
Nah, we need more than that. Unless we're getting some kind of favour from them. Maybe first dibs on Aouar.

I think after a few seasons, Edwards has accepted that maaaaaybe we can't shift an aging bench warmer for what we paid for him. I'd take 6m, providing we had someone lined up to replace
 
Foden out for a month…ohhhh know what a huge blow. If only there were a 100m player waiting in the wings to step i….OH WAIT
 
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