I could get the LFC pig out and get little Kaito to start kissing. Yep! I'm on it. 🙂
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I can't wait for the unveiling of what we spend the Coutinho money on.
Deeney, Shawcross and Drinkwater
Worth a fucking punt I guess.
*hangs cock out*
He never fucking learns does he?
I think it's great that we've done this in the Liverpool way: getting all our business done early, in the right fashion; deciding who we want and what we are willing to pay for the right players; all without announcing anything to the media.
So refreshing. Well done FSG.
So refreshing. Well done FSG.
It's great to have a clear priority target for each position that we need to strengthen, but it's essential to have the foresight to accept that we need at least a couple of very good back up options in case we can't get target number one. And also to accept that we may need to get back ups in early, rather than waiting too late in the day. This, is getting very late in the day. I hope to hell the lack of signings up until now doesn't bite us on the ass when we host the Hoffs.
I'm tired of signing people we don't really need, so I am glad we are not signing anyone
Having said that, I get KLOPP doesn't want to sign anyone but his targets but in the real world, sometimes your second choice can be pretty good too. I'm not talking about signing a lampshade instead of a pillow, but maybe signing a nice red couch instead of a nice magenta one. We should have surely had good secondary targets.
I also think we're negotiating well - we're not being bent over, and are holding out. I think we will make signings - but I also think it's a super tough transfer window with clubs asking for waaay too much money.
Having said that, I get KLOPP doesn't want to sign anyone but his targets but in the real world, sometimes your second choice can be pretty good too. I'm not talking about signing a lampshade instead of a pillow, but maybe signing a nice red couch instead of a nice magenta one. We should have surely had good secondary targets.
I also think we're negotiating well - we're not being bent over, and are holding out. I think we will make signings - but I also think it's a super tough transfer window with clubs asking for waaay too much money.
I bet they they had a poke down the sides for the loose change before bringing it back in.
I know I would.
Agreed. Whenever you overpay for something it means that you're being made to pay for quality. When you underpay for something, it means you're getting junk. The same principle applies in the stock market which you'd assume our owners would get. You never bargain hunt "cheap" stocks, because guess what, they're cheap for a reason, which is that they're shit and are headed down. Yet our transfer policy is to run away if we're paying over the odds, and get on our knees to praise the lord when we underpay. It's the literal opposite of what you need to do to be successful. By continually looking to get good prices, we're limiting our transfers to utter junk, and then act surprised when our squad looks the way it does.
As I agree on your sentiments I hold at least a Carroll, Benteke, Markovic and Downing against that quote!!
I think it has been mentioned before by some posters - no one likes settling for dodgy/poor 2nd choice targets but the onus is on the TC to improve the system/scouting etc. such that the list of names/alternatives are sound, instead of conveniently using it as 'shield' to justify 'sticking by their guns'.
Besides, how many clubs end up signing all of their 1st choice players every transfer window? Also, its not just having transfer alternatives specifically for a transfer window/period but also viable options to replace existing players in times of emergency (injury, dispute etc.) or improvement purposes (as the club grows or upon certain players' availability etc.) - the likes of Monchi and Reed (long term thinking as he call it) have mentioned this before (some posters will question the level of success at these clubs competitively and the different level/range they are dealing with in the tranfer market but I'm sure most clubs/DoFs do have similar plans too.
[article]Negotiations come next, where you have to know the market, have an alternative, and be realistic. “The guy selling a Seat Leon will claim it’s a better model,” Monchi says. “Kanouté wasn’t the first option; we were going after Fred, the Brazilian. We wanted [Kevin-Prince] Boateng before Keita.[/article]
From the article on Brentford shared by @peekay
[article]"Recruitment is about being less and less wrong," Ankersen says. "It's not about being right all the time. Every player you sign is a risk, and you just try and do your due diligence properly."[/article]
Forget about the starting XI, even the squad depth is a concern.
From Nov to Dec, there are up to 16 games to play (League, League Cup, CL group stage) in the space of less 58 days.
[article]Champions League: 31 Oct – 01 Nov: Group stage, matchday four
Premier League: Sat 4th Nov West Ham United A
Premier League: Sat 18th Nov Southampton H
Champions League: 21–22 Nov: Group stage, matchday five
Premier League: Sat 25th Nov Chelsea H
Premier League: Wed 29th Nov Stoke City A
Premier League: Sat 2nd 15:00 Brighton and Hove Albion A
Champions League: 05–06 Dec: Group stage, matchday six
Premier League: Sat 9th Dec Everton H
Premier League: Wed 13th Dec West Brom H
Premier League: Sat 16th Dec Bournemouth A
Carabao Cup Round Five: Week commencing 18th December 2017
Premier League: Sat 23rd 15:00 Arsenal A
Premier League: Tue 26th 15:00 Swansea City H
Premier League: Sat 30th 15:00 Leicester City H
Premier League: Mon 1st Jan Burnley A[/article]
Besides, how many clubs end up signing all of their 1st choice players every transfer window? Also, its not just having transfer alternatives specifically for a transfer window/period but also viable options to replace existing players in times of emergency (injury, dispute etc.) or improvement purposes (as the club grows or upon certain players' availability etc.) - the likes of Monchi and Reed (long term thinking as he call it) have mentioned this before (some posters will question the level of success at these clubs competitively and the different level/range they are dealing with in the tranfer market but I'm sure most clubs/DoFs do have similar plans too.
[article]Negotiations come next, where you have to know the market, have an alternative, and be realistic. “The guy selling a Seat Leon will claim it’s a better model,” Monchi says. “Kanouté wasn’t the first option; we were going after Fred, the Brazilian. We wanted [Kevin-Prince] Boateng before Keita.[/article]
From the article on Brentford shared by @peekay
[article]"Recruitment is about being less and less wrong," Ankersen says. "It's not about being right all the time. Every player you sign is a risk, and you just try and do your due diligence properly."[/article]
Forget about the starting XI, even the squad depth is a concern.
From Nov to Dec, there are up to 16 games to play (League, League Cup, CL group stage) in the space of less 58 days.
[article]Champions League: 31 Oct – 01 Nov: Group stage, matchday four
Premier League: Sat 4th Nov West Ham United A
Premier League: Sat 18th Nov Southampton H
Champions League: 21–22 Nov: Group stage, matchday five
Premier League: Sat 25th Nov Chelsea H
Premier League: Wed 29th Nov Stoke City A
Premier League: Sat 2nd 15:00 Brighton and Hove Albion A
Champions League: 05–06 Dec: Group stage, matchday six
Premier League: Sat 9th Dec Everton H
Premier League: Wed 13th Dec West Brom H
Premier League: Sat 16th Dec Bournemouth A
Carabao Cup Round Five: Week commencing 18th December 2017
Premier League: Sat 23rd 15:00 Arsenal A
Premier League: Tue 26th 15:00 Swansea City H
Premier League: Sat 30th 15:00 Leicester City H
Premier League: Mon 1st Jan Burnley A[/article]
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I was waiting for you to do so, so I can go into the maths! It's a graph, four quadrants. The horizontal axis goes from cheap to expensive. The vertical axis measures low to high quality. 90% of players sit around a diagonal line through the middle. In other words, they're either cheap and low quality, or expensive and high quality. Most clubs play around this line.
Then you have cunts like Southampton, who are able to unearth those 5% of hidden gems who are cheap and high quality in the top left quadrant. When you have our dickhead owners who look at Southampton, Moneyball blah blah blah, try to do the same thing, go for that 5% miracle shot, and we end up in the bottom right quadrant where you will find all of those cunt players you've listed.
When you overpay for a good player, the club will resist, it will always do so. Therefore you need to negotiate well to get it done. What we do is walk away, never learn or develop our negotiating skills, and go buy a bunch of cheap junk instead. On the few occasions when we feel pressure to overpay for a superstar, it's been when the other club didn't resist and made negotiations easy. Sakho is a prime example. Salah is starting to look like another. The lack of resistance should be a massive hint. Yet in our arrogance we think we know more about the player than the club which has actually employed him. If we had better people handling our transfers, they'd have been able to secure Keita and that's it.
Wow. I really hope your fantasy team is better than mine 😉
Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar, Pogba, lukaku, Sterling, Sane......
Helen Keller's Fantasy Team would be better than yours.
From one wankfest to another.....
Ha!
The worrying thing is that Klopp has already thrown the obvious first team at both competitions. That team has struggled to come through a Premiership season unscathed, never mind a season in Europe too. We're pretty much one injury away from a disaster, if it's anyone from Matip, one of the midfield, Mane or Salah.
If you refer to the one whose names I repeat each night before falling asleep, they're probably not.
What do all these signings have in common? it makes for a depressing stat..
They all played for Liverpool.What do all these have in common? it makes for a depressing stat..
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