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He doesn't even know his own name in English.
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Hahaha
 
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=40759.msg1128974#msg1128974 date=1277925661]
Do Fulham play Zonal Marking? 😱
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Theres an article where Roy says he loves zonal marking, I will dig it up
 
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1128962#msg1128962 date=1277923544]
Like Pellegrini?!

He won the league in Argentina with their biggest club. The only thing he's won outside of South America is the Intertoto Cup & he's never worked in this country before.

He cant speak English. AT ALL.

Fucking hell, people moan about Roy Hodgson & would take that instead. Christ.
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Can he not speak at English? I only wanted him when someone said on here that he could.

I really wonder if Capello's english is good enough to communicate properly. Language is a really big deal as far as I'm concerned.
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He doesn't even know his own name in English.
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Yeah, I thought he spoke fluent INGLES. Of course a non starter if not
 
Its on his wiki:

His early coaching career was closely linked to that of his friend Bob Houghton; they worked together at Maidstone, Stranraer and Bristol City, and they both worked in Swedish football at the same time. The pair are credited with transforming Swedish football, bringing in zonal marking for the first time.[6]

The times:

From The Times March 6, 2009

Roy Hodgson hoping to play trump card on Sir Alex FergusonAlyson Rudd It is tricky, once you have had a chat with Roy Hodgson, to argue that Barclays Premier League clubs should give young managers a chance. Hodgson, 61, has zigzagged around Europe for more than 30 years, learning a skill here, a moral there. The Fulham manager admits to all manner of fleeting flaws — lack of humility, naivety, sulkiness and even, to impress his future wife, lying about his nationality. But he acknowledged them all and learnt the lessons.

Then Hodgson was 29 he made a pact to give up coaching and open a travel agency. He had no idea the job would take him into his sixties, that he would manage three national sides and be very close to managing two more in the shape of England and Germany. Tomorrow he faces Manchester United in the FA Cup sixth round, but he is not overawed by the club aiming for a quadruple. Why would he be? When he was manager of Malmö, he was as all-conquering as Sir Alex Ferguson is now.

“Humility is a very useful quality but I didn’t have it at Malmö, that’s for sure,†he said. “I was pretty unbearable. What I did in those five years is what Alex has done here.â€

Hodgson says he reacquired humility but that that did not dent his assertiveness. He has a track record of taking over teams and throwing out the system he inherited. He did this at Fulham, ditching the long-ball game deployed by Lawrie Sanchez, his predecessor. He did it at Neuchâtel in Switzerland, imposing organised, direct football “on a public used to 25 passes before even thinking of playing it forwardâ€. But he also did it, remarkably, at Inter Milan, when he was appointed coach in 1995.

Inter were using a man-for-man system with a libero and Hodgson announced that he wanted to go with a back four and zonal marking. There were puzzled frowns and vocal cynics, including players, but he won them over with his first game. Inter drew 0-0 with Lazio while playing Hodgson’s new system. “My wife always claims that when I met her, I told her I had Italian origins,†he said. “I can’t believe I was clever enough to do that, but there was obviously something that attracted me to the country.â€

Hodgson, born in Croydon, South London, must have pinched himself upon being offered a top job in Italy. “When I went there I thought, ‘This is fantastic’, but I had turned down some quite high-profile offers \ so I didn’t think, ‘What am I doing here?’ †he said. He admits, though, that he did from time to time “think, ‘Blimey, this is a big club’. But they were turbulent times. I used to joke I’d never been to as many funerals in my life because every defeat was a funeral.â€

His early career is less majestic and has the ring of an Ealing comedy about it. He and his friend, Steve Kember, who went on to manage Crystal Palace, passed their 11-plus and attended grammar school together. Hodgson’s father was a bus driver and Kember’s father was his conductor. Hodgson should have gone to the rugby-playing school down the road, but “I was very small and very slight so rugby would probably have been the death of meâ€.

He was also bright — he speaks five languages, three fluently — and had completed his full coaching badge by the age of 23. He says he is not so unusual, that there are plenty of English coaches dotted all over the world, but that there are not many highprofile ones because the next division down in England will always provide a job for an experienced manager and few English managers can be bothered to learn a new language.

However, which overseas club would want an English manager given that the FA has twice appointed a foreign coach for the national team?

“We have devalued the English coaching system by making it clear we don’t think it is good enough,†Hodgson said. “It’s not doing the global opinion about English football any good when you say we haven’t got anyone who’s any good. But I must emphasise we want the best man, so we can’t say it must not be anyone outside of England. Just don’t say we’ve given it to [Fabio] Capello because no one in England is any good. Don’t decry the English system.â€

Germany, though, very nearly made a similar leap of faith with Hodgson. “They wanted to offer it to me,†he said. “But the German FA decided it wouldn’t be a good thing. It would make it seem the German coaching licence is no good.â€

Hodgson was informed by Graham Kelly, the former FA chief executive, that he had been on a three-man shortlist for the job of England manager when he was in charge of Blackburn Rovers, but he was not interviewed, formally or informally. He says the job ought to be the pinnacle of any English manager’s career. “If they ever want to interview me I’d be very happy to speak to them, but I’m not sitting here with bated breath,†he said.

He admits to handling his sacking from Blackburn poorly. “I took it badly because I’d not been sacked before,†he said. “I wouldn’t talk to anybody. I didn’t do any interviews, wouldn’t go on the telly. I was stil lamenting the fact I could have stayed at Inter.â€

Fulham’s tie with United is in many ways an unequal struggle, but if it was purely a battle in terms of managerial experience, Hodgson the traveller would edge it.
 
Two things stand out to me from that:

1. He uses zonal marking; and

2. He says at one point: "Humility is a very useful quality but I didn't have it at Malmo, that's for sure. I was pretty unbearable. What I did in those five years is what Alex has done here." By that he seems to be saying Ferguson's been very successful BUT unbearable with it. If so, he's just gone up in my estimation. 8)
 
1) He's one of Slur Alex's toadying 'great friends'

2) What Woy did in Malmo is in no way comparable or indeed interesting. Who fucking cares about fucking poxy leagues like Sweden?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40759.msg1128983#msg1128983 date=1277927230]
Who fucking cares about fucking poxy leagues like Sweden?
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KHL and Modokay
 
Re zonal marking: Hodgson is talking about in open play. All English clubs use zonal (as opposed to man-to-man) marking in open play. What Rafa brought in was zonal marking at set-pieces.

Re Capello's English: well, he knows how to say 'Press, press, press the fucking ball!' really really loud. What else do you need?
 
Good luck Roy.
I fear you are going to need it in abundance.
 
"This is the biggest job in club football and I'm honoured to be taking on the role of manager of Britain's most successful football club. I look forward to meeting the players and the supporters and getting down to work at Melwood."
 
Right, that's it then. I've been hiding away from the fact that Rafa is gone and waiting for an appointment to get behind.

I'm glad it's Roy and I think he will do well. All the best!
 
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Right, that's it then. I've been hiding away from the fact that Rafa is gone and waiting for an appointment to get behind.

I'm glad it's Roy and I think he will do well. All the best!
[/quote]Its the first time in a long time since weve agreed on a manager
*readies pointy hat*
 
The 62-year-old former Fulham, Inter Milan and Switzerland manager has agreed terms with the club on a [size=14pt]three-year contract [/size] and becomes the 18th manager in our history.

He will be unveiled to the world's media this afternoon after overseeing the first day of pre-season training at Melwood.

Hodgson joins us from Fulham, where he guided the Cottagers to the Europa League final in May and was voted Manager of the Year by the League Managers' Association.

He exclusively told Liverpoolfc.tv: "This is the biggest job in club football and I'm honoured to be taking on the role of manager of Britain's most successful football club. I look forward to meeting the players and the supporters and getting down to work at Melwood."

How did we end up signing him on a 3 year deal when he was happily on a one year deal in a worse job?
Way to throw mone away if he fails.
 
By the way, note, as I assumed, that he isn't here on a one year rolling arrangement, but a 3 year deal.
 
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By the way, note, as I assumed, that he isn't here on a one year rolling arrangement, but a 3 year deal.
[/quote]Im here from the past to talk to you about the future.
 
Made up we've got a manager. I'm optimistic we can push for fourth MINIMUM next season.

First up, get good cash for Mascher or tell him to STFU & get on with it, then ensure Torres & Gerrard are happy & staying.

Clear some deadwood, buy one or two solid players & let's get on with playing footy without having to worry about repetitive meaningless ineffective subs on the 60 minute mark every single fucking game.

We're gonna surprise a few people this season, I just know it..
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40759.msg1129148#msg1129148 date=1277975899]
Made up we've got a manager. I'm optimistic we can push for fourth MINIMUM next season.

First up, get good cash for Mascher or tell him to STFU & get on with it, then ensure Torres & Gerrard are happy & staying.

Clear some deadwood, buy one or two solid players & let's get on with playing footy submit having to worry about repetitive meaningless ineffective subs on the 60 minute mark every single fucking game.

We're gonna surprise a few people this season, I just know it..
[/quote]*leads Jon into the room of requirement*
 
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By the way, note, as I assumed, that he isn't here on a one year rolling arrangement, but a 3 year deal.
[/quote]Im here from the past to talk to you about the future.
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Graceless I told you sos are about all the pleasure I can derive from liverpool right now.

I fear the manic side of your LFC personality is coming back. It's admirably insane.
 
Given our situation Hodgson would have been foolish to agree to anything but a substantial contract. That way, should the arabs come to our rescue, he's not going to find himself out of a job after 6 months without compensation.
 
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[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40759.msg1129144#msg1129144 date=1277975720]
By the way, note, as I assumed, that he isn't here on a one year rolling arrangement, but a 3 year deal.
[/quote]Im here from the past to talk to you about the future.
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Graceless I told you sos are about all the pleasure I can derive from liverpool right now.

I fear the manic side of your LFC personality is coming back. It's admirably insane.
[/quote]Erm thats not what i meant at all Fark. I meant that i posted what you posted re-3 year contract the post before you posted it.
DUuuuh
 
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Given our situation Hodgson would have been foolish to agree to anything but a substantial contract. That way, should the arabs come to our rescue, he's not going to find himself out of a job after 6 months without compensation.
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I'm fucking positive his wages & severance are much less than other managers we were linked with, so it's still not like we're talking rafa sized pay offs.
 
To be fair he probably knows if a new owner comes in there's a fair chance of him getting the sack so he's just right to ask for a three contract to cover himself.

Good luck Roy its going to a nervous 8 weeks until the transfer window closes.

Any word on the back room staff are is Inter still waiting to screw us over by making us sack all Rafas team and pay compo only to walk straight into new jobs job at Inter ?
 
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