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Well that's put me off me biscuit.
[Insert pic of Kenneth Williams HERE]
i haven't turned on him in the sense that i now hate him or anything -- i'm still fond. it's just really obvious that it's going to be almost impossible for him to turn this around.
We are a famous football club. We live from extreme club values and good results. If we wanted mid table and stand by our values we would have Kenny. Rodgers is in to do a job about bringing us into CL and push for the title. His excuse for not doing this is that we play so many games that he can't work on the training ground. Hence he prefer not to be in CL? I am not sure what he is up to these days. I am not sure he knows it himself. But he is not doing a good job at the moment, and there is nothing to suggest he is to turn things around anytime soon. The clubs respons to the fans should be to push for the title. If that means sacrifying Rodgers, so be it.
Surely, you can't be that thick. Take your time, and read the post I made after you replied initially. When I asked you about his mental state having a bearing on his performance at work. Are you actually so thick as to think that his stress levels and mental state have no affect on his work? Are you so thick that you can't possibly envisage how his home life breaking down around him could stress him out a soupçon?
Just for read...
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has been getting some stick recently over his team's performances after their brilliant season last year.
Rodgers is seen as one of the great managerial successes of modern times after excellent spells at Watford and particularly at Swansea.
It was his success in getting the Welsh club into the Premier League, at the expense of Reading in the play-offs of 2012, and the club's easy-on-the eye passing game won them many fans amongst the neutrals.
When Rodgers' success is talked about, many people forget of his one major failure, which of course was at Reading FC.
He lasted just six months at the club after Steve Coppell left.
He was sacked in December 2009 and replaced by Brian McDermott, who ending up leading the Royals back into the Premier League.
It's a source of debate amongst Royals fans whether Rodgers should've been given more time at the club, or whether Sir John Madejski was right to sack him.
Getreading website editor, and Royals fan, Hugh Fort, and his mate, and fellow fan, Elliot Clarkson, offer two entirely contrasting views.
[article=http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/debate-were-reading-right-sack-8097473]Rodgers was seen as the natural successor to Steve Coppell - young, dynamic, and, importantly, with previous links to the club, having both played and managed Reading's academy.
What he bought with him was some wonderful ideas and a book absolutely choc-full of meaningless football management speak.
Elliott is right in saying Reading was not the right club for him and his ideas, but that's not good enough reasoning.
I had a season ticket that year, every time I turned up to a game whatever randomly selected team he'd picked that day gave the impression they'd been introduced to each other about 20 minutes before kick-off.
No-one understood what to do, the football was sleep-inducing tedious and utterly ineffective.
The tactics seemed to be tippy-tappying the ball around, losing it, letting the opposition score, then repeating the process until finally having your first shot in the 87th minute.
It was awful.
Rodgers revolutionary tactics were lost on an admittedly limited group of players.
But I ask you, if you are eating a meal, and you realise it's disgusting, do you just blindly carry on eating it in the hope it gets better, or do you eat something else completely different?
Rodgers ploughed on and on, performances got worse and worse and the nonsense he was talking after games just got sillier and sillier.
Elliott is also overlooking the fact that when he was sacked, Reading were teetering above the relegation zone.
They did not give the impression of a team full of hunger for a relegation battle, more a team who really didn't have any idea what they were supposed to do at all.
It might have worked, Rodgers might have kept us up, but it didn't look very likely from where I was sitting.
I don't doubt Rodgers is now a very good manager, I think he'd probably be a decent England manager, although why he'd want to is a mystery.
But at Reading he would not change his ways, ever single fan in the ground could see what he was doing was not working, but he never changed it.
If he'd had three years, I think he might've got that group of players playing like his Swansea team, but unfortunately it didn't work like that, and I believe Mr Madejski was spot on in giving him the boot.[/article]
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has been getting some stick recently over his team's performances after their brilliant season last year.
Rodgers is seen as one of the great managerial successes of modern times after excellent spells at Watford and particularly at Swansea.
It was his success in getting the Welsh club into the Premier League, at the expense of Reading in the play-offs of 2012, and the club's easy-on-the eye passing game won them many fans amongst the neutrals.
When Rodgers' success is talked about, many people forget of his one major failure, which of course was at Reading FC.
He lasted just six months at the club after Steve Coppell left.
He was sacked in December 2009 and replaced by Brian McDermott, who ending up leading the Royals back into the Premier League.
It's a source of debate amongst Royals fans whether Rodgers should've been given more time at the club, or whether Sir John Madejski was right to sack him.
Getreading website editor, and Royals fan, Hugh Fort, and his mate, and fellow fan, Elliot Clarkson, offer two entirely contrasting views.
[article=http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/debate-were-reading-right-sack-8097473]Rodgers was seen as the natural successor to Steve Coppell - young, dynamic, and, importantly, with previous links to the club, having both played and managed Reading's academy.
What he bought with him was some wonderful ideas and a book absolutely choc-full of meaningless football management speak.
Elliott is right in saying Reading was not the right club for him and his ideas, but that's not good enough reasoning.
I had a season ticket that year, every time I turned up to a game whatever randomly selected team he'd picked that day gave the impression they'd been introduced to each other about 20 minutes before kick-off.
No-one understood what to do, the football was sleep-inducing tedious and utterly ineffective.
The tactics seemed to be tippy-tappying the ball around, losing it, letting the opposition score, then repeating the process until finally having your first shot in the 87th minute.
It was awful.
Rodgers revolutionary tactics were lost on an admittedly limited group of players.
But I ask you, if you are eating a meal, and you realise it's disgusting, do you just blindly carry on eating it in the hope it gets better, or do you eat something else completely different?
Rodgers ploughed on and on, performances got worse and worse and the nonsense he was talking after games just got sillier and sillier.
Elliott is also overlooking the fact that when he was sacked, Reading were teetering above the relegation zone.
They did not give the impression of a team full of hunger for a relegation battle, more a team who really didn't have any idea what they were supposed to do at all.
It might have worked, Rodgers might have kept us up, but it didn't look very likely from where I was sitting.
I don't doubt Rodgers is now a very good manager, I think he'd probably be a decent England manager, although why he'd want to is a mystery.
But at Reading he would not change his ways, ever single fan in the ground could see what he was doing was not working, but he never changed it.
If he'd had three years, I think he might've got that group of players playing like his Swansea team, but unfortunately it didn't work like that, and I believe Mr Madejski was spot on in giving him the boot.[/article]
It's the modern day fickleness of football where things have to happen instantaneously. Not being funny but if you can do it in FIFA and Football Manager it really shouldn't be that hard in real life..
That hurt my feelings, thank god for gks dogs.
It was ever thus. Here's Don Welsh back in 1954:
Welsh: 'Okay, lads, I know we're not performing to our requisite levels at the moment but we need to fight for our lives now, regroup and start maximising our zonal strengths with plenty of technical pace and tactical precision. And I've also just dumped the keeper.'
Liddell: 'As captain, I'm really disgusted with how everyone else is playing and I demand an immediate improvement. But you'll probably get us relegated and I'm thinking about signing for someone else'.
Taylor: 'Can I just say you don't know what you're doing and I'd like your job?'
Welsh: 'Okay, lads, I know we're not performing to our requisite levels at the moment but we need to fight for our lives now, regroup and start maximising our zonal strengths with plenty of technical pace and tactical precision. And I've also just dumped the keeper.'
Liddell: 'As captain, I'm really disgusted with how everyone else is playing and I demand an immediate improvement. But you'll probably get us relegated and I'm thinking about signing for someone else'.
Taylor: 'Can I just say you don't know what you're doing and I'd like your job?'
It's what I coined the 'microwave' fan ...
I think it's very possible he will turn it around. A good window and the right players getting a hamstring and we will be flying.
Mate, it is our concern if it affects him. I don't do gossip as I can't be arsed with it, but if it screws him up, it screws up.
I'm not turning on Rodgers as such, I am at the point something has to change.
It is at the point where it's too far gone now to have patience for Rodgers to turn things around..
Comes to the same thing, doesn't it?
When there's just about nothing positive coming out of a half season, and no real light at the end of the tunnel, I think it's valid to ask if he's the right person long term or not.
I do too but also think people who think an immediate change in manager will fix things also wrong
I think it's more an issue of if we can salvage something from this season or not.
A decent caretaker and some momentum could see us take fourth.
You are the captain of a ship. You are heading towards an iseberg. It's off in the distance, but you are heading for it. You tell the guy steering to change direction. He does nothing and you keep heading for it. Do you replace him at the helm, or do you leave him and wait to see if he changes course before it's too late?
I think quite a few folks have already jumped off the ship.
He should get divorced more often?
Maybe Borini is banging that tranny now. Would explain a lot...
Ha, brilliant!
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