Logically should be on a season / financial year basis? Is it because some leagues don't follow the August - May cycle?
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Logically should be on a season / financial year basis? Is it because some leagues don't follow the August - May cycle?
I agree. I think they've just done this to stop clubs messing about with their financial year ends to try to manipulate the rules, but I think they should have said 1 July to 30 June the following year. The clubs with more of a calendar year season are relatively few and far between (think some of the Baltic states do this).
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I don't begrudge Swiss trying to make a bit of cash. He's really good at what he does.
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I still don't think that's a valid enough reason. If he's winning us game for the previous 4 months, ideally we should have the depth once every 2 years to let him go abroad for a month.
The issue isn't AFCON, it's that they've been unwilling to invest in a decent backup. Hopefully they have this time
I see what you're saying, but even with a back up, are we expecting the back up to play every game when Salah is away?
Thats another problem.
Ideally the backup should be Liverpool standard, so hopefully the drop off shouldnt be too much. If the backup can't play 3-4 games in a month then there's bigger concerns
Don't get me wrong AFCON is a massive headache for us, but I don't begrudge anyone going
Similar argument could be made about not renewing Macca, Nunez, Diaz etc, all because they travel half round the world and more often than not aren't match ready the next game. With Salah it's 1 month missing, whereas with the SA boys it's just as much, just spread over a season, rather than condensed. And that's every season, not just every 2 years
I do. I think AFCON are deliberately being cunts. Just schedule it at the same time as the Euros and / or the Nations cup finals.
Bit warm in Africa in the summer init? Morocco at least this time might be more respectable
The every 2 years I don't overly understand like
I'm guessing AFCON is the only time that sponsors and advertisers give a damn about footie being played in Africa.
Nah, I doubt related to Sponsors. Africa is a massive market in its own continent with economies growing in it’s own relatively.
Afcon doesn’t need Europeans fans to watch even if it clashes with Euros and Copa. It can easily exist with local and global sponsers in the summer.
I think he would take that but we are super tight, we may need the money for our new MC group venture.
Depends where. Further South then cooler. North Africa hot.
Have you seen the AFCON dates next year?
It’s mid Dec to Mid Jan - potentially 7 league games as opposed to missing the usual 3 league games & 2 FA Cup games.
Is it a reason not to be offering a contract? - fuck no.
Is it a thing that should be addressed? - fuck yes.
That’s a leverage question - what does he really want - does he want us to help manage his minutes so he can play effectively at AFCON - then your wage goes down and you potentially play less.
If you want tge same or even more money - you need to give up that other stuff so that we, your primary wage payer, gets full value.
It absolutely has to be part of the negotiations - if it wasn’t then someone’s really not doing their job.
It’s mid Dec to Mid Jan - potentially 7 league games as opposed to missing the usual 3 league games & 2 FA Cup games.
Is it a reason not to be offering a contract? - fuck no.
Is it a thing that should be addressed? - fuck yes.
That’s a leverage question - what does he really want - does he want us to help manage his minutes so he can play effectively at AFCON - then your wage goes down and you potentially play less.
If you want tge same or even more money - you need to give up that other stuff so that we, your primary wage payer, gets full value.
It absolutely has to be part of the negotiations - if it wasn’t then someone’s really not doing their job.
Yea, let the Egyptian FA pay his wages for the four weeks he is away
I feel like that’s the general offer, but the structure of his contract changes a little bit from guaranteed income to performance based.
His agent will want guaranteed, (because older, more chance of injury), we’ll want performance for the same reason.
I mean you increase the potential earning ceiling but reduce the baseline… don’t you?
That’s the play with older players, isn’t it?
Absolutely.
If he wasn't delivering and was injury prone i'd understand the reluctance to offer salah a new deal. But thankfully he's been very lucky with injuries and still our most important attacker at the club. Anyone we bring in will be a downgrade and a step backwards. We are meant to be going forwards. Chiesa is a sicknote. Guy is 6 years younger than salah and has continuous injuries in a piss easy Serie A league. I'm not expecting him to stay fit for long. Fact is we need salah a lot more than he needs us.
He doesn't have continuous injuries. In the past 2 seasons he's played more league games than all but 5 of our current team. He has been out for more than 2 weeks only twice in the past 6 years and one of those was the ACL injury he had.
Damn pesky facts…
Is that not what he's saying? He'd understand the reluctance if Salah was injury prone but he's not?
Am I drunk?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico-chiesa/verletzungen/spieler/341092
This looks like continuous injuries unless i'm missing something here. It would be even more games in our league as we play more games. Then there is the point he's never been the same player since his injury. Lost a pit of pace. Some italian journalists are saying he's only 40% of the player that he used to be. I can't testify to this as i've seen very little of him to comment. But his injury record concerns me. You wonder how his body will handle our league which is a lot more physical.
