Sylvain Marveaux
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[quote author=Roopy link=topic=44487.msg1299473#msg1299473 date=1300069858]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44487.msg1299235#msg1299235 date=1300013920]
Has anyone on here actually seen the lad play yet?
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Marveaux is okay.... another product of the famed Rennes youth academy (one of the best in Europe, also produced Gourcuff)
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As others have suggested, if he's on low enough wages, I don't see a problem with the signing, though we are crying out for some real talent on at least one flank.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44487.msg1299235#msg1299235 date=1300013920]
Has anyone on here actually seen the lad play yet?
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Marveaux is okay.... another product of the famed Rennes youth academy (one of the best in Europe, also produced Gourcuff)
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As others have suggested, if he's on low enough wages, I don't see a problem with the signing, though we are crying out for some real talent on at least one flank.
I haven't seen him so I can't really comment about his ability, but we do need a squad, we've got nothing on the left at all really (unless Suarez will play in the wide left forward berth). I'm ok with this if it's with a view to boosting the squad aswell as buying quality for the first team, providing he's not just another Leto/Gonzalez/El Zhar type.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=44487.msg1299487#msg1299487 date=1300089229]
I don't think he's quite good enough
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You mean Perotti I guess? I think he's quite good and still fairly young. £8m isn't that much money in football these days so he could turn out to be a good buy at that price. That said I'd be disappointed if we didn't get one better attacking player in the summer. If we got Marveaux, Perotti and someone really good I'd be very very happy.
I don't think he's quite good enough
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You mean Perotti I guess? I think he's quite good and still fairly young. £8m isn't that much money in football these days so he could turn out to be a good buy at that price. That said I'd be disappointed if we didn't get one better attacking player in the summer. If we got Marveaux, Perotti and someone really good I'd be very very happy.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44487.msg1299218#msg1299218 date=1300010575]
Has BM given his verdict on this lad?
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Don't think I've ever seen him play. Looking at his stats, he's only really had one great season so far. Definitely a Commoli signing, rather than a Dalglish signing, I would say.
HC, 'signing obvious quality' every time only really works if you've got a City-esque budget. Spending 35m on Carroll inevitably means we'll have to gamble on certain other positions. Must admit I would really really like a top-class winger, though.
Has BM given his verdict on this lad?
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Don't think I've ever seen him play. Looking at his stats, he's only really had one great season so far. Definitely a Commoli signing, rather than a Dalglish signing, I would say.
HC, 'signing obvious quality' every time only really works if you've got a City-esque budget. Spending 35m on Carroll inevitably means we'll have to gamble on certain other positions. Must admit I would really really like a top-class winger, though.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44487.msg1299498#msg1299498 date=1300092139]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44487.msg1299218#msg1299218 date=1300010575]
Has BM given his verdict on this lad?
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Don't think I've ever seen him play. Looking at his stats, he's only really had one great season so far. Definitely a Commoli signing, rather than a Dalglish signing, I would say.
HC, 'signing obvious quality' every time only really works if you've got a City-esque budget. Spending 35m on Carroll inevitably means we'll have to gamble on certain other positions. Must admit I would really really like a top-class winger, though.
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Cheers mate. Perhaps he's one of those who had alot of potential but hasn't really had a chance to show it for whatever reason, hopefully anyway, I can't see them letting him go so easily if he were that good though.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44487.msg1299218#msg1299218 date=1300010575]
Has BM given his verdict on this lad?
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Don't think I've ever seen him play. Looking at his stats, he's only really had one great season so far. Definitely a Commoli signing, rather than a Dalglish signing, I would say.
HC, 'signing obvious quality' every time only really works if you've got a City-esque budget. Spending 35m on Carroll inevitably means we'll have to gamble on certain other positions. Must admit I would really really like a top-class winger, though.
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Cheers mate. Perhaps he's one of those who had alot of potential but hasn't really had a chance to show it for whatever reason, hopefully anyway, I can't see them letting him go so easily if he were that good though.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=44487.msg1299498#msg1299498 date=1300092139]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44487.msg1299218#msg1299218 date=1300010575]
Has BM given his verdict on this lad?
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Don't think I've ever seen him play. Looking at his stats, he's only really had one great season so far. Definitely a Commoli signing, rather than a Dalglish signing, I would say.
HC, 'signing obvious quality' every time only really works if you've got a City-esque budget. Spending 35m on Carroll inevitably means we'll have to gamble on certain other positions. Must admit I would really really like a top-class winger, though.
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It was said half in jest, mate.
We've not mega deep pockets and I'm happy with a sound business model running the club.
I fear we need to splash a fair bit of cash before even taking into consideration of out-goings this summer though if we are get remotely near CL places.
Having a small squad is one thing but our first 11 is still too weak for my liking. We need 2-3 players capable of walking straight in, as our options from the bench are just as poor.
A quality wideman is a must,yeah.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44487.msg1299218#msg1299218 date=1300010575]
Has BM given his verdict on this lad?
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Don't think I've ever seen him play. Looking at his stats, he's only really had one great season so far. Definitely a Commoli signing, rather than a Dalglish signing, I would say.
HC, 'signing obvious quality' every time only really works if you've got a City-esque budget. Spending 35m on Carroll inevitably means we'll have to gamble on certain other positions. Must admit I would really really like a top-class winger, though.
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It was said half in jest, mate.
We've not mega deep pockets and I'm happy with a sound business model running the club.
I fear we need to splash a fair bit of cash before even taking into consideration of out-goings this summer though if we are get remotely near CL places.
Having a small squad is one thing but our first 11 is still too weak for my liking. We need 2-3 players capable of walking straight in, as our options from the bench are just as poor.
A quality wideman is a must,yeah.
Marvaeux is a good player, no doubt about that. Last season was his breakhtrough and this season got hampered with injuries. He's not injury prone though, he's been out 2 times with very serious injuries, which can happen. But they have costed him 2 seaons and has hampered his development.
He's a Malouda type player, but smaller. Very tricky, decent pace and great delivery.
Still 24, so could improve in to a very good player. He has all the attributes to be a good player for us, but if it doesnt work out we can sell him for a decent fee. Win - win
He's a Malouda type player, but smaller. Very tricky, decent pace and great delivery.
Still 24, so could improve in to a very good player. He has all the attributes to be a good player for us, but if it doesnt work out we can sell him for a decent fee. Win - win
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the_khl
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I won't mind him on a free transfer I guess based on the comments by the ones on here who's actually seen him play.
Not going to expect much from him but hopefully he'd be a pleasant surprise.
Not going to expect much from him but hopefully he'd be a pleasant surprise.
The lowdown on Rennes midfielder who claims he is close to Anfield move
Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux has been linked with a move to Liverpool since the end of last year. This weekend, the 24-year-old claimed that he was 'very close' to signing an agreement to join Kenny Dalglish at Anfield this summer.
The former France under-21 international is valued at £7 million but is out of contract at the end of the season.
Ligue 1 expert Robin Bairner shares his insight into the player who might well be playing in front of the Kop next year....
Can he succeed in England?
Players coming out of Ligue 1 tend to be fairly well suited for the Premier League because they are used to playing in a physical environment on a regular basis, so Marveaux would stand a good chance of adapting to life in England. He has been compared before to Florent Malouda. He's technical and strong, but above all, he's quick and powerful. These are all attributes that would suggest he can be successful in England.
How important is he for Rennes?
Marveaux is a player that could potentially be very important to Rennes, but injuries have really prevented him from developing into a top star for them. Indeed, he's not played for Frederic Antonetti's men since the winter break due to a hamstring complaint. Marveaux started the season by picking up a problem on the opening day, but after a month out he became a central figure in the club's positive form. A groin problem in November has ended his season, with only 10 games played and one goal scored. In truth, Rennes have already learned to live without him, with players such as Yacine Brahimi and Jires Kembo-Ekoko - raw but exciting - coming through their ranks.
International class?
He has played for the French under-21 side but is now 24 and is yet to make his debut for the national team. Quite simply, it is because of injuries. He's always been susceptible to strains, missing the European under-19 championships in 2005 due to knee ligament damage. This unwelcome characteristic was most notable during 2008-09, when he missed virtually the whole campaign due to a torn hamstring, playing only the first two games and three of the last four. Though he was highly impressive when he was on the field, clearly his long-term development was hampered, harming his potential to play at the very top level. His natural flair and physical attributes are enough to get by in the domestic game, but with more reliable options out there, he's not been drafted into the France squad yet. Could he be in the future? Potentially, but he'd have to stay fit.
The decent crosser that Liverpool need?
While Marveaux is a wide player, he's featured mainly as one of new breed of wingers who like to be played on the opposite flank, allowing them to cut inside and shoot. Marveaux's skills tend to be in beating players rather than providing quality into the box from a wide area.
Interesting facts?
His brother is Joris, a central midfielder for Montpellier. He played with Yoann Gourcuff in Rennes' youth academy.
Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux has been linked with a move to Liverpool since the end of last year. This weekend, the 24-year-old claimed that he was 'very close' to signing an agreement to join Kenny Dalglish at Anfield this summer.
The former France under-21 international is valued at £7 million but is out of contract at the end of the season.
Ligue 1 expert Robin Bairner shares his insight into the player who might well be playing in front of the Kop next year....
Can he succeed in England?
Players coming out of Ligue 1 tend to be fairly well suited for the Premier League because they are used to playing in a physical environment on a regular basis, so Marveaux would stand a good chance of adapting to life in England. He has been compared before to Florent Malouda. He's technical and strong, but above all, he's quick and powerful. These are all attributes that would suggest he can be successful in England.
How important is he for Rennes?
Marveaux is a player that could potentially be very important to Rennes, but injuries have really prevented him from developing into a top star for them. Indeed, he's not played for Frederic Antonetti's men since the winter break due to a hamstring complaint. Marveaux started the season by picking up a problem on the opening day, but after a month out he became a central figure in the club's positive form. A groin problem in November has ended his season, with only 10 games played and one goal scored. In truth, Rennes have already learned to live without him, with players such as Yacine Brahimi and Jires Kembo-Ekoko - raw but exciting - coming through their ranks.
International class?
He has played for the French under-21 side but is now 24 and is yet to make his debut for the national team. Quite simply, it is because of injuries. He's always been susceptible to strains, missing the European under-19 championships in 2005 due to knee ligament damage. This unwelcome characteristic was most notable during 2008-09, when he missed virtually the whole campaign due to a torn hamstring, playing only the first two games and three of the last four. Though he was highly impressive when he was on the field, clearly his long-term development was hampered, harming his potential to play at the very top level. His natural flair and physical attributes are enough to get by in the domestic game, but with more reliable options out there, he's not been drafted into the France squad yet. Could he be in the future? Potentially, but he'd have to stay fit.
The decent crosser that Liverpool need?
While Marveaux is a wide player, he's featured mainly as one of new breed of wingers who like to be played on the opposite flank, allowing them to cut inside and shoot. Marveaux's skills tend to be in beating players rather than providing quality into the box from a wide area.
Interesting facts?
His brother is Joris, a central midfielder for Montpellier. He played with Yoann Gourcuff in Rennes' youth academy.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44487.msg1299499#msg1299499 date=1300092604]
I just think he'll be another Riera myself. Odd good game but just not good enough
[/quote]Personally I think reira was a big part of our excellent run in the league in 08/09.
while rarely pulling up trees in his first season he was consistently decent, kept the ball, and used it intellegently and gave the team shape.
If Marveux was to give to the team what Reira did in his first season, whille also offering the chance of improving his game in the coming seasons then I would be all on for the signing.
I just think he'll be another Riera myself. Odd good game but just not good enough
[/quote]Personally I think reira was a big part of our excellent run in the league in 08/09.
while rarely pulling up trees in his first season he was consistently decent, kept the ball, and used it intellegently and gave the team shape.
If Marveux was to give to the team what Reira did in his first season, whille also offering the chance of improving his game in the coming seasons then I would be all on for the signing.
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the_khl
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[quote author=the count link=topic=44487.msg1299543#msg1299543 date=1300102194]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44487.msg1299499#msg1299499 date=1300092604]
I just think he'll be another Riera myself. Odd good game but just not good enough
[/quote]Personally I think reira was a big part of our excellent run in the league in 08/09.
while rarely pulling up trees in his first season he was consistently decent, kept the ball, and used it intellegently and gave the team shape.If Marveux was to give to the team what Reira did in his first season, whille also offering the chance of improving his game in the coming seasons then I would be all on for the signing.
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That's my take on Riera as well. From there on he was just highly and mostly frustrating to watch but he made us look good when on form.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44487.msg1299499#msg1299499 date=1300092604]
I just think he'll be another Riera myself. Odd good game but just not good enough
[/quote]Personally I think reira was a big part of our excellent run in the league in 08/09.
while rarely pulling up trees in his first season he was consistently decent, kept the ball, and used it intellegently and gave the team shape.If Marveux was to give to the team what Reira did in his first season, whille also offering the chance of improving his game in the coming seasons then I would be all on for the signing.
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That's my take on Riera as well. From there on he was just highly and mostly frustrating to watch but he made us look good when on form.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44487.msg1299522#msg1299522 date=1300097296]
sounds very injury prone
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Mmm, I guess that's why he's on a free.
sounds very injury prone
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Mmm, I guess that's why he's on a free.
Not sure I like the sound of the bit in Kenny4's post above which says Marveaux isn't so much a crosser of the ball as someone who likes to come inside and shoot. We have people who can do that already. This fella may not give us the width we need.
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the_khl
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44487.msg1299579#msg1299579 date=1300110147]
Not sure I like the sound of the bit in Kenny4's post above which says Marveaux isn't so much a crosser of the ball as someone who likes to come inside and shoot. We have people who can do that already. This fella may not give us the width we need.
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Good point really.
Not sure I like the sound of the bit in Kenny4's post above which says Marveaux isn't so much a crosser of the ball as someone who likes to come inside and shoot. We have people who can do that already. This fella may not give us the width we need.
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Good point really.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44487.msg1299579#msg1299579 date=1300110147]
Not sure I like the sound of the bit in Kenny4's post above which says Marveaux isn't so much a crosser of the ball as someone who likes to come inside and shoot. We have people who can do that already. This fella may not give us the width we need.
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having read that bit that was my concern too
Not sure I like the sound of the bit in Kenny4's post above which says Marveaux isn't so much a crosser of the ball as someone who likes to come inside and shoot. We have people who can do that already. This fella may not give us the width we need.
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having read that bit that was my concern too
French winger set for Reds
Marveaux to arrive on free transfer
Skysports.com understands Liverpool have agreed a pre-contract to sign Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux.
Marveaux, who is out of contract at Rennes at the end of the season, has been a long-term target for the Reds.
Rennes are resigned to losing the 24-year-old when his contract expires and Liverpool are thought to have agreed a deal to bring Marveaux to Anfield.
The Premier League outfit are thought to have beaten off interest from a number of clubs to land the highly-rated winger.
Reds boss Kenny Dalglish is keen to bolster his options in wide areas and he sees Marveaux as someone who will help provide ammunition for new strikeforce Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez.
Liverpool director of football Damien Comolli has been pushing for a deal for Marveaux and he is expected to be the first of many arrivals at Liverpool this summer.
Scout report on Sylvain from another site:
Words by Bastien Leclair
I was asked to put together a blog regarding Rennes’ Sylvain Marveaux, the Reds’ long awaited Bosman signing in view of next season. While some uncertainty remains regarding his arrival at Anfield , it seems fair to say that a move to anywhere else than Merseyside would be a surprise, if not a relative upset from the part of the attacking midfielder.
So I’ve first thought of writing a portrait of the player, but this has already been done and you could find much information on his career, his goals, his stats or his recent difficulties in Rennes across the web. Instead, I preferred to try and put together a report on the player, providing you with the sort of information I think Liverpool fans would like to know regarding his skills, his attitude on and off the pitch, his strengths and weaknesses, and his particularities.
PHYSICAL ABILITY
He has pace, deadly pace, he is very capable of eliminating a defence on a single acceleration. He will take the ball and go through knocks and shocks to reach his target, a goal or a good pass. He can stay on his legs, no doubt about it, and although he isn’t of the strongest build he shouldn’t be worried with the strength of English defenders. His game made of acceleration can lead him to natural fatigue in the closing stages, but when in good shape he is perfectly able to contribute 90 minutes week-in week-out and bring his fair share of goals and assists.
In fact, his weakness lies inside. While he rarely gives up on the pitch himself, his body has been regulating things for him. He is an athlete, a powerfully legged sprinter, and his thighs have often been a strain to his progression. In summer 2008, after a good first season and a disappointing second term, he picked up a benign thigh injury during a France U21 game. Recovery should have been straightforward, but instead he met calcification issues and was forced to undergo surgery… he would miss the following 8 months. Tough luck can strike anyone, true, but the same thing happened to him once again this season, and a minor thigh muscle strain against Brest in November was enough to rule him out for the rest of the current campaign.
TECHNICAL ABILITY
Are you looking for a left foot? His can do everything you could dream of. He can pass, control, dribble, deliver or shoot with surgical precision. Sylvain Marveaux has taken Ligue 1 by surprise in 2009-2010 with his ability to regulate Rennes’ game, and despite his positioning on the left, he certainly was Rennes’ real playmaker throughout the season. He can take free-kicks like this one, deliver assists or make the difference by himself relying on a fantastic left-foot (Video). And his ability and elegance when dribbling through an adverse defence is something one rarely sees and thoroughly enjoys…
He relies nearly exclusively on his left foot however, and his right foot and head are of no use in his game. In fact, Marveaux will always look at placing the ball back on his left foot even for a simple pass, and will often lose the opportunity to deliver or build on the momentum he could have gained on his opponent. Also, Marveaux will invariably lose a challenge in the air. He hasn’t got the jumping ability, the timing or the stature for those aerial contests, and he isn’t usually that bothered.
INTELLIGENCE
Marveaux was trained as a central midfielder, and this is something one can very easily realise when watching him twirl across a square expanding from the left touch-line to the centre of the field. He mainly plays in a left winger position, but he isn’t anything like a left winger. And although it could not quite be branded a lack of intelligence, he lacks many of the qualities required of a true winger and especially the tactical finesse required to exploit the flank with full efficiency.
While he could make the best out of his pace and skills alternating runs down the wing and cuts through to centre as a Nani or a Valencia, Marveaux is compulsively attracted to the centre, no matter what. Cutting out is certainly all right, but cutting out from the left when you only have a left foot can sometimes be a handicap. On top of this, his crossing ability is nearly inexistent, and he will always favour a central or individual solution to a transmission to his left back running up the field. The decision is sometimes justified by a scoring action (10 goals and 5 assists last season) but an ability to open eyes to options other than the obvious would be a definite added value to his game.
On the other hand, he sometimes showed an ability to pick up the perfect pass in sometimes spectacular style, and his runs without the ball are often well-inspired and making the assist an easy exercise for his team-mates. With the good guidance and advice, he could certainly correct some of the defaults above and show more of these flashes of superb vision.
ATTITUDE
Again, despite his talent and ability, Marveaux could improve loads on this field. In a 4-3-3 system such as Rennes’ and in most modern tactical set-ups (In which full backs are called to play a major attacking role) defensive work is a necessity for the attacking flankers. Not only failing to notice the wing-rushes of his left-back counterpart, Marveaux has often been blamed for failing to accomplish his defensive work, whether it is an initial pressing or returns to cover the flank. As a result, great moments of solitude for the men standing behind him, such a Carlos Bocanegra, often let alone to deal with two or three opponents last season, without a hope to see his team-mate rush to his rescue.
Rennes Manager Frederic Antonetti himself admitted that Marveaux’ lack of work was acceptable as long as his attacking input remained as impressive as it was last season. Many coaches could rightfully consider some of Marveaux’ attitudes on the pitch as disrespectful to the team effort.
As a graduate of Rennes Academy having gone through the youth teams at the club, Marveaux may well be receiving too much indulgence for his ineffective defensive work. His self-confidence is high, maybe a bit too high, and the wise words of a manager able to make him question himself and his work for the team could be a massive boost to his career. He is able to do the work however, and even started his Ligue 1 career covering for injuries at left back. Little doubt he will give more in that field if a starting eleven position was to be at stake.
OFF THE PITCH
As far as I know, the latest former Rennes player ever to have played for Liverpool was El Hadji Diouf. No worries there. Few players bear a natural talent comparable to the Senegalese’s, and I wouldn’t think Marveaux’ raw talent really is up to that standard, but even less players have an attitude and temper as negative as Diouf’s. Sylvain Marveaux is certainly a modern football player, liking his nights out, his cars, his caps (he loves caps) and all the good things life has to offer to a wealthy young man. He has never made any headlines for wrong reasons however, nor did his brother Joris (who plays in Ligue 1 for Montpellier), and his off the pitch attitude should certainly not be any worry towards his recruitment by the Reds…
Marveaux to arrive on free transfer
Skysports.com understands Liverpool have agreed a pre-contract to sign Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux.
Marveaux, who is out of contract at Rennes at the end of the season, has been a long-term target for the Reds.
Rennes are resigned to losing the 24-year-old when his contract expires and Liverpool are thought to have agreed a deal to bring Marveaux to Anfield.
The Premier League outfit are thought to have beaten off interest from a number of clubs to land the highly-rated winger.
Reds boss Kenny Dalglish is keen to bolster his options in wide areas and he sees Marveaux as someone who will help provide ammunition for new strikeforce Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez.
Liverpool director of football Damien Comolli has been pushing for a deal for Marveaux and he is expected to be the first of many arrivals at Liverpool this summer.
Scout report on Sylvain from another site:
Words by Bastien Leclair
I was asked to put together a blog regarding Rennes’ Sylvain Marveaux, the Reds’ long awaited Bosman signing in view of next season. While some uncertainty remains regarding his arrival at Anfield , it seems fair to say that a move to anywhere else than Merseyside would be a surprise, if not a relative upset from the part of the attacking midfielder.
So I’ve first thought of writing a portrait of the player, but this has already been done and you could find much information on his career, his goals, his stats or his recent difficulties in Rennes across the web. Instead, I preferred to try and put together a report on the player, providing you with the sort of information I think Liverpool fans would like to know regarding his skills, his attitude on and off the pitch, his strengths and weaknesses, and his particularities.
PHYSICAL ABILITY
He has pace, deadly pace, he is very capable of eliminating a defence on a single acceleration. He will take the ball and go through knocks and shocks to reach his target, a goal or a good pass. He can stay on his legs, no doubt about it, and although he isn’t of the strongest build he shouldn’t be worried with the strength of English defenders. His game made of acceleration can lead him to natural fatigue in the closing stages, but when in good shape he is perfectly able to contribute 90 minutes week-in week-out and bring his fair share of goals and assists.
In fact, his weakness lies inside. While he rarely gives up on the pitch himself, his body has been regulating things for him. He is an athlete, a powerfully legged sprinter, and his thighs have often been a strain to his progression. In summer 2008, after a good first season and a disappointing second term, he picked up a benign thigh injury during a France U21 game. Recovery should have been straightforward, but instead he met calcification issues and was forced to undergo surgery… he would miss the following 8 months. Tough luck can strike anyone, true, but the same thing happened to him once again this season, and a minor thigh muscle strain against Brest in November was enough to rule him out for the rest of the current campaign.
TECHNICAL ABILITY
Are you looking for a left foot? His can do everything you could dream of. He can pass, control, dribble, deliver or shoot with surgical precision. Sylvain Marveaux has taken Ligue 1 by surprise in 2009-2010 with his ability to regulate Rennes’ game, and despite his positioning on the left, he certainly was Rennes’ real playmaker throughout the season. He can take free-kicks like this one, deliver assists or make the difference by himself relying on a fantastic left-foot (Video). And his ability and elegance when dribbling through an adverse defence is something one rarely sees and thoroughly enjoys…
He relies nearly exclusively on his left foot however, and his right foot and head are of no use in his game. In fact, Marveaux will always look at placing the ball back on his left foot even for a simple pass, and will often lose the opportunity to deliver or build on the momentum he could have gained on his opponent. Also, Marveaux will invariably lose a challenge in the air. He hasn’t got the jumping ability, the timing or the stature for those aerial contests, and he isn’t usually that bothered.
INTELLIGENCE
Marveaux was trained as a central midfielder, and this is something one can very easily realise when watching him twirl across a square expanding from the left touch-line to the centre of the field. He mainly plays in a left winger position, but he isn’t anything like a left winger. And although it could not quite be branded a lack of intelligence, he lacks many of the qualities required of a true winger and especially the tactical finesse required to exploit the flank with full efficiency.
While he could make the best out of his pace and skills alternating runs down the wing and cuts through to centre as a Nani or a Valencia, Marveaux is compulsively attracted to the centre, no matter what. Cutting out is certainly all right, but cutting out from the left when you only have a left foot can sometimes be a handicap. On top of this, his crossing ability is nearly inexistent, and he will always favour a central or individual solution to a transmission to his left back running up the field. The decision is sometimes justified by a scoring action (10 goals and 5 assists last season) but an ability to open eyes to options other than the obvious would be a definite added value to his game.
On the other hand, he sometimes showed an ability to pick up the perfect pass in sometimes spectacular style, and his runs without the ball are often well-inspired and making the assist an easy exercise for his team-mates. With the good guidance and advice, he could certainly correct some of the defaults above and show more of these flashes of superb vision.
ATTITUDE
Again, despite his talent and ability, Marveaux could improve loads on this field. In a 4-3-3 system such as Rennes’ and in most modern tactical set-ups (In which full backs are called to play a major attacking role) defensive work is a necessity for the attacking flankers. Not only failing to notice the wing-rushes of his left-back counterpart, Marveaux has often been blamed for failing to accomplish his defensive work, whether it is an initial pressing or returns to cover the flank. As a result, great moments of solitude for the men standing behind him, such a Carlos Bocanegra, often let alone to deal with two or three opponents last season, without a hope to see his team-mate rush to his rescue.
Rennes Manager Frederic Antonetti himself admitted that Marveaux’ lack of work was acceptable as long as his attacking input remained as impressive as it was last season. Many coaches could rightfully consider some of Marveaux’ attitudes on the pitch as disrespectful to the team effort.
As a graduate of Rennes Academy having gone through the youth teams at the club, Marveaux may well be receiving too much indulgence for his ineffective defensive work. His self-confidence is high, maybe a bit too high, and the wise words of a manager able to make him question himself and his work for the team could be a massive boost to his career. He is able to do the work however, and even started his Ligue 1 career covering for injuries at left back. Little doubt he will give more in that field if a starting eleven position was to be at stake.
OFF THE PITCH
As far as I know, the latest former Rennes player ever to have played for Liverpool was El Hadji Diouf. No worries there. Few players bear a natural talent comparable to the Senegalese’s, and I wouldn’t think Marveaux’ raw talent really is up to that standard, but even less players have an attitude and temper as negative as Diouf’s. Sylvain Marveaux is certainly a modern football player, liking his nights out, his cars, his caps (he loves caps) and all the good things life has to offer to a wealthy young man. He has never made any headlines for wrong reasons however, nor did his brother Joris (who plays in Ligue 1 for Montpellier), and his off the pitch attitude should certainly not be any worry towards his recruitment by the Reds…
I'm just as concerned by the things we keep hearing, in that article and others before it, about his constant running inside off his wing. He may start games out wide but he doesn't stay there for any length of time, so it doesn't look as though we can expect much in the way of crossing from him. The impression I get is that it's very much Comolli who has a real bee in his bonnet about this guy. I hope that's not all there is to it.
Fair enough, but if he's not a true wide man (which he doesn't seem to be), is he actually what we need?
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Another injury-prone player, fantastic!
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So that we're left with Cole, Jovo and the Dirk. Fuck no. I'd rather have a one legged Marveaux on the pitch.
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Another injury-prone player, fantastic!
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So that we're left with Cole, Jovo and the Dirk. Fuck no. I'd rather have a one legged Marveaux on the pitch.
regards
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