But we could get Suarez for 22. Please please lighten up old champ.
Sterling Deal Complete: 49 million (44 + 5)
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But we could get Suarez for 22. Please please lighten up old champ.
I'm not pretending to know the first thing about add ons. Let alone have confidence in the idea.
I am just saying that businessmen care about the bottom line, they don't care about face. At all. Well, the good ones don't, anyway.
Macca decided about 2 months ago that the club would fuck up this sale and he's going to spend the next 2 years trying to prove it.
I just find some of these posts to be serving a neurotic desire to convince the people who post them that none of the bad things have happened and all is good. Take any business deal, for example: someone comes up and tells you there's a deal in place for less than you wanted, and about £8m is owed to the previous company anyway, but there are these agreements in place for, potentially, a certain amount more. Would you really celebrate the extra amount before you were told exactly what these agreements were and given some kind of timetable as to when they might be triggered??? Surely you would. Yet this 'full' fee has been accepted on here in the most absurdly credulous fashion. Then there's the long term damage to the club thanks to the precedent that's been set in terms of who stands firm when it comes to clashes with problem players and the most astonishingly unprofessional agents. That's irrecoverable. People dismissed that point when I raised it at the very start of this thread, then miraculously started saying the same thing mid way through it, and now dismiss it again. Through logic? No. Through convenience. Most of the money we do get in this deal will simply take the place of the money FSG would have made available from existing funds for the next budget. And then you have to rely on the transfer committee - I take it, in this spirit of twitchy revisionism on here, that this committee is now highly rated? Thought so. Well I simply disagree. Once the strained celebrations die down, I think more will agree.
I'll read them later Macca, as off out now, but I doubt they'll change my mind. All I see is a negative influence who would never have been the same for us, never have played well for us, if at all, leaving the club in exchange for nearly 50mill.
My one concern? How the money will be reinvested.?
A sad and petty little snipe from you. I may as well simply say the same about you, mutatis mutandis, but I've more class.
You're being ridiculous about this.
Contingent fees form a part of the majority of transfers. £5m of £49m is a small proportion of the total. By all accounts the conditions are quite modest. Sterling's a young player and has loads of risk attached - incentives are appropriate, more than in most transfers. £50m was a very ambitious asking price in the first place. To compromise so little is better than in the vast majority of transfers.
Just admit it: the club did OK on this one.
I think you meant MCFC, not MUFC.
My point being that if you ask any businessman worth his salt if he cares about his reputation or ££££ in his pocket, he'll give you one answer. That's not to say one can't affect the other, it obviously can and does.
I just don't see how face is relevant here. I really don't.
Heh - Whoops..
Face is only relevant when it comes to the elbow that will hit Sterlings when we play City
And if this sad saga hadn't happened, no one on here, surely, would be contesting that Sterling is an excellent player with plenty of potential to get even better for us. But as he's gone, and under these circumstances, there's been an embarrassing switch to 'they've signed a shite player for loads of money, ha ha ha!' I doubt many will be so cheery in the hours leading up to the next game against Man City, with Sterling set to link up with the likes of Silva and Aguero.
Yep, Sterling is a massive loss, whatever we got for him.
Including whatever add ons we may or may not receive.
Including whatever add ons we may or may not receive.
He's a good player who's struggled to maintain the form he showed in the early part of the season. I don't think he's 'excellent' - but he has the potential to be, and as he did when he had no pressure with us (i.e. Suarez and Studge doing their thing), he'll do very well with City if they play him enough (I don't think he'll do well if they rotate him in and out too much).
I think we've done a good job of getting him off our books. He's doe a complete 180 - look at his early words wrt Rodgers etc - and he's left a club that treated him really well ... he was clearly already on the 'wrong path' here in the 2nd half of last season, and I think though most of the blame is on his agent, Sterling was ready to move on ... He's done it in a way though where most neutral fans hate him, and it will be interesting to see how he deals with all the negative pressure ...
New chapter for us - and I do hope Ibe and the other youngsters are ready to take advantage of the extra opportunities they'll get ... Hopefully good will come from this for us.
Wait till you read the letter Jim Boardman has written to Sterling
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/open-letter-raheem-sterling-liverpool-6054005
That's so embarrassing.
Incidentally, are QPR now about to collect their add on, or is that something different?
Best thing is that he's gone early in pre-season when we're trying to build a team and integrate the new players.
If this circus had been poisoning our pre-season it would have been harder to create the mentality we will need to start the season well.
He's a big loss, our best player last season but we have bought well so far and plugged some big gaps. We won't miss Sterling if we put together a solid team. He's been a multi-purpose player and we have enough of those, it's time to build a strong spine.
If this circus had been poisoning our pre-season it would have been harder to create the mentality we will need to start the season well.
He's a big loss, our best player last season but we have bought well so far and plugged some big gaps. We won't miss Sterling if we put together a solid team. He's been a multi-purpose player and we have enough of those, it's time to build a strong spine.
Images of Brendan @ImagesofBrendan 2h2 hours ago
"In one of these envelopes is an open letter from Jim Boardman addressed to a Liverpool player. Don't let it be you."
"In one of these envelopes is an open letter from Jim Boardman addressed to a Liverpool player. Don't let it be you."
Terry McDermott@TerryMac777 4h4 hours ago
So effectively its £49m plus James Milner for Sterling from Manchester City....fantastic business for us#lfc
So effectively its £49m plus James Milner for Sterling from Manchester City....fantastic business for us
Well Terry, effectively it's not.
FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK WE DON'T GET 49 FUCKING MILLION SO STOP EVERYONE FUCKING SAYING IT.
44M minus 25%. That's what we get. We end up with what we paid for Andy Carroll.
No it isn't. James' wages a little oversight there from Terry
Why is everyone so fucking thick?
Still a cracking deal all considering
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