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So who do we want/expect/hope?

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I watched some of the post match interviews the Chelsea players did and most of them said winning the CL was the biggest thing they've ever done. Now these are PL, Fa cup and League Cup winners.
Rafa took us to two finals, semi and quarter finals in that competition.
I think some of you are taking what he did for the club for granted.

Doesn't matter though the owners don't fancy him, which is strange and they'd rather gamble with someone like AVB or Martinez.
I'd like to add that I'd support both of them, though I'd prefer Martinez.
But if we start fucking up like we've done these past few years, there's gonna be some disgruntled fans in the Kop and I bet you they'll start chanting for Benitez come December.
 
I watched some of the post match interviews the Chelsea players did and most of them said winning the CL was the biggest thing they've ever done. Now these are PL, Fa cup and League Cup winners.
Rafa took us to two finals, semi and quarter finals in that competition.
I think some of you are taking what he did for the club for granted.

Doesn't matter though the owners don't fancy him, which is strange and they'd rather gamble with someone like AVB or Martinez.
I'd like to add that I'd support both of them, though I'd prefer Martinez.
But if we start fucking up like we've done these past few years, there's gonna be some disgruntled fans in the Kop and I bet you they'll start chanting for Benitez come December.
Thats because most Fans are knee jerk fuckers these days.
And nobody takes winning the champions league for granted. Some just dont want to pretend there wasnt a decline as the years went by (resulting in 7th place).
Rafa had his chance and was given total free reign to run the club and fucked it up.
So lets move on.
 
Thats because most Fans are knee jerk fuckers these days.
And nobody takes winning the champions league for granted. Some just dont want to pretend there wasnt a decline as the years went by (resulting in 7th place).
Rafa had his chance and was given total free reign to run the club and fucked it up.
So lets move on.
I wanted him out just like about 80% of this forum. I do remember the bad times, the times he decided to start with Voronin, bench Babel, subbing Gerrard etc. But I want to believe that he's learned from his mistakes and after seeing his interview with BBC, I felt even more confident.
Alas, my first option Mourinho isn't coming.
My second option, Löw hasn't even been asked.
My third option is Rafa.
 
I don't want Rafa because I've already seen that episode. It was fairly good but I want to watch a new episode now.
The risk is there is no new series, and we will end up watching repeats on Dave forever - the old black & white ones are good, but the more recent post 1990 ones just dont seem to have the same edge.

Should have done a Fawlty Towers and stopped at our peak
 
Tbf Roy and Kenny never had much of a chance after the state Benitez left the club in. Rafa's down there with Paisley as one of the worst European Cup-winning managers we've ever had.

Exactly. Although I prefer to block that whole terrible time out of my mind.
 
I'll never understand the Rafa detractors. I'd give my right arm for 05 to 2010 now. Someone said "the state he left the club in" - you must be confusing him with h and g. I thought he left us a pretty good team.
 
I'll never understand the Rafa detractors. I'd give my right arm for 05 to 2010 now. Someone said "the state he left the club in" - you must be confusing him with h and g. I thought he left us a pretty good team.

He left us a dispirited, confused bunch of underperformers who had no confidence in him as a manager........... not to mention someone who'd left the fans questioning if he really wanted to win or just take pot shots at owners.

Check De Boer for someone who just gets on with the job rather than looking for excuses.

TBF I'm well aware that GH and Kenny pointed at different things as excuses but none of them seemed to go out of their way to generate an issue.
 
I think managers turning us down left and right has more to do with our selection process than us being a poor option. if you open enter the interview process and fail then you will look less than commited to your current team and to fans that is toxic.
 
He left us a dispirited, confused bunch of underperformers who had no confidence in him as a manager........... not to mention someone who'd left the fans questioning if he really wanted to win or just take pot shots at owners.

Exactly. Although I prefer to block that whole terrible time out of my mind.
 
I don't want Rafa because I've already seen that episode. It was fairly good but I want to watch a new episode now.

Capello - Simpsons
was fantastic in it's day but is now old, tired and frankly boring

Rafa - Fraiser
was great went it was last on, achieved cult status. only half of the people 'get' it. lots of people would welcome a return but most want something new and fresh.

AVB - Fringe
started with a bang and then lost momentum when moved to prime time (friday night slot), close to being cancelled but has been picked up for another season, has a chance of greatness but could just as easily suck

Martinez - Red Dwarf
did absolute wonders with a small budget, was new and fresh but the worry is something being lost in translation with a big budget and large audience

Rodgers - Family Guy
thinks it's better than it actually is

Guardiola - Dexter
Absolutely fantastic but has lost a bit of momentum and needs to take a bit of break and get back to what made it great in the first place. May need to leave the 'comfort zone' to be considered a true great.

Kenny - Nightrider
everyone loved it when they were kids. the return was a bit of a disaster but it will always hold a special place in our hearts
 
Capello - Simpsons
was fantastic in it's day but is now old, tired and frankly boring

Rafa - Fraiser
was great went it was last on, achieved cult status. only half of the people 'get' it. lots of people would welcome a return but most want something new and fresh.

AVB - Fringe
started with a bang and then lost momentum when moved to prime time (friday night slot), close to being cancelled but has been picked up for another season, has a chance of greatness but could just as easily suck

Martinez - Red Dwarf
did absolute wonders with a small budget, was new and fresh but the worry is something being lost in translation with a big budget and large audience

Rodgers - Family Guy
thinks it's better than it actually is

Guardiola - Dexter
Absolutely fantastic but has lost a bit of momentum and needs to take a bit of break and get back to what made it great in the first place

Did you do this Spidey? Nice humorous analogising, oh yes.
 
If all our top candidates are being rejected, then give Sami Hyypia a ring. If that arrogant tosspot Ballack says everyone respects and listens to Sami, then that's good enough for me. Obviously, I have absolutely nothing else to base my preference on, but Sami Hyypia inspires all kinds of irrational faith in me.
 
I think managers turning us down left and right has more to do with our selection process than us being a poor option. if you open enter the interview process and fail then you will look less than commited to your current team and to fans that is toxic.
Roberto Martinez continues to lead the race to become Liverpool’s new manager ahead of a second round of talks with the club’s American owners, which are due to take place within the next 48 hours.

Sources have told Goal.com that the Wigan Athletic boss held preliminary discussions with the club, believed to be in Liverpool, on Sunday.

This came after Andre Villas-Boas, the other main candidate to replace Kenny Dalglish, had a meeting with Fenway Sports Group (FSG), the club’s owner, in Boston at the end of last week.

Martinez is now scheduled to hold a more formal round of discussions with Liverpool in the next few days. He is expected to meet with the chairman Tom Werner and Ed Weiss, FSG’s in-house lawyer.

Goal.com understands that Martinez, 38, is the favourite for the vacant position, with Villas-Boas his closest rival for the post.

The Portuguese, who is available after being sacked by Chelsea in March, is believed to have made a favourable impression with FSG when he met them at their Boston base.

Despite his claim that he is intent on choosing the “right project” before committing himself, Villas-Boas is said to regard the Liverpool job as one of the most attractive in Europe.

Martinez was granted permission by Wigan to speak to Liverpool last Thursday after being sounded out about his interest in the post through third parties the previous week.

FSG believe Martinez fits their criteria of being young, dynamic and capable of introducing a footballing ethos which runs through all levels at the club.

Wigan’s spectacular finish to the Premier League campaign, which saw them comfortably avoid relegation by seven points after a series of convincing victories over marquee clubs, has significantly enhanced his reputation, but FSG has also been impressed by his skill in creating attractive teams who are able to punch above their weight.

Despite Liverpool being linked with a string of high profile managers, it is believed that the three main candidates identified by FSG at the start of the process were Martinez, Villas-Boas and Brendan Rodgers.

The Swansea City manager declined Liverpool’s approach after being made aware that he was not the front-runner to succeed Dalglish, who was sacked last Wednesday.

Should Martinez’s imminent talks with Liverpool’s high command proceed smoothly, there is even a possibility he could be offered the job this week.
 
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