I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
So.. O'Neill anyone ?
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[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=42126.msg1187366#msg1187366 date=1286124477]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=42126.msg1187355#msg1187355 date=1286124177]
With all due respect to "organised and hard to beat", I don't like the sound of it. :'(
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I hear you but its better than unorganised and easy to beat...eh?
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My view is similar to that of some others who've pointed out - it's like a sideway move. We aren't capable of defending well now, thks to our LB injury crisis and G.Johnson. Its not so much of the manager not being able to get the defensive play working. We've stuck so long to being organized that we've become void of ideas when it comes to attacking.
[quote author=Binny link=topic=42126.msg1187355#msg1187355 date=1286124177]
With all due respect to "organised and hard to beat", I don't like the sound of it. :'(
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I hear you but its better than unorganised and easy to beat...eh?
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My view is similar to that of some others who've pointed out - it's like a sideway move. We aren't capable of defending well now, thks to our LB injury crisis and G.Johnson. Its not so much of the manager not being able to get the defensive play working. We've stuck so long to being organized that we've become void of ideas when it comes to attacking.
I can hand on heart say if kenny were having this disasterous start I would have more patience because
a) it's fucking kenny
if anyone deserved patience it would be him
b) he had a terrible start to his management for us the first time round (I think) and look how he turned it around
c) he's a winner.
he was a winner on the pitch and he was a winner in the dug out.
you look at kennys CV (admittedly 10 years out of date) he's a winner, you look at roy's CV and he is mediocrity, fuck it, I'd take medicority this is WORSE than mediocrity
a) it's fucking kenny
if anyone deserved patience it would be him
b) he had a terrible start to his management for us the first time round (I think) and look how he turned it around
c) he's a winner.
he was a winner on the pitch and he was a winner in the dug out.
you look at kennys CV (admittedly 10 years out of date) he's a winner, you look at roy's CV and he is mediocrity, fuck it, I'd take medicority this is WORSE than mediocrity
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=42126.msg1187383#msg1187383 date=1286124937]
I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
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I agree but I want that to be the atletico madrid manager.
I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
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I agree but I want that to be the atletico madrid manager.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=42126.msg1187383#msg1187383 date=1286124937]
I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
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I thought the exact same thing after Bolton - Utd. I want someone passionate, who will give the players a bollocking if things aren't working. Who understands the game and has a clue on how to actually get a team balanced.
I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
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I thought the exact same thing after Bolton - Utd. I want someone passionate, who will give the players a bollocking if things aren't working. Who understands the game and has a clue on how to actually get a team balanced.
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It's all pointless really, because we're not going to sack Roy unless we get new owners.
I'd like the German manager to come and rip this squad apart and build from fresh. It's what we've should have done this summer.
I'd like the German manager to come and rip this squad apart and build from fresh. It's what we've should have done this summer.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=42126.msg1187383#msg1187383 date=1286124937]
I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
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i like coyle as well - i think he's got something. massive, massvie punt though. maybe too big a one at this point. but at the very least it'd inspire me, i think; ever since roy arrived i've felt completely flat about the whole club, and that's a very strange feeling for me, very strange.
I'd prefer Owen Coyle if we dont appoint Kenny.
Give a young (relatively speaking) up & coming manager a chance.
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i like coyle as well - i think he's got something. massive, massvie punt though. maybe too big a one at this point. but at the very least it'd inspire me, i think; ever since roy arrived i've felt completely flat about the whole club, and that's a very strange feeling for me, very strange.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42126.msg1187363#msg1187363 date=1286124413]
I want our next manager to be young latin suave and dapper.
Grey v neck pullovers and perfect italian slacks.
No more fat slow drooling pie eating useless go compare motherfuckers. I wanna half wanna fuck our manager not race to get to the pasta line before him because he wouldnt leave me any.
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I think I both laughed and cried
I want our next manager to be young latin suave and dapper.
Grey v neck pullovers and perfect italian slacks.
No more fat slow drooling pie eating useless go compare motherfuckers. I wanna half wanna fuck our manager not race to get to the pasta line before him because he wouldnt leave me any.
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I think I both laughed and cried
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=42126.msg1187663#msg1187663 date=1286139022]
It's like asking would you like death by vampire or werewolf.
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or death by budgie or bouncing irish tosspot.
It's like asking would you like death by vampire or werewolf.
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or death by budgie or bouncing irish tosspot.
[quote author=crump link=topic=42126.msg1187669#msg1187669 date=1286139200]
Hodgson just seems like some dickhead brought to bring the bad news at this point.
I want Rafa's and two yank's heads on a fork right next to the Shankly statue.
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The two yanks yes - Rafa never. I'll never think otherwise than he did what he felt was the right thing for the club.
Hodgson just seems like some dickhead brought to bring the bad news at this point.
I want Rafa's and two yank's heads on a fork right next to the Shankly statue.
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The two yanks yes - Rafa never. I'll never think otherwise than he did what he felt was the right thing for the club.
Appearances for the 2008-2009 season Finished Second
Player PL FA LC CL Total
Jamie Carragher 38 3 1 12 54 .............................. Still here
Jose Reina 38 2 0 11 51 ......................................Still here
Dirk Kuyt 38 2 0 11 51 ........................................Still here
Xabi Alonso 33 3 1 10 47 ..................................... Sorely missed but LIVERPOOL are bigger than one man
Steven Gerrard 31 3 0 10 44 ...............................Still here
Ãlvaro Arbeloa 29 2 0 12 43 ............................... Gone
Yossi Benayoun 32 1 0 9 42 ................................Gone and replaced with Joe COle and 6 Million quid! IMPROVEMENT
Ryan Babel 27 3 2 10 42 .....................................Still here
Albert Riera 28 3 0 9 40 ......................................replaced with Jovanovic Possible improvement?
Lucas Leiva 25 2 2 10 39 .....................................Still here
Fernando Torres 24 3 2 9 38 .................................Still here
Javier Mascherano 27 3 0 8 38 .............................Gone and ROY replaced with POULSON
Fábio Aurélio 24 1 0 8 33 ....................................Still here
Martin Skrtel 21 2 0 7 30 .....................................Still here
Robbie Keane 19 1 1 7 28....................................Gone and ROY still hasn't replaced nor did Rafa for a whole fucking year so 2 years and counting!
Daniel Agger 18 1 2 5 26 ....................................Still here
Andrea Dossena 16 2 1 7 26 ...............................Gone thank FUCK
Sami Hyypia 16 1 2 0 19 ....................................Sorely missed
David N'Gog 14 0 2 3 19 ......................................Still here
Nabil El Zhar 15 0 2 2 19 .....................................Useless cunts gone
Emiliano Insúa 10 1 2 0 13 ..................................Ditto and replaced with Konchesky VAST IMPROVEMENT
Damien Plessis 1 0 2 2 5 ....................................See above and above
Diego Cavalieri 0 1 2 1 4 ......................................gone not missed
Jermaine Pennant 3 0 1 0 4 .................................Ditto useless cunt Replaced with Maxi IMPROVEMENT?
Stephen Darby 0 0 1 1 2 .....................................Still here
Jay Spearing 0 0 0 2 2 ........................................Still here
Philipp Degen 0 0 2 0 2........................................gone not missed
Martin Kelly 0 0 0 1 1 ........................................Still here
Appearances for the 2010-2011 season 3rd from bottom at the mo
Player PL LC EL Total
Jamie Carragher 7 0 4 11
Jose Reina 7 0 4 11
David N'Gog 5 1 5 11
Lucas Leiva 4 1 6 11
Martin Skrtel 7 0 4 11
Glen Johnson 7 0 3 10
Milan Jovanovi? 6 1 3 10
Maxi Rodriguez 5 0 4 9
Joe Cole 4 0 5 9
Daniel Agger 6 1 2 9
Fernando Torres 7 0 2 9
Steven Gerrard 7 0 1 8
Christian Poulsen 5 0 3 8
Martin Kelly 0 1 6 7
Dirk Kuyt 5 0 2 7
Sotirios Kyrgiakos 1 1 4 6
Ryan Babel 2 1 3 6
Raul Meireles 4 0 2 6
Dani Pacheco 1 1 3 5
Jay Spearing 0 1 3 4
Paul Konchesky 3 0 1 4
Nathan Eccleston 0 1 2 3
Diego Cavalieri 0 0 2 2
Alberto Aquilani 0 0 2 2
Fábio Aurélio 0 0 2 2
Stephen Darby 0 0 1 1
Javier Mascherano 1 0 0 1
Jonjo Shelvey 0 1 0 1
Danny Wilson 0 1 0 1
Thomas Ince 0 1 0 1
David Amoo 0 0 1 1
Brad Jones 0 1 0 1
Lauri Dalla Valle 0 0 1 1
Player PL FA LC CL Total
Jamie Carragher 38 3 1 12 54 .............................. Still here
Jose Reina 38 2 0 11 51 ......................................Still here
Dirk Kuyt 38 2 0 11 51 ........................................Still here
Xabi Alonso 33 3 1 10 47 ..................................... Sorely missed but LIVERPOOL are bigger than one man
Steven Gerrard 31 3 0 10 44 ...............................Still here
Ãlvaro Arbeloa 29 2 0 12 43 ............................... Gone
Yossi Benayoun 32 1 0 9 42 ................................Gone and replaced with Joe COle and 6 Million quid! IMPROVEMENT
Ryan Babel 27 3 2 10 42 .....................................Still here
Albert Riera 28 3 0 9 40 ......................................replaced with Jovanovic Possible improvement?
Lucas Leiva 25 2 2 10 39 .....................................Still here
Fernando Torres 24 3 2 9 38 .................................Still here
Javier Mascherano 27 3 0 8 38 .............................Gone and ROY replaced with POULSON
Fábio Aurélio 24 1 0 8 33 ....................................Still here
Martin Skrtel 21 2 0 7 30 .....................................Still here
Robbie Keane 19 1 1 7 28....................................Gone and ROY still hasn't replaced nor did Rafa for a whole fucking year so 2 years and counting!
Daniel Agger 18 1 2 5 26 ....................................Still here
Andrea Dossena 16 2 1 7 26 ...............................Gone thank FUCK
Sami Hyypia 16 1 2 0 19 ....................................Sorely missed
David N'Gog 14 0 2 3 19 ......................................Still here
Nabil El Zhar 15 0 2 2 19 .....................................Useless cunts gone
Emiliano Insúa 10 1 2 0 13 ..................................Ditto and replaced with Konchesky VAST IMPROVEMENT
Damien Plessis 1 0 2 2 5 ....................................See above and above
Diego Cavalieri 0 1 2 1 4 ......................................gone not missed
Jermaine Pennant 3 0 1 0 4 .................................Ditto useless cunt Replaced with Maxi IMPROVEMENT?
Stephen Darby 0 0 1 1 2 .....................................Still here
Jay Spearing 0 0 0 2 2 ........................................Still here
Philipp Degen 0 0 2 0 2........................................gone not missed
Martin Kelly 0 0 0 1 1 ........................................Still here
Appearances for the 2010-2011 season 3rd from bottom at the mo
Player PL LC EL Total
Jamie Carragher 7 0 4 11
Jose Reina 7 0 4 11
David N'Gog 5 1 5 11
Lucas Leiva 4 1 6 11
Martin Skrtel 7 0 4 11
Glen Johnson 7 0 3 10
Milan Jovanovi? 6 1 3 10
Maxi Rodriguez 5 0 4 9
Joe Cole 4 0 5 9
Daniel Agger 6 1 2 9
Fernando Torres 7 0 2 9
Steven Gerrard 7 0 1 8
Christian Poulsen 5 0 3 8
Martin Kelly 0 1 6 7
Dirk Kuyt 5 0 2 7
Sotirios Kyrgiakos 1 1 4 6
Ryan Babel 2 1 3 6
Raul Meireles 4 0 2 6
Dani Pacheco 1 1 3 5
Jay Spearing 0 1 3 4
Paul Konchesky 3 0 1 4
Nathan Eccleston 0 1 2 3
Diego Cavalieri 0 0 2 2
Alberto Aquilani 0 0 2 2
Fábio Aurélio 0 0 2 2
Stephen Darby 0 0 1 1
Javier Mascherano 1 0 0 1
Jonjo Shelvey 0 1 0 1
Danny Wilson 0 1 0 1
Thomas Ince 0 1 0 1
David Amoo 0 0 1 1
Brad Jones 0 1 0 1
Lauri Dalla Valle 0 0 1 1
[quote author=crump link=topic=42126.msg1187682#msg1187682 date=1286139840]
Rafa was brilliant for the club for a long time, but this is where he has left us. Not the yanks. They didn't buy or nurture 11 shitboxes who can't stumble over the line against Northampton or Utrecht or Blackpool. This is his legacy.
[/quote]Crump i think you and i are singing from the same songsheet here. And if the tubby cunt thinks he can fucking walk away with his 5m quid and occassionally throw out some fucking 'I love the club and its such a shame' fan appeasing soundbites and expect me to forget how complicit he is in our fucking demise well he can kiss my hairy arse piece.
Fucking useless megomaniac cunt.
Rafa was brilliant for the club for a long time, but this is where he has left us. Not the yanks. They didn't buy or nurture 11 shitboxes who can't stumble over the line against Northampton or Utrecht or Blackpool. This is his legacy.
[/quote]Crump i think you and i are singing from the same songsheet here. And if the tubby cunt thinks he can fucking walk away with his 5m quid and occassionally throw out some fucking 'I love the club and its such a shame' fan appeasing soundbites and expect me to forget how complicit he is in our fucking demise well he can kiss my hairy arse piece.
Fucking useless megomaniac cunt.
[quote author=crump link=topic=42126.msg1187682#msg1187682 date=1286139840]
Rafa was brilliant for the club for a long time, but this is where he has left us. Not the yanks. They didn't buy or nurture 11 shitboxes who can't stumble over the line against Northampton or Utrecht or Blackpool. This is his legacy.
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that's not entirely fair though is it? was the squad really that different in july from a year earlier, when we'd just had our best league season in 2 decades?
johnson for arbeloa.
the greek for hyypia.
aquilani for alonso.
maxi for voronin
ngog, kelly, pacheco, shelvey - all that bit closer to potential
sure, it's not an imporvement, but it doesn't nearly explain ths fucking mess. all the other problems people have laid at rafa's door should have been sorted by him going, surely? surely?
Rafa was brilliant for the club for a long time, but this is where he has left us. Not the yanks. They didn't buy or nurture 11 shitboxes who can't stumble over the line against Northampton or Utrecht or Blackpool. This is his legacy.
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that's not entirely fair though is it? was the squad really that different in july from a year earlier, when we'd just had our best league season in 2 decades?
johnson for arbeloa.
the greek for hyypia.
aquilani for alonso.
maxi for voronin
ngog, kelly, pacheco, shelvey - all that bit closer to potential
sure, it's not an imporvement, but it doesn't nearly explain ths fucking mess. all the other problems people have laid at rafa's door should have been sorted by him going, surely? surely?
[quote author=crump link=topic=42126.msg1187682#msg1187682 date=1286139840]
Rafa was brilliant for the club for a long time, but this is where he has left us. Not the yanks. They didn't buy or nurture 11 shitboxes who can't stumble over the line against Northampton or Utrecht or Blackpool. This is his legacy.
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I thought it was time for Rafa to move on myself - but I never saw the sense in it (especially replacing him with Hodgson) unless we had new owners. Is it enough for me to want Rafas head on a spear? No. Do I think Hodgson is doing worse with those players left behind ? Yes. Has Hodgson bought some of the worst players ever in Knochesly and Poulsen ? Possibly yes, but still a long way to rival Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou. It's Benitez legacy, yes. Just as the team he took over was Houlliers. Thing is, we saw some improvement when Benitez took over Houlliers side - I'm seeing fuck all from Hodgson other than clueless bollocks. Merieles right midfield ? What the fuck ?????? And when things are going tits up - like Benitex - he's incapable of making a change. Much as, like Benitez, he appears incapable of giving youth a chance when all the seasoned professionals around him are performing like Sunday leaguers. Like I say, I'm no fan of Bentiez but I'll give him credit for the good things he did. I've see not one good thing from Hodgson as yet - nothing - all I see is a manager out of his depth whose trying to cover his arse with defeatist comments about "expectations being too high". He's full of shite excuses that are pathetic, embarrassing and simply do not wash with most Liverpool fans. Expectations too high my arse. Fuck off Roy - my expectations aren't very high at the moment but they do at least stretch high enough to believe that we should be beating fucking Blackpool at home and quite comfortably at that. You failed quite completely at that today and embarrassingly so.
Rafa was brilliant for the club for a long time, but this is where he has left us. Not the yanks. They didn't buy or nurture 11 shitboxes who can't stumble over the line against Northampton or Utrecht or Blackpool. This is his legacy.
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I thought it was time for Rafa to move on myself - but I never saw the sense in it (especially replacing him with Hodgson) unless we had new owners. Is it enough for me to want Rafas head on a spear? No. Do I think Hodgson is doing worse with those players left behind ? Yes. Has Hodgson bought some of the worst players ever in Knochesly and Poulsen ? Possibly yes, but still a long way to rival Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou. It's Benitez legacy, yes. Just as the team he took over was Houlliers. Thing is, we saw some improvement when Benitez took over Houlliers side - I'm seeing fuck all from Hodgson other than clueless bollocks. Merieles right midfield ? What the fuck ?????? And when things are going tits up - like Benitex - he's incapable of making a change. Much as, like Benitez, he appears incapable of giving youth a chance when all the seasoned professionals around him are performing like Sunday leaguers. Like I say, I'm no fan of Bentiez but I'll give him credit for the good things he did. I've see not one good thing from Hodgson as yet - nothing - all I see is a manager out of his depth whose trying to cover his arse with defeatist comments about "expectations being too high". He's full of shite excuses that are pathetic, embarrassing and simply do not wash with most Liverpool fans. Expectations too high my arse. Fuck off Roy - my expectations aren't very high at the moment but they do at least stretch high enough to believe that we should be beating fucking Blackpool at home and quite comfortably at that. You failed quite completely at that today and embarrassingly so.
this squad should be performing WELL above the current level. We all know that.
Rafa made plenty of purchasing errors, but the team is a solid one and as Crump says, not that different from the one who came second two years ago.
Roy is to blame, and a manager who starts this way, will only find it harder and harder to win games.
Why wait? only a lunatic would imagine it'll turn around. It's a matter of how far into a hole we're going to dig.
Rafa made plenty of purchasing errors, but the team is a solid one and as Crump says, not that different from the one who came second two years ago.
Roy is to blame, and a manager who starts this way, will only find it harder and harder to win games.
Why wait? only a lunatic would imagine it'll turn around. It's a matter of how far into a hole we're going to dig.
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