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Needs to be sold in the summer and not play another game for us this season. Utter shambles since he came on!
 
He was very crap. But it's his first game back.
What I want to know is why we looked like a Rodgers team every single time Southampton countered. Why oh why would we only have 3 players back there when we're not chasing a game? Are the cunts that thick?
Pathetic by the team.
 
Average CB, as has every other CB who's been with us has been since we had the privilege of having Hyypia & Carra
 
I'd rather keep Lovren and Sakho in all honesty. Skrtel is the CB I'd sell.
Yes, he's coming back from injury but that grab by the shirt and contributing to the defence looking so unorganized. He cant hold the line to save his life.
 
We were all over the place before his introduction as well. I'm not his biggest fan but there was plenty of players out there who didn't perform.
 
We were all over the place before his introduction as well. I'm not his biggest fan but there was plenty of players out there who didn't perform.

Don't think they had one good chance though ... That being said, we weren't facing Mane and Wanyama (who I think got away with a lot of fouls, which set the tone of the game)
 
In April, we'll be claiming how he should be starting beside Matip next season, and how Lovren and Sakho should be sold. Lovren will probably be given that honour in May ahead of the other two. Or maybe Toure will suddenly be resurrected as the best CB at the club again.

When all's done and dusted, every CB we have would've been touted as the best of the rest and slammed as the worst of the lot in the same season. They're all not good enough to be starting regularly for us next season. These two or three seasons have shown that but yet people still get excited after a few good games from any one of them and are ready to give them another chance.
 
We were all over the place before his introduction as well. I'm not his biggest fan but there was plenty of players out there who didn't perform.
First half we controlled the game and dominated, 2nd half our defence had more holes in it than a fucking golf course.. reason = Skrtel
 
Pump the brakes there buddy. Awful performance but he has been our best centreback for years and has been out for weeks.

He has been our worst central defender for years. Headless chicken and very weak. Sell in the summer.
 
Martin has been at times outstanding and often very good for us and doesn't deserve the instant hate he is getting after today's very poor performance which comes after being out for four months.
There is definitely a case to be made for him to be moved on.
To be fair there is probably a case to be made to move on all of our centre halves.
Flanno didn't do either of the centre halves any favours today either
 
You cant judge him on that one performance, he deserves better than that. But holy fuck that was epic, weve witnessed some outrageously poor defending over the years but that 45 minutes from Skrtel was up there with the best of them, I cant think of anything he actually did right.
 
Martin has been at times outstanding and often very good for us and doesn't deserve the instant hate he is getting after today's very poor performance which comes after being out for four months.
There is definitely a case to be made for him to be moved on.
To be fair there is probably a case to be made to move on all of our centre halves.
Flanno didn't do either of the centre halves any favours today either

I dont really get the Flanno love in, hes not a good player. His touch is heavy, he doesnt read the game well, his distribution is poor and hes frequently in the wrong position. Hes got 100% commitment but thats really it
 
The problem with Skrtel is not so much how he plays as how he makes the whole defense play. I feel like we back off and play very deep when he's on. Everything becomes last ditch and we get shit like the 2nd half today.

I like him fine and would love him to change but I think it's pretty clear that he needs to be replaced.
 
He shouldn't have been playing. Why did he come on in the middle of a game?

This wasn't a dead rubber match for players to get a bit of match fitness.
 
The problem with Skrtel is not so much how he plays as how he makes the whole defense play. I feel like we back off and play very deep when he's on. Everything becomes last ditch and we get shit like the 2nd half today.

I like him fine and would love him to change but I think it's pretty clear that he needs to be replaced.

This. He's always dropping off which is putting us under pressure. Our defence looked even more unorganized in the 2nd half. We weren't all good defensivley in the first half but they didnt have one shot on goal. Skrtel needs to be replaced.
 
We were all over the place before his introduction as well. I'm not his biggest fan but there was plenty of players out there who didn't perform.
3 goals in 8 matches whilst he has been out (not sure how long he's been out for in total) and 3 (should have been 4) in 45 mins since his return. It's not all on him but we were going to win that before he came on, they simply hadn't looked like scoring in the first half (bar the penalty shout).
 
The problem with Skrtel is not so much how he plays as how he makes the whole defense play. I feel like we back off and play very deep when he's on. Everything becomes last ditch and we get shit like the 2nd half today.

I like him fine and would love him to change but I think it's pretty clear that he needs to be replaced.

Nail on the head. He isn't a leader and can't organise the defense at all but he think he is an excellent leader so he do it all his own way and the rest of the defense must follow his orders because he don't give a shit about what they say.

We have seen him for many years not be even close to holding the line. Instead he is suddenly three, four yards on the wrong side. He is also very weak. Shirt pulling because he don't have the strenght to do it the right way is just one example.
 
Yep it was fucking idiotic. Klopp has to take the blame for this one.

Did he tell him to defend like a 8 year old girl? Maybe we should have brought Kolo on but I doubt anyone on that bench thought Skrtel would be THAT shite.
 
Martin has been at times outstanding and often very good for us and doesn't deserve the instant hate he is getting after today's very poor performance which comes after being out for four months.
There is definitely a case to be made for him to be moved on.
To be fair there is probably a case to be made to move on all of our centre halves.
Flanno didn't do either of the centre halves any favours today either
Seriously ? I'm struggling to remember anything Flanno did wrong .. other than lose possession that led to a goal ... but that was from a hospital pass from Can.
 
He'd be ok if he has someone with balls and better judgment telling him what to do all the time - as he actually had for a lot of his career with us.
 
Klopp on Subbing Lovren: "His yellow card- I thought the end of the first half he looked not completely free of the emotion of the stadium."
 
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