Skrtel charged

[gkmacca]

Cricket.

 

[nealmac]

And intent isn't necessary for violent conduct.

It's a level of unnecessary force or brutality used against someone when you're not challenging for the ball - or something along those lines.

This is the point I was making. Intent doesn't matter. Dangerous play is dangerous play.

This is why I was surprised Rooney got away with it. It may or may not have been intentional, but it was still violent conduct.

 

[gkmacca]

This is the point I was making. Intent doesn't matter. Dangerous play is dangerous play.

This is why I was surprised Rooney got away with it. It may or may not have been intentional, but it was still violent conduct.

Yes, it's a fair point. Of course, with the exception of the odd Schumacher, keepers don't get done for violent play, intentional or unintentional, when they come flying out at forwards with their knees up at the forward's chest or face and their elbows aimed at the skull, so I still feel the striker gets a bit of an unfair deal when it comes to refereeing such clashes.

 

[Red Astaire]

It looked like a deliberate lengthening of the stride to catch De Gea so I'm not sure we've a complaint to make about this one.

Yup. I think he was trying the nobble one of our 4th spot rival's best players. Morally it's not right but as someone once said* 'losers moan about morals, winners go home and fuck the prom queen'. I'm sure Utd in their pomp would have done something similar.

*paraphrasing 😉

 

[gkmacca]

I don't think he went through some fairly elaborate thought process in the seconds it took him to reach the keeper. It's surely more a case of 'ball-chase-try to get a touch-bang!' The problem with super slo-mo is that people sit back and create a veritable novella in the head of the player as they watch repeat after repeat.

 

[Red Astaire]

I don't think he went through some fairly elaborate thought process in the seconds it took him to reach the keeper. It's surely more a case of 'ball-chase-try to get a touch-bang!' The problem with super slo-mo is that people sit back and create a veritable novella in the head of the player as they watch repeat after repeat.

Can I just say that the novella I created in my head was succinct, vibrant and original. As split second novellas go - I stand by it 😉

 

[Spionkop69]

The referee saw that one though, and incompetant that he is, decided it was worth nothing more than a freekick.

Nor was it worthy of being covered on MOTD.

 

[gkmacca]

Once again, the mind goes back to the scene in Annie Hall when Alvy Singer watches his mate demonstrate a canned laughter machine and says, 'Have you got booing on that?' The refs simply cannot cope with ANY criticism. Everyone gets charged except them. Everyone gets penalised if they're not contrite except refs. Look at this: Mark Halsey, probably the last human ref, retired and became BT's ref analyst - quite a good innovation - until the refs pressured BT into dropping him because he actually pointed out, with some authority, when they fecked up. Now he seems to have been ostracised completely:


Mark Halsey, the controversial former elite referee who lost his role as a regular BT Sport pundit following Premier League upset, has had an invitation to speak to a regional referees association withdrawn following intervention from the highest level.

Halsey was due to address the Sheffield Referee Association on how he beat cancer to continue as a top referee. But an objection from an unnamed football figure led to the national Referees Association persuading their Sheffield branch to embarrassingly cancel the appearance of Halsey, who was giving his services free.

The email from Laura Ritchie, chairwoman of the RA, read: ‘A senior member of the footballing world has brought it to our attention that you have invited Mark Halsey to be a guest speaker. It is a worry that a figure who is being very negative about top-flight referees won’t send the right message to members. It may be perceived Sheffield RA agree with his viewpoint.’

However his planned appearance was cancelled after an unnamed football figure objected against the talk.

Sheffield management then informed members: ‘There was an agreement that we cancel Mark after pressure from the national RA and the wider football world.’ And the Sheffield response to the RA said: ‘Our irritation at having been placed in this position cannot be underestimated. Are we saying that as referees, we are above criticism?’

FA refs chief David Elleray is president of the RA but on Monday night HE denied any involvement. However, Halsey’s strong views on a decline in refereeing standards is certainly born out by the widespread furore around their performances this season.

 

[jexykrodic]

That rescinded invitation is as small minded as it comes.

 

[tombrown]

Can I just say that the novella I created in my head was succinct, vibrant and original. As split second novellas go - I stand by it 😉

And it involved f'king a prom queen, that has to be a positive.

 

[Judge Jules]

That rescinded invitation is as small minded as it comes.

On the part of those ultimately responsible, certainly. The Sheffield association deserve two cheers for at least making it privately clear how much they disagree with what they've been arm-twisted into doing.

As for that slimy twerp Elleray, he may not have given a direct instruction, but you can bet whoever's behind this knew they'd have his approval.

 

[EmreCan Idol]

Skrtel charged

Like Frankenstein himself.

 

[gene hughes]

Once again, the mind goes back to the scene in Annie Hall when Alvy Singer watches his mate demonstrate a canned laughter machine and says, 'Have you got booing on that?' The refs simply cannot cope with ANY criticism. Everyone gets charged except them. Everyone gets penalised if they're not contrite except refs. Look at this: Mark Halsey, probably the last human ref, retired and became BT's ref analyst - quite a good innovation - until the refs pressured BT into dropping him because he actually pointed out, with some authority, when they fecked up. Now he seems to have been ostracised completely:


Mark Halsey, the controversial former elite referee who lost his role as a regular BT Sport pundit following Premier League upset, has had an invitation to speak to a regional referees association withdrawn following intervention from the highest level.

Halsey was due to address the Sheffield Referee Association on how he beat cancer to continue as a top referee. But an objection from an unnamed football figure led to the national Referees Association persuading their Sheffield branch to embarrassingly cancel the appearance of Halsey, who was giving his services free.

The email from Laura Ritchie, chairwoman of the RA, read: ‘A senior member of the footballing world has brought it to our attention that you have invited Mark Halsey to be a guest speaker. It is a worry that a figure who is being very negative about top-flight referees won’t send the right message to members. It may be perceived Sheffield RA agree with his viewpoint.’

However his planned appearance was cancelled after an unnamed football figure objected against the talk.

Sheffield management then informed members: ‘There was an agreement that we cancel Mark after pressure from the national RA and the wider football world.’ And the Sheffield response to the RA said: ‘Our irritation at having been placed in this position cannot be underestimated. Are we saying that as referees, we are above criticism?’

FA refs chief David Elleray is president of the RA but on Monday night HE denied any involvement. However, Halsey’s strong views on a decline in refereeing standards is certainly born out by the widespread furore around their performances this season.

It's like the magic circle.