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Rodgers the overhyped manager

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I think i have got to the stage where i will support anymanager who kicks Lucas out of the squad.

He is a bitof a lads lad and is very popular with his fellow players, but we are not into this matey matey business...we must score points every game. Get someone better...if Rodgers is incapable of identifying one, then that is reason enough for him to be fired.


How long more do i have to put up with this inept performances from Lucas....i feel like i want to murder the cunt.
 
All his talk so far this season is about what a much more tough, savvy, adaptable team he's fashioned. And yesterday they didn't have a clue how to score against West Ham. West bloody Ham. He's a record breaker all right: teams who've never or rarely won at Anfield now swan away with comfortable wins. The man is turning this one-proud club into a laughing stock.
 
I've been on the fence with him, but last night was an absolute shocker. Terrible terrible tactical decisions throughout the game.

And now we've to face United without our best player.
 
Oliver Twist said:
Arn, Mr Moo and Peter Hague; the Axis of Dribble.

I am slowly coming round to their way of thinking but, by god, they don't half bleat on. Posting the same old stuff ad freaking infinitum..
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Probably not as much as Mark, LTW, lefty, mystic do in support of Rogers. Knew you and likely others will see Rogers for what he really is, fucking clueless. You're welcome.
 
leftpeg said:
There's nothing wrong with taking a view on a particular player or even the manager and then changing it over time. Better to do that than jump to a conclusion and dogmatically stick to it with post after post of unsubstantiated bullshit.
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Hardly jumped to a conclusion, this has stood for many months, couple of seasons in fact. As Pete says we can't help it if others fail to see our "bullshit" is premium bullshit when yours is value bullshit ;-)
 
There was one moment when Rodgers had his back to the action and was talking agitatedly to each one of his coaching staff, who were looking at him as if he was some kind of child. No one seemed to be saying anything back. Then he turned back to the action with an expression that suggested utter bewilderment. It's what was always likely to happen when he agreed to the revamp of his staff. Lijnders was brought in by Inglethorpe and doesn't really owe Rodgers any great loyalty yet. McCallister is clearly waiting to see how it all turns out rather than immediately becoming a Rodgers supporter. Whereas O'Driscoll...well, it may just be his saturnine personality, but he seems to look at Rodgers like he's dealing with a bit of a fool. And unless all or any of them step up and step in to show their worth, they should all be under threat, too, because I very much doubt they'll survive under another manager. A grown up one.
 
I know Macca can't see this because he has me on ignore but wasn't he attributing the credit for the first three games to the new coaching set up earlier in the week?
 
Oliver Twist said:
Don't know.
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Well here's the quote, judge for yourself:

"As I said earlier in the summer, the line of least resistance, as far as apportioning praise is concerned, is surely to speculate on the contribution of O'Driscoll and the rest of the new set-up, because that's the new factor in the equation. I'm not saying that to denigrate Rodgers, just re-stating the implications he was inviting by changing the people around him."

Which reads very much like, if we win Rodgers can't take the credit because he appointed a new staff and if we lose he has to take the flak because he appointed a new staff.
 
There just aren't any excuses left.

The personnel has changed but we are still suffering from the same problems. Average sides are creating more chances against us and controlling possession, pressing better and moving the ball faster.

That has to be down to the coaching and management. It's not about the transfer committee ; it's not because Gerrard has lost his legs ; it's not because of the coaching team behind him ; it's not through lack of finance for new players ; it's not cos of lack of time on the training pitch.

This is his team and we are a disorganised, disjointed, unbalanced mess with no shape or pattern of play.

Whatever happened to his principles? We were told that a Rodgers team would kill the opposition through passing, we would strangle them through pressing and we would play an attractive, short passing, fluent brand of football to dominate and bring back the traditional Liverpool Way.

Instead we are setting new records of ineptitude.

He's run out of fall guys, this is all down to Rodgers.
 
To be fair we did win the passing by about 500 to 250 (approximately, I didn't see the stats after about 70 minutes).

Certainly felt like death to football. Oh wait, that's not right is it...
 
He's sounding more and more like Hodgson in his excuses. And he's looking more like Hodgson in his coaching, too. He's reduced this club to celebrating a narrow win over Stoke because it wasn't a thrashing by Stoke. Humiliating stuff.
 
leftpeg said:
This is a really good point and I said as much to Young Peggy this morning. I would have left Gomez out today...he needs to be handled carefully and I wouldn't want him to think he's got it all so soon. And as well as he did last week I would have left Lucas out and maybe swapped the system round a little to bring Ings in from the start to partner Benteke. One of the problems Rodgers has had in the past is when he finds a system that works he sticks rigidly to it game in game out until we are found out.
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So in summary, you would of dropped the players who played poorly in yesterdays game and selected the player who played well in yesterdays game, for yesterdays game,

Nice wheels, Peggy.

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leftpeg said:
Well here's the quote, judge for yourself:

"As I said earlier in the summer, the line of least resistance, as far as apportioning praise is concerned, is surely to speculate on the contribution of O'Driscoll and the rest of the new set-up, because that's the new factor in the equation. I'm not saying that to denigrate Rodgers, just re-stating the implications he was inviting by changing the people around him."

Which reads very much like, if we win Rodgers can't take the credit because he appointed a new staff and if we lose he has to take the flak because he appointed a new staff.
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Minds are made up.
 
mr_moo said:
Probably not as much as Mark, LTW, lefty, mystic do in support of Rogers. Knew you and likely others will see Rogers for what he really is, fucking clueless. You're welcome.
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I don't know which is worse - you hoping Kenny loses so he can get fired, or you STILL not knowing how to spell Rodgers name after 3+ years in charge. Wait, here ; )

But anyways, carry on being a fucking great fan.
 
gkmacca said:
All his talk so far this season is about what a much more tough, savvy, adaptable team he's fashioned. And yesterday they didn't have a clue how to score against West Ham. West bloody Ham. He's a record breaker all right: teams who've never or rarely won at Anfield now swan away with comfortable wins. The man is turning this one-proud club into a laughing stock.
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Neither did Arsene @ the Emirates. So far, West Ham are great away and terrible at home.

Have a great day.
 
Rodgers has delivered our worst away defeat and second worst home defeat in the Premier League in the space of 5 matches.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
Neither did Arsene @ the Emirates. So far, West Ham are great away and terrible at home.

Have a great day.
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Don't try to be patronising. No need for it. Set an example, like you're supposed to. As for using Wenger as your benchmark, well, he's obviously not my choice, so that's not much help.
 
Oliver Twist said:
Minds are made up.
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I'm not on the 'Rodgers out' bus yet although I have bought a ticket. I felt he should be given more time at the end of last season and I wasn't going to wait for the first defeat of this season to change my mind. The elastic is stretched though.
 
gkmacca said:
Don't try to be patronising. No need for it. Set an example, like you're supposed to.
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I wasn't being patronizing - I was just highlighting how a team we're supposed to be fighting for the top 4 was horrible against them too at home.

That being said, I am not meant to be an example to anyone (bar the kids) - if I am, it's best they kick me out and quick! 🙂
 
leftpeg said:
I'm not on the 'Rodgers out' bus yet although I have bought a ticket. I felt he should be given more time at the end of last season and I wasn't going to wait for the first defeat of this season to change my mind. The elastic is stretched though.
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I'm with you Peggy ... although I think for me, I almost want him gone so we get this great manager and see how our fans react when he succeeds and fails. On that note, how are Chelsea fans taking their 1-1-2 start?
 
Yes I'd be more inclined to want him gone if I had any confidence a new man...any new man...would do any better.
 
leftpeg said:
I'm not on the 'Rodgers out' bus yet although I have bought a ticket. I felt he should be given more time at the end of last season and I wasn't going to wait for the first defeat of this season to change my mind. The elastic is stretched though.
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For me it's not the results that are the biggest issue. It's the performances

We've not put in a solid performance for frigging ages. Even when we win we look shit. I don't mind winning ugly, but playing that way every game and relying on referee errors or worldies is not the way we should be playing
 
leftpeg said:
Yes I'd be more inclined to want him gone if I had any confidence a new man...any new man...would do any better.
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Let Moo and Peter get their new man, and then we can point out how much of a joke they are (again) when things aren't going our way and they're willing us to get beat.

People have their agenda's, its not really a surprise who's jumped on this thread, Rodgers is walking on a tightrope now and some of the criticism is justified, but don't ask me to take it seriously from people who actively want us to get beat. The point earlier about celebrating beating Stoke is just about the most desperate, pathetically bitter post I've read on here, especially coming from a poster who's hatred of Rodgers has been transparent from the word go.

I almost want us to get Klopp now so we can witness (and ridicule) the predictable hypocrisy.
 
The thread title is a little odd. Over hyped manager? Christ, I don't think anyone over hypes Rodgers. In fact he barely has any fans at all. He has a few heads who support him as he's the current manager and they want the team to do well at all costs. That's about it though. I don't think anyone even *likes* him.

I would have swapped him out for Klopp in the summer if possible. It didn't happen so the wait continues. I don't think it's worth baying for Rodgers blood every game. All we'll do is turn on each other and subconscious derive joy from playing poorly. I'm going to try avoid going down that road.
 
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