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I agree. Sadly cant see him getting sacked though. Henry and FSG needs to show some balls.

Why, for the love of God, doesnt he set up the team to get the best out of the players he's got available.
Firmino is just waiting to be unleashed but is stuck out on the wing.
Feels like that with several players.

Get him out. If you cant motivate the players before a trip to OT, then its over.
 
Brendan Rodgers appeals for time to re-establish his style after Harry Redknapp blasts Liverpool as 'bang average'

Rodgers refused to hit back at Redknapp, instead insisting that his pure, passing game will return if his side is afforded patience

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Clock watching: Rodgers believes his side will soon be playing with a swagger again. Photo: AP

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By Chris Bascombe
10:30PM BST 11 Sep 2015

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Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has appealed for time to re-establish the distinctive playing style that typified the start of his reign as his new signings adapt.
Rodgers’ idealistic philosophy has been notable by its absence this season and he heads to Old Trafford on Saturday having heard Harry Redknapp brand his side “bang average” and “the worst Liverpool team in years”.
The Northern Irishman is adamant that the pure, passing game he promised on his appointment in 2012 – and which he delivered when competing for the title in his second season – will return.
“People will always form opinions and Harry is someone I have huge respect for,” Rodgers said. “But it’s a team that has changed and will progress over the course of the season.

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“I know this group of players will improve as the season moves on. We need to give this group a bit of time. That’s something ill afforded to you in modern football but I get great excitement when I see the players, and seeing the likes of Daniel [Sturridge] coming back.
“I think this team will show its worth over the course of the season, not just in these early games. In the season when we nearly won the league we didn’t really play that brand of football until November or December time.
“It’s clear how we want to work. I’m not one who chops and changes the philosophy – that’s something inherent in you. The idea and the philosophy is very clear on how we play. We want to be really creative – create opportunities to score goals while having a strong defensive organisation.
“I’ll always believe in that way. When you work that way with that vision, the consequences of that is teams that will gradually improve. What we are seeing at the moment is players coming in and adapting to it.”
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The sight of Sturridge back in training has raised spirits at Liverpool
It was prior to Liverpool’s trip to Old Trafford last season that Rodgers decided to reshape his team and reconnect with his preferred, possession-based game. After reverting to three centre-halves Liverpool found form, but there have been consistent reshuffles within games since the end of last season.
“It was probably the best defeat I’ve ever had,” said Rodgers on the last Old Trafford experience. “Of course you never want to lose a game and especially not to a rival like Manchester United. But I saw enough that day to know that we had got our identity back again. We created a lot of chances and should have scored goals but we ultimately lost the game because we didn’t defend well enough. From that moment we kicked on and had a very good spell.”
Despite three encouraging results at the start of the season, Liverpool have shown little resemblance to Rodgers’s most attractive sides and the demoralising defeat by West Ham underlined how quickly the wounds of last season can reopen.
“It’s very difficult taking a performance like that because you wonder where it comes from, particularly because we hadn’t showed signs of that in the opening three games,” Rodgers said. “You obviously can’t be positive after the game and for a day or two you don’t think the garden is rosy, it was a disappointing performance. But once you come away and analyse it and work you get the chance to review it you get solutions, and that’s what is important.

“You go away and look where you can be better and the areas where we disappointed and the key to moving on – which is what you have to do – is to try and find the solutions to that.
“I feel it’s going to be a league like that this year. Look at Chelsea’s recent results and you know any team can beat you. Look at the home teams – only nine wins in 40 games.”
Rodgers will be forced to make at least one change to his line-up with Philippe Coutinho suspended. Danny Ings is expected to make his first start.
“I have no qualms about putting him in. He scored there last season, and he’s been a real bright spark since he came,” Rodgers said.

“He’s a threat to the goal, he works hard presses well and has that quality in front of goal.”
Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana and Sturridge are not in the travelling squad for Old Trafford. Sturridge is making progress after his recovery from hip surgery, however.
“Daniel looked very very sharp in training yesterday and probably the best he has looked fitness wise for 18 months,” Rodgers said.
“There is no timeline on when he will be fit to participate. From experience I don’t want to put any timeline on him coming back, he has worked very hard in America and our medical team has done a brilliant job.”
 
I guess his one chance now is to get Sturridge back in the team and show it can progress. That will surely be the last hope for him. But it concerns me hugely that we actually seem ill-equipped to return to that 'pure passing game'. You need to know how to pass to do that, don't you? For all the 'technical this, technical that' stuff he drones on about, this bunch pass incredibly badly. You can have defensive organisation problems, and attacking problems, etc, okay, you can argue they can be overcome, but passing? How the hell can they pass so badly? In a team supposedly set up to pass?? How is it that a team like Palace can look so vastly better at moving the ball around quickly and accurately than us? It used to be that we'd get to the opposition penalty area and the doubts would set in about how we'd do. Now the doubts set in as soon as Ming gives the ball to his defenders. Just trying to get out of our own half with the ball feels like a tough task. It's alarming that we've got, allegedly, two of the best coaches in the country working with these players every day and they look that bad on the pitch.
 
I don't believe there any designs to return a passing game and if there are, I understand our transfer strategy even less.

Who are the passers in our team? Allen maybe? That's it. The rest of them are runners. Not without talent but where is the foundation to bring it all together?
 
Who are the passers in our team? Allen maybe? That's it. The rest of them are runners.

Obviously there's also Coutinho. If Firminho ever settles, he'd be another. Lallana when he finally releases the ball. But they'd all have to come incredibly deep to get any possession in the first place.
 
He should have been sacked after losing 6-1 to Stoke, but he wasn't, and we gave him another 70 odd million and an entire new coaching staff.

You reap what you sow I guess.

I wasn't even that angry watching that last night, that's how low we've sunk. Just sad really.

I don't hate Rodgers, I don't think he's a "cunt", or deserving of the vitriol aimed at him. He's quite clearly out of his depth, and a replacement needs to be found quickly. It's not that he doesn't care, or can't in some way actually coach - he can, it just seems that this job's too big for him.
 
He should have been sacked after losing 6-1 to Stoke, but he wasn't, and we gave him another 70 odd million and an entire new coaching staff.



You reap what you sow I guess.



I wasn't even that angry watching that last night, that's how low we've sunk. Just sad really.



I don't hate Rodgers, I don't think he's a "cunt", or deserving of the vitriol aimed at him. He's quite clearly out of his depth, and a replacement needs to be found quickly. It's not that he doesn't care, or can't in some way actually coach - he can, it just seems that this job's too big for him.

I think that's fair enough Ryan. That's pretty much how I felt yesterday.
 
Obviously there's also Coutinho. If Firminho ever settles, he'd be another. Lallana when he finally releases the ball. But they'd all have to come incredibly deep to get any possession in the first place.


Lallana can be good in the final third but generally he prefers to run with the ball from deep. The same goes for Firmino really. Coutinho started passing a lot more when he had runners but now he pretty much prefers to run / shoot than pass.

We don't seem to clever enough as a team right now nor do we have enough (any?) players who know how to control a game.
 
Oh dear Mark's flip flopped again. A bit hysterical?

Just out of curiosity, what do you hope to achieve with the snide remarks and looking for an argument with Mark?
Unless you're in the age group 13-17 and he's your dad, I'm struggeling to see the point.

If you're unhappy with your weekly allowance or pissed off he said no to that sleep over there are better ways of getting your points across. Just sayin..
 
Rodgers is now the favorite ahead of Dick Advacat to get the sack @ 2-1

That how low we have now sunk..

He continues to acheive the impossible

Mourinho is 3rd favorite at 4-1
 
Just out of curiosity, what do you hope to achieve with the snide remarks and looking for an argument with Mark?
Unless you're in the age group 13-17 and he's your dad, I'm struggeling to see the point.

If you're unhappy with your weekly allowance or pissed off he said no to that sleep over there are better ways of getting your points across. Just sayin..


Shut up.
 
Rodgers is now the favorite ahead of Dick Advacat to get the sack @ 2-1

That how low we have now sunk..

He continues to acheive the impossible

Mourinho is 3rd favorite at 4-1

If that tells you anything, it's how fickle people are. Rodgers has a lot of criticism to answer, but Mourinho won the title 5 games ago and is now 3rd favourite for the sack. No surprise it appeals to you though.
 
If that tells you anything, it's how fickle people are. Rodgers has a lot of criticism to answer, but Mourinho won the title 5 games ago and is now 3rd favourite for the sack. No surprise it appeals to you though.
Mourinho Should be given some grace period after last season, however he seems to be alienating everyone and the style of play has changed this season.

There's more to their situation than meets the eye

But Rodgers has every right to be top of the sacked odds list
 
If that tells you anything, it's how fickle people are. Rodgers has a lot of criticism to answer, but Mourinho won the title 5 games ago and is now 3rd favourite for the sack. No surprise it appeals to you though.

Rodgers should have been favourite first day of the season.
 
Its fine mate. I know the score now because its been pointed out by Del etc. Its not the fault of posters deliberately goading, its my fault for responding. Anyone reading this page can see there's been absolutely no attempt by Moo, Peter or the harbinger of the goading rule to level with anyone rationally Let them get on with it, I couldn't a fuck. Anyone with half a brain can see they're painfully inept trolls.
 
He should have been sacked after losing 6-1 to Stoke, but he wasn't, and we gave him another 70 odd million and an entire new coaching staff.

I don't hate Rodgers, I don't think he's a "cunt", or deserving of the vitriol aimed at him. He's quite clearly out of his depth, and a replacement needs to be found quickly. It's not that he doesn't care, or can't in some way actually coach - he can, it just seems that this job's too big for him.

Yes I suppose I'm mostly on board with that.
But the fact that he is guaranteed multiple millions of pounds to do what he does - regardless of the outcome - makes it tougher to stomach for most. Yes, I get it. It's the going rate for that type of job, but basically he makes what all of us on here make combined to do what most on here would do for free. And whilst I know that I am far, far away from being any sort of football genius, I think that I (or any one else on here bar dreamy for that matter) could target more appropriate players, set up the team better, and inspire more fighting spirit than BR at the current time.
It's fucking infuriating.
 
Its fine mate. I know the score now because its been pointed out by Del etc. Its not the fault of posters deliberately goading, its my fault for responding. Anyone reading this page can see there's been absolutely no attempt by Moo, Peter or the harbinger of the goading rule to level with anyone rationally Let them get on with it, I couldn't a fuck. Anyone with half a brain can see they're painfully inept trolls.

. . . but . . .but . . . you just responded . . .
Look, Mark, you're a good dude for the positive passion that you espouse for the club. But that fact that you do always respond makes you the opposite equivalent of moo, hague and ninja. (And I agree with both of your positions if that seems possible.)
 
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