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Rodgers the Dodger

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The owners will be thinking 'what's all the fuss about were 2 points off a champions league spot'
 
His position is untenable in my opinion.

It's been only 5 games since the 6-1 at Stoke, and we've been handed a 3-0 at home by West Ham and a 3-1 by our arch rivals. Who look utterly shit themselves.

Then there's the utter lack of coherence in gameplan.

5 games, 4 different formations.

4-2-3-1 against Stoke and Bournemouth.

4-3-3 against Arsenal and West Ham 1st half.

3-4-3 against West Ham 2nd half.

4-5-1 against United.

He doesn't know what his best team is. He doesn't know what his best formation is. He's completely abandoned his pressing philosophy, which showed so much promise.

He's just trying to cling on, and get results in the short-term. This isn't a man who is going to lead us anywhere.

Then there's the squad - 36 million worth of talent out on loan. Our 29 million player being played out of position. New players constantly being played out of position. Has he ever watched them play before - Sahin, Balotelli, Markovic, Firmino - not one of them.

I'm done.
 
If he tries that 'it hinged on a few incidents' shit, and tries to say we had good moments, he'll have truly gone mad like losing managers do after a while. Only complete honesty, contrition and a desire to fight can earn him any more time. He's been shattered for over a year now.
 
He looked a completely beaten man today, even at half time.

There's quite a lot of talent in this squad - I really don't think we should have a manager with such defeatism around them.

It's sad - he isn't a talentless manager.

He'd have been far better off if he'd actually accepted a DoF - backed himself with establishing the 4-3-3 pressing philosophy, and got on with just coaching players.

He'll probably make a decent PL manager in the long term somewhere else.
 
Today was the right team for me actually.

Problem was he played ings on the wing.

Why?

A player with pace and an eye for goal, give him the job of protecting gomez

Fucking abysmal. Benteke remained isolated as firmino looked Shite.

Why can't he grasp that benteke needs someone to play with?

When I saw the lineup I felt sure it was going to be the one most of us wanted, two up front with Firmino in behind. Instead what did we get ? Ings spending most of his time running between midfield/defence and attack and Firmino pushed wide right .... with a 20m gap to Benteke in the centre and no-one to pick up on his knock-downs or run in behind. It was a joke. A coward's joke. We had the players to have done some damage today if played in their correct positions.
 
Doubt it. Ancelotti's no Mourinho and I can't see him being willing to go back there. Which is good, because he'd defo be my no.1 pick for the LFC job.
I'd have him here but my heart is saying klopp maybe because he's younger and hungrier.
 
When I saw the lineup I felt sure it was going to be the one most of us wanted, two up front with Firmino in behind. Instead what did we get ? Ings spending most of his time running between midfield/defence and attack and Firmino pushed wide right .... with a 20m gap to Benteke in the centre and no-one to pick up on his knock-downs or run in behind. It was a joke. A coward's joke. We had the players to have done some damage today if played in their correct positions.
It seems typical of Rodgers and his ego, that he probably thought he was being clever by not going 2 up top with that line up
 
Shadey: have to disagree. For me the owners' insistence on a younger manager is actually the root of the problem. The Liverpool job just isn't one for a younger guy IMO.
 
Pathetic, Gutless, Clueless, Disgrace sums up Rodgers and the performance!

Gomez isn't a left back.
Milner, Lucas and Can offers nothing in the way of controlling a game.
Playing Ings and Firmino out of position, virtually as second wing backs.
Mignolet back to his old self - deer stuck in headlights.
Lovren ahead of Sakho?
4-3-3 and not changing to try get some midfield dominance after we go 1-0 down.
Shit substitutions which weren't changing the game. Instead of going attacking he stayed with the exact same setup.
Manager without any ideas or plan B.

It's time for Jurgen Klopp
 
If he tries that 'it hinged on a few incidents' shit, and tries to say we had good moments, he'll have truly gone mad like losing managers do after a while. Only complete honesty, contrition and a desire to fight can earn him any more time. He's been shattered for over a year now.

So i hope he moves on ...
Unlike some of the proper cunts posting here (not you!), he's just a guy who's failed and needs to move on... I think he'll be fine somewhere else.

Hope the replacement is ready for the sheer size of this job ...
 
Let's be honest, Harry Redknapp was spot on, and we don't like to admit it. Even the in shambles of Hodgson the squad still had Gerrard, Torres, Carra, Agger, Reina. This is the worst LFC team in years.
 
Shadey: have to disagree. For me the owners' insistence on a younger manager is actually the root of the problem. The Liverpool job just isn't one for a younger guy IMO.
Maybe my heart is wrong but would love ancelotti on board.
 
Shadey: have to disagree. For me the owners' insistence on a younger manager is actually the root of the problem. The Liverpool job just isn't one for a younger guy IMO.

Well, you could argue that Klopp really isn't a young manager. He's 48 - 4 years older than Rafa was when he came here. Managed in the German flight for about 9 years. Enough experience in Europe as well.

Ancelotti is a top manager no doubt, but I wonder if he'd be able to replicate success at a club where he won't have a squad comprising of the very top players - he's had that at Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Madrid.

Klopp's experience is different - results and trophies at a club with limited financial resources. I really think that's the kind of experience we need.
 
It really does feel like Klopp is the real Benitez successor. It's just taken a few years to get to reach this point.
 
Mish: some good points there certainly, but he'd also be coming off his worst season for a decade. On balance I think I'd still prefer Ancelotti because of his greater experience and because I feel we need a steady hand on the tiller rather than the white-knuckle ride which I can see Klopp giving us.
 
Amazing folk's opinions changing and see the real Brendan. Knew it wouldn't be long. Don't take glee from it, just want the owners to have to balls to get rid now.
 
Thing is though if we get turned down by the likes of Klopp and Ancelotti do we then start looking at Gary Monk and Eddie Howe?
 
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