Rage's managerial teamtalk for Sunday

[gkmacca]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954781#msg954781 date=1254339767]
i feel honoured. apologies for the late response but some of us work for a living.Ha ha, they pay these days for getting a ball in a cup outside of community centres these days?

lucas clearly should not play but more than likely willBing bong: message for Mr Twat: you were asked for YOUR suggestions, not someone else's.

even rafa will have realised that playing aurelio in midfield next to lucas is madnessBing Bong: likewise.

every time we have played anyone half decent our weakness in centre midfield has led to gerrard and torres being isolated. gerrard then comes looking for the ball leaving torres even more isolated. Bing Bong Still no ideas of your own...

reina, and johnson clearly start with johnson being told to get forward in a more reserved manner Bing Bong Still no ideas of your own...


drop skertel and play agger next to carra. MIND BLOWING!!!!!!!!!

infact i'm not keen on rafa's veiled criticism of alonso by talking about how aquaman plays further up the pitch when without alonso playing as deep as he did most of our attacks would never have been built last season. Irrelevant. This isn't Late Night Review, big nose. It's your test of managerial prowess.

i would play aurelio ahead of insua. aurelio is the better left back. Startling!!

masch should play alongside gerrard. Yikes. This bloke has balls of steel!.

riera on the left, does it get any more daring??yossi in the hole where he is far more effective incredible! and dirk on the right. DIRK ON THE RIGHT!! OH RAFA! IF ONLY YOU'D LISTEN!!!none of this dirk second striker bollocks or yossi on the left where he is shit.

torres on fire upfront.TORRES UP FRONT!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!

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So that's it???

 

[gkmacca]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954878#msg954878 date=1254345606]
i'm not a believer in the control freak approach of rafa. play our best players in their best positions, keep things tight and try to take the game to them whenever possible. we know how to play against chelsea the question is whether we play the right players who have the capability to play against them. tactics are irrelevant if you play shite players or players out of position.

we haven't lost the games we have because of the absence of a teamtalk.

why won't rafa play gerrard in central midfield when yossi is a very capable player behind torres? why won't that waste of space lucas get dropped? agger has successfully come through a reserve game, its not unusual to play a player after this process.

solution is simple but as in ever rafa delusion fashion some of u want to over complicate things.

it must be really painful for some of you red tinted deluded fools to accept that rafa is making serious mistakes so far this season.

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[move][size=40pt]MESSAGE FROM ASSHOLE: BRAIN NEEDED BACK IN HEAD.[/size][/move]

 

[gkmacca]

[quote author=Rory Fitzgerald link=topic=36184.msg954809#msg954809 date=1254341221]
Rage, I dont know what you have said before but it must not have been good if you have been challenged on this issue.

I'll make this observation, your post is largely a long winded version of naming the team.

I think you were asked by macca to tell us how we should play to beat Chelsea.

I look forward to your next post.
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Exactly so, Rory.

 

[rage]

you asked my opinion i gave it you. there is very little bar perhaps agger any of u disagree with.

as i've said repeatedly on here if you can't start by naming the right team you can take your tactics and teamtalk and shove it as the only difference it'll make is by how many goals we lose by.

macca you clearly have issue with me but then i suppose you would being a deluded twat who refuses to acknowledge that rafa got it wrong big time last night.

keep sucking on that cock, i hear lucas wants it back

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954937#msg954937 date=1254350547]
you asked my opinion i gave it you. there is very little bar perhaps agger any of u disagree with.

as i've said repeatedly on here if you can't start by naming the right team you can take your tactics and teamtalk and shove it as the only difference it'll make is by how many goals we lose by.

macca you clearly have issue with me but then i suppose you would being a deluded twat who refuses to acknowledge that rafa got it wrong big time last night.

keep sucking on that cock, i hear lucas wants it back
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[rage]

[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954942#msg954942 date=1254350889]
[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954937#msg954937 date=1254350547]
you asked my opinion i gave it you. there is very little bar perhaps agger any of u disagree with.

as i've said repeatedly on here if you can't start by naming the right team you can take your tactics and teamtalk and shove it as the only difference it'll make is by how many goals we lose by.

macca you clearly have issue with me but then i suppose you would being a deluded twat who refuses to acknowledge that rafa got it wrong big time last night.

keep sucking on that cock, i hear lucas wants it back
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i'm sure if lucas plays this weekend next to aurelio plenty of u will give a fuck.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yadda yadda yadda.

Will you be on here if we win?

 

[rage]

[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954963#msg954963 date=1254352080]
Yadda yadda yadda.

Will you be on here if we win?
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go and check my post history mr cheap shot. that's nearly of the level of you're not a real supporter.

i tend to post late for home games though as i'm usually actually at the game.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954972#msg954972 date=1254353157]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954963#msg954963 date=1254352080]
Yadda yadda yadda.

Will you be on here if we win?
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go and check my post history mr cheap shot. that's nearly of the level of you're not a real supporter.

i tend to post late for home games though as i'm usually actually at the game.
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that's nearly of the level of you're not a real supporter.

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954972#msg954972 date=1254353157]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954963#msg954963 date=1254352080]
Yadda yadda yadda.

Will you be on here if we win?
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go and check my post history mr cheap shot. that's nearly of the level of you're not a real supporter.

i tend to post late for home games though as i'm usually actually at the game.
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You must be a joy to sit next to.
"
"UGHHH another misplaced pass by lucas, I *must* let everyone in on the insight I've gained through my unique ability to read the game, they will find it most illuminating! After all, too many people have a blind, positive view on lucas, so it'll be incredibly refreshing for them to hear the honest truth."

 

[FoxForceFive]

20p?!

Is that how much phone boxes charge?? Robbing bastards. I'd have thought it'd have dropped to 5p as phonecalls are practically free from mobiles.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Fuckin' techno geek.

:🙂

 

[El Pistolero]

[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954942#msg954942 date=1254350889]
[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954937#msg954937 date=1254350547]
you asked my opinion i gave it you. there is very little bar perhaps agger any of u disagree with.

as i've said repeatedly on here if you can't start by naming the right team you can take your tactics and teamtalk and shove it as the only difference it'll make is by how many goals we lose by.

macca you clearly have issue with me but then i suppose you would being a deluded twat who refuses to acknowledge that rafa got it wrong big time last night.

keep sucking on that cock, i hear lucas wants it back
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Time to piss on your fire, its actually 40p.

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=36184.msg954993#msg954993 date=1254354303]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954942#msg954942 date=1254350889]
[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954937#msg954937 date=1254350547]
you asked my opinion i gave it you. there is very little bar perhaps agger any of u disagree with.

as i've said repeatedly on here if you can't start by naming the right team you can take your tactics and teamtalk and shove it as the only difference it'll make is by how many goals we lose by.

macca you clearly have issue with me but then i suppose you would being a deluded twat who refuses to acknowledge that rafa got it wrong big time last night.

keep sucking on that cock, i hear lucas wants it back
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Time to piss on your fire, its actually 40p.

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Time to piss on yours. At least I can do a simple function like quote properly you 'tard.

 

[El Pistolero]

[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954994#msg954994 date=1254354384]
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=36184.msg954993#msg954993 date=1254354303]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36184.msg954942#msg954942 date=1254350889]
[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954937#msg954937 date=1254350547]
you asked my opinion i gave it you. there is very little bar perhaps agger any of u disagree with.

as i've said repeatedly on here if you can't start by naming the right team you can take your tactics and teamtalk and shove it as the only difference it'll make is by how many goals we lose by.

macca you clearly have issue with me but then i suppose you would being a deluded twat who refuses to acknowledge that rafa got it wrong big time last night.

keep sucking on that cock, i hear lucas wants it back
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Time to piss on your fire, its actually 40p.

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Time to piss on yours. At least I can do a simple function like quote properly you 'tard.
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Ha

 

[cobrastatus]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954878#msg954878 date=1254345606]
tactics are irrelevant if you play shite players or players out of position.

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Wow that's stupid.

Time to put rage on ignore.

 

[Oncy]

Rage is the least balanced Liverpool fan in history.
He's a dick.

 

[jexykrodic]

[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36184.msg954700#msg954700 date=1254330236]
Here you are, matey: your chance, before the fact, to tell the idiot Rafa what he should do against Chelsea. Off you go - spell it out, and we'll then be able to judge you.
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Rafa should hire John Sitton.

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/_ioE0v_XyNQ&feature=related[/flash]

The "Bring your fackin' dinner" line should fire the boys up.

 

[Delinquent]

I think rage is on a wind-up most of the time.

 

[reuque]

VAULTO!

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=rage link=topic=36184.msg954781#msg954781 date=1254339767]
i feel honoured. apologies for the late response but some of us work for a living.

lucas clearly should not play but more than likely will

even rafa will have realised that playing aurelio in midfield next to lucas is madness

every time we have played anyone half decent our weakness in centre midfield has led to gerrard and torres being isolated. gerrard then comes looking for the ball leaving torres even more isolated.

reina, and johnson clearly start with johnson being told to get forward in a more reserved manner

drop skertel and play agger next to carra (we all know carra won't be dropped but just so we all know i'd give him a slap and tell him to start to trust the player next to him) i would prefer agger because he can bring the ball out. this is more important than last season where the norm was to pass the ball two yards to alonso.

infact i'm not keen on rafa's veiled criticism of alonso by talking about how aquaman plays further up the pitch when without alonso playing as deep as he did most of our attacks would never have been built last season.

i would play aurelio ahead of insua. aurelio is the better left back.

masch should play alongside gerrard. the only time lucas has looked half decent this season is when gerrard has carried him playing next to him in centre midfield. masch should start and gerrard should take the place of that inept fake brazilian.

riera on the left, yossi in the hole where he is far more effective and dirk on the right. none of this dirk second striker bollocks or yossi on the left where he is shit.

torres on fire upfront.

oh and between now and then sort our fucking set piece defending out and get yossi and aurelio on corners, gerrard can practice heading the ball in the box or picking up loose balls and bashing them into the top corner


now what of that does anyone really disagree with?

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Your team is perfect but how would you approach the game?
Attack minded? Counter attack?

Blow them away in the 1st 20 mins like Juve in the CL or keep it tight and hopw for a break. Encourage our full backs to overlap or to sit behind the ball at all times.

Give Masher free licence to roam or to sit in front of the back four?

How much freedom for Gerrard?

How do we stop Drogba? Essien? Lampard?

How picks up who? How do you get the best out of players?

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955081#msg955081 date=1254381285]
Your team is perfect but how would you approach the game?
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How is playing Agger, who doesn't have full match fitness and hasn't played a first team game in ages, a "perfect" decision?

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36184.msg955086#msg955086 date=1254381545]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955081#msg955081 date=1254381285]
Your team is perfect but how would you approach the game?
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How is playing Agger, who doesn't have full match fitness and hasn't played a first team game in ages, a "perfect" decision?
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Football is all opinions.

And I think Drogba on current form would absolutely own Skittles or Carragher.

Agger after getting thought a footballing lesson by Drogba in his 1st game against him at Stamford bridge in the CL 1st leg came back and was man of the match in the 2nd game.

I think he could come in and do a job on Drogba.

Quite simple I think we are in big trouble with a pairing of Skittles and Carra unless you play Aurelio and relay on his pace to sweep behind the two.

I'm guessing you'd rather stick with what we have?

Don't forget Alonso came back in Europe away to Juve and had his best game in red after 3 months out. It can be done.

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955094#msg955094 date=1254382272]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36184.msg955086#msg955086 date=1254381545]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955081#msg955081 date=1254381285]
Your team is perfect but how would you approach the game?
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How is playing Agger, who doesn't have full match fitness and hasn't played a first team game in ages, a "perfect" decision?
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Football is all opinions.

And I think Drogba on current form would absolutely own Skittles or Carragher.

Agger after getting thought a footballing lesson by Drogba in his 1st game against him at Stamford bridge in the CL 1st leg came back and was man of the match in the 2nd game.

I think he could come in and do a job on Drogba.

Quite simple I think we are in big trouble with a pairing of Skittles and Carra unless you play Aurelio and relay on his pace to sweep behind the two.

I'm guessing you'd rather stick with what we have?

Don't forget Alonso came back in Europe away to Juve and had his best game in red after 3 months out. It can be done.
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First of all Drogba on his day can overwhelm any CB, he's a fucking handful. Pointing to a 50% success rate as a reason why Agger should be risked when he isn't fully match fit isn't exactly compelling evidence.

If it gets to the point where this match becomes an arduous investigation of our CBs we've already lost. The game will be won or lost in midfield.

 

[keniget]

Rely on the pace of Aurelio to mop up for Carra and Skrtel.

VAULT NOW!

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=36184.msg955097#msg955097 date=1254382876]
Rely on the pace of Aurelio to mop up for Carra and Skrtel.

VAULT NOW!
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Holy shit I missed that.

 

[Mamma Mia]

This thread simply shows that rage, like most football forum posters, severely underestimates what goes into managing a premier league team.

It isn't that much different from those respected football gurus who simply pick 11 players and then drag lines with arrows at the end to show the runs each player should make. Job done.

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36184.msg955096#msg955096 date=1254382549]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955094#msg955094 date=1254382272]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=36184.msg955086#msg955086 date=1254381545]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955081#msg955081 date=1254381285]
Your team is perfect but how would you approach the game?
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How is playing Agger, who doesn't have full match fitness and hasn't played a first team game in ages, a "perfect" decision?
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Football is all opinions.

And I think Drogba on current form would absolutely own Skittles or Carragher.

Agger after getting thought a footballing lesson by Drogba in his 1st game against him at Stamford bridge in the CL 1st leg came back and was man of the match in the 2nd game.

I think he could come in and do a job on Drogba.

Quite simple I think we are in big trouble with a pairing of Skittles and Carra unless you play Aurelio and relay on his pace to sweep behind the two.

I'm guessing you'd rather stick with what we have?

Don't forget Alonso came back in Europe away to Juve and had his best game in red after 3 months out. It can be done.
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First of all Drogba on his day can overwhelm any CB, he's a fucking handful. Pointing to a 50% success rate as a reason why Agger should be risked when he isn't fully match fit isn't exactly compelling evidence.

If it gets to the point where this match becomes an arduous investigation of our CBs we've already lost. The game will be won or lost in midfield.
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Really? I think it will be tight in midfield as always and it will be which strikeforce can make the most of the limited ball they get.

I can see alot of long balls to Drogba in the hope he can take it down turn or bring Anleka into play.

My point regarding Agger is on his day he can match Drogba, Skrtel has never proved he can yet. Maybe Sunday he will but I would risk Agger.

 

[spider-Neil]

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feel honoured. apologies for the late response but some of us work for a living.

oooooohhh!!!!

lucas clearly should not play but more than likely will

correct, he will play. whether or not he sHOULD lay is a matter of opinion.

even rafa will have realised that playing aurelio in midfield next to lucas is madness

you don't know that, he's done it twice in three games

every time we have played anyone half decent our weakness in centre midfield has led to gerrard and torres being isolated. gerrard then comes looking for the ball leaving torres even more isolated.

that's a symptom, what's the solution?

reina, and johnson clearly start with johnson being told to get forward in a more reserved manner

correct, although I'd be inclined to let johnson get at their fullbacks if he doesn't they fullbacks will certainly get as ours.

drop skertel and play agger next to carra (we all know carra won't be dropped but just so we all know i'd give him a slap and tell him to start to trust the player next to him) i would prefer agger because he can bring the ball out. this is more important than last season where the norm was to pass the ball two yards to alonso.

drop skrtel who has played virtually every league game in favor of someone who has just had an operation on hs back?

infact i'm not keen on rafa's veiled criticism of alonso by talking about how aquaman plays further up the pitch when without alonso playing as deep as he did most of our attacks would never have been built last season.

aqualini DOES play further up the pitch though, that's like having a go at someone for saying te sky is blue.

i would play aurelio ahead of insua. aurelio is the better left back.

correct. (imho)

masch should play alongside gerrard. the only time lucas has looked half decent this season is when gerrard has carried him playing next to him in centre midfield. masch should start and gerrard should take the place of that inept fake brazilian.

And if masher if injuried as he was midweek?

riera on the left, yossi in the hole where he is far more effective and dirk on the right. none of this dirk second striker bollocks or yossi on the left where he is shit.

I have to agree, however if mash plays then I’d drop yossi

torres on fire upfront.

That’s a gimme

oh and between now and then sort our fucking set piece defending out and get yossi and aurelio on corners, gerrard can practice heading the ball in the box or picking up loose balls and bashing them into the top corner

I’d let aurelio (if he plays) take them from the left and gerrard take them from the right

now what of that does anyone really disagree with?

Nothing to controversial to get flamed if it all goes tits up, other than agger coming in which wont happen in a million years

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36184.msg955094#msg955094 date=1254382272]
Football is all opinions.

And I think Drogba on current form would absolutely own Skittles or Carragher.
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He's absolutely 'owned' a fully fit Agger before too and his MOTM status in the following game was down to his offensive play (and his goal), Chelsea barely got in our half in the second game, thanks to a big team effort.