I basically mean dribblers, players who can pull off tricks, weave their way past a few players, do nutmegs etc.
No biggie really. If my "technically gifted" remark bothers you then I apologise.
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I basically mean dribblers, players who can pull off tricks, weave their way past a few players, do nutmegs etc.
No biggie really. If my "technically gifted" remark bothers you then I apologise.
That wouldn't necessarily be my interpretation of the term "technically gifted".
I would expect a technically gifted player to have a great first touch, deliver excellent dead balls , give perfectly weighted passes and select the right delivery at goal, as well as read the game.
A good dribbler is not an asset unless there is an end product, and may just have a singular natural ability
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I would expect a technically gifted player to have a great first touch, deliver excellent dead balls , give perfectly weighted passes and select the right delivery at goal, as well as read the game.
A good dribbler is not an asset unless there is an end product, and may just have a singular natural ability
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Isn't that an intelligent player?
And do these "technically gifted" players need to have an end product? Or is being merely 'weavey tricksters with some dribbles' enough?
I would usually say dribbling isn't the most technical trait.
Zidane is the most technical complete player I've seen. I don't buy the gifted part because every single 1 of those players practised night and day to become that good. They have some natural ability but to be as good as the very best are it takes years and years of dedication. What I would say we have now is a good group of flair players who are comfortable running with the ball at their feet.
Zidane is the most technical complete player I've seen. I don't buy the gifted part because every single 1 of those players practised night and day to become that good. They have some natural ability but to be as good as the very best are it takes years and years of dedication. What I would say we have now is a good group of flair players who are comfortable running with the ball at their feet.
I don't think it's relevant in this discussion but it would be stupid if I said no.
yeah we've made progress in our attack but regressed in defence. Biggest thing we've regressed in is fighting spirit. Too many times we lose a goald and just fall apart and the opposition score again. That to me isn't progress at all.
Thats why personally i think for us to have a chance tonight we need at LEAST 4 goals.
Thats why personally i think for us to have a chance tonight we need at LEAST 4 goals.
Is that what it takes if you wanna be a record breaker?
As the great Alan Latchley once said, it's all about the three Ms - 'Motivation, Motivation, and Motivation'.
This season we all agreed, I am pretty sure all, that it would be one of transition, indeed some said it could be two or three years before we were challenging for fourth spot again.
In reality the level of expectation has never decreased, partly due to us just being the way we are as football fans, and partly because we can, although it must be in the sub continuos of some, or they won't admit it, see real progress and the future looking brighter.
Yes, yes , yes, Rodgers has got some stuff wrong, and yes some of it is basic, all managers do, it's not an exact science.
He was not helped by the boards fuck-up in the summer window, nor by our two centre backs turning into Laurel and Hardy, and Reina's bad for progressing markedly season , we can't change any of that.
If we buy another couple of decent players , including a keeper that dominates his area, this summer, manage to get Skrtel and Agger back to their 2011/12 form, and see Sturridge develop like the promise he shows and keep showing Luis the love, a top four place is more than realistic.
The reason some are being so critical now in this season of low expectation, and transition is that they are frustrated as they can see our capabilities even now.
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In reality the level of expectation has never decreased, partly due to us just being the way we are as football fans, and partly because we can, although it must be in the sub continuos of some, or they won't admit it, see real progress and the future looking brighter.
Yes, yes , yes, Rodgers has got some stuff wrong, and yes some of it is basic, all managers do, it's not an exact science.
He was not helped by the boards fuck-up in the summer window, nor by our two centre backs turning into Laurel and Hardy, and Reina's bad for progressing markedly season , we can't change any of that.
If we buy another couple of decent players , including a keeper that dominates his area, this summer, manage to get Skrtel and Agger back to their 2011/12 form, and see Sturridge develop like the promise he shows and keep showing Luis the love, a top four place is more than realistic.
The reason some are being so critical now in this season of low expectation, and transition is that they are frustrated as they can see our capabilities even now.
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I would agree with that last sentence but I would say the same is true every year. It was certainly true when Benitez was in charge because everyone could tell we were so close and for me it's been true over the last few years because I've never believed that we were as bad as results showed.
As I said the other day we have lacked a manager that will come in and put together a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts. Hopefully Rodgers will buck that trend.
We have looked good at times this season and there are some positives to take away (Sturridge being the main one), however ultimately 99% of the good as been a result of Suarez playing out of his skin.
Progress will ultimately hinge on whether we get to keep him or not.
As I said the other day we have lacked a manager that will come in and put together a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts. Hopefully Rodgers will buck that trend.
We have looked good at times this season and there are some positives to take away (Sturridge being the main one), however ultimately 99% of the good as been a result of Suarez playing out of his skin.
Progress will ultimately hinge on whether we get to keep him or not.
We are still a forward short though
Consistent improvement in league position this season, better points than last season and ditched some older heads for fresh legs. Progress I'd say but a lot still to do and prove for Brendan.
that just means we had a shit start no?
Yea but I like graphs and I don't want to be a depressing fucker 😀
Looks to me like evidence that Rodgers is consistently getting more out of his players, we've had set backs and a shit start but it's all going in the right direction. Top four 2013/14 season.
We've got the same number of points after 27 games as we had last season. Our record over the final 11 games of last season was W4 D1 L6, so we do have a good chance of beating 52pts as we don't have a particularly hard fixture list and our toughest games (on paper) are all at home.
It feels more 'right' this way though, building a team that can now properly batter the shit teams and hopefully improve to compete with the top teams.
Instead of
We can beat united, city, chelsea, anyone on our day but fuck up against the smallest or worst sides in the league. I always really hated the "can't get themselves up for it against the little teams" tag we've had placed on us a lot over recent years. The inconsistency of not knowing just how good we are is so fucking annoying but it feels like we have a real idea of where we are and what we need now.
Instead of
We can beat united, city, chelsea, anyone on our day but fuck up against the smallest or worst sides in the league. I always really hated the "can't get themselves up for it against the little teams" tag we've had placed on us a lot over recent years. The inconsistency of not knowing just how good we are is so fucking annoying but it feels like we have a real idea of where we are and what we need now.
In the first half of the season I'd have agreed with you. We looked clueless in both attack and defence. We relied solely on giving the ball to Suarez and then hoping for the best.
Now though, the way we're destroying some of those teams is definitely different. Of course Suarez is involved in a lot of that, the Enrique super team goal for example, but the rest of the team seems to now have a much better understanding of what to do when in the final third.
How many times did we see anyone providing an opportunity for Suarez last season the way Coutinho did for his second goal the other day? It helps that Suarez was the super striker on the receiving end of that pass, but he'd not have had the opportunity without that ball. He did his job as a striker, as a part of the team.
So, we are out of the league race by mid october and all cups by mid January. Nothing to play for bar a decent top half finish. But we play nice football against poor teams, that is good.
Oh change the fucking tired record. We're scoring more goals, soz for not winning the league like. Many people have already said that in terms of the cups and stepping up a few places in the league, it hasn't been good enough, but the progress in terms of style and proficiency is there to see. If you're looking at progress on a chart then yeah, feel free to take the "results and final placing is all that matter" route, if you want to show a bit of perspective, quit with the overused bitter comments, we get it by now, you were saying it in the Summer.
Thats bullshit Mark and you know it. I am as happy as anyone else that we play nice football and start to get endresult from games we dominate. That is a change from last season were we dominated games with no endresult. However the big difference is that Suarez puts away chances he missed last . Big progress? What are the demands around?
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