Everton can take points off City. I've thought for weeks that was going to be a key game. We never do it the easy way, why would this time be any different?
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I don't know ...everybody knew exactly what chelsea were going to do and yet we couldn't stop it . Actually the fact it was spoken about so much probably got into our heads and from the moment we went one down it was "shit , that's it isn't it " . We just didn't look like we believed we could score even though we did try and keep the tempo up .
I do wonder though what the plan was to break them down , we obviously knew what they were going to do yet we didn't remain composed and seemed to run out of ideas . We had a few half chances but we never really panicked them , they were always in control .
I do wonder though what the plan was to break them down , we obviously knew what they were going to do yet we didn't remain composed and seemed to run out of ideas . We had a few half chances but we never really panicked them , they were always in control .
My thoughts:
* I'm a bit disappointed in Rodgers - he knew this is what Mourinho would do. He should have had a Plan B in case it worked.
* I am not blaming Atkinson for the loss, but I cannot understand how a referee can acknowledge time wasting from the FIRST MINUTE of the game and THROUGHOUT the match and only give a yellow card in the 92nd minute. It is FUCKING RIDIUCLOUS - how do you stop it? Yellow cards ...
* Solid game from our defense - they really didn't do anything wrong. Mign made one excellent save on Shirley - and held his own well.
* I think it's rather obvious Lucas has yet to fully recover from his injuries over the last 18 months. I don't think he will recover etiher - he's a shadow of the player he was becoming before his tear, and he's just not good enough. He's not the reason we lost in case people think I'm blaming him.
* Suarez ... he's been off form the last few games. That chance late on was just asking to be put to one side and he shot right at the keeper.
* Coutinho - he tried hard, but was far too wasteful. The team should have worked harder on quick passes, but we kept on trying through balls etc
* Sterling ... wasn't given much room and was harassed physically, as we all knew was coming. Struggled but it's a learning game.
* I hate Mourinho with an absolute passion. It would make me really happy to see Atleti absolutely destroy Chelsea.
* I sincerely thought Aspas coming on would be part of a magical season ... a game tying goal, or a wonderful assist ... Fucking terrible, and I hope he's fucked off. To think he wears #9.
* If we don't win this game because of that slip, I don't think Gerrard will ever rid himself of that moment. It will define him rightly or wrongly ...
I'll try to be positive on the last point
* It's not over yet. It's not in our hands, but let's win our last two games and hope Palace find a goal today to get a point, or Everton beat them. I won't give up on this dream.
* I'm a bit disappointed in Rodgers - he knew this is what Mourinho would do. He should have had a Plan B in case it worked.
* I am not blaming Atkinson for the loss, but I cannot understand how a referee can acknowledge time wasting from the FIRST MINUTE of the game and THROUGHOUT the match and only give a yellow card in the 92nd minute. It is FUCKING RIDIUCLOUS - how do you stop it? Yellow cards ...
* Solid game from our defense - they really didn't do anything wrong. Mign made one excellent save on Shirley - and held his own well.
* I think it's rather obvious Lucas has yet to fully recover from his injuries over the last 18 months. I don't think he will recover etiher - he's a shadow of the player he was becoming before his tear, and he's just not good enough. He's not the reason we lost in case people think I'm blaming him.
* Suarez ... he's been off form the last few games. That chance late on was just asking to be put to one side and he shot right at the keeper.
* Coutinho - he tried hard, but was far too wasteful. The team should have worked harder on quick passes, but we kept on trying through balls etc
* Sterling ... wasn't given much room and was harassed physically, as we all knew was coming. Struggled but it's a learning game.
* I hate Mourinho with an absolute passion. It would make me really happy to see Atleti absolutely destroy Chelsea.
* I sincerely thought Aspas coming on would be part of a magical season ... a game tying goal, or a wonderful assist ... Fucking terrible, and I hope he's fucked off. To think he wears #9.
* If we don't win this game because of that slip, I don't think Gerrard will ever rid himself of that moment. It will define him rightly or wrongly ...
I'll try to be positive on the last point
* It's not over yet. It's not in our hands, but let's win our last two games and hope Palace find a goal today to get a point, or Everton beat them. I won't give up on this dream.
Agreed, but I'm not sure how much of a trap it is. If you need a goal and the other team doesn't, what are your options? When it becomes a completely attack vs defense game, you start to need more quality in every part of the pitch, rather than just a mini game of brilliant players on the counter, which has got us so many goals.
We don't have that quality, especially at fullback where it starts to become absolutely essential when they play a really tight back 4 with full backs tucked in and their wingers to make it almost six. We've been aware of that all season, and it speaks to how great it is that we're in the position we are in.
We also don't have any game changers on the bench. So you have to keep doing the same, and more often than not it will work. If the oppostion don't have to score, if you aren't quite on, one of your most productive strikers isn't fit, and you are playing vs the best defense in the league, it won't pan out, but you have to just keep at it.
'for their futures'? They've had a phenomenal turn around and have already got futures - with Pulis and the Premier League.
Oh well ... not surprising - you haven't believed in this team for years now (rightly or wrongly). Hopefully, they make you eat some massive pie as they've done all season long.
Rodgers plan was working fine. An individual error cost us.
@LeTallecWiz agree with the majority of that. Good post
I really don't think they will. This is a crushing psychological blow for us and a massive boost for them. I think it's more likely we drop points at Palace than City will at Everton.
Where? Is there logic behind that or just a gut feeling?
Not talking shite, just curious
Gerrard looking wrecked, Suarez sulking instead of tracking back and fighting, Coutinho waving his arms or looking straight to the ground every time he misplaced a ball - these are the things Rodgers has to work on the coming week.
Yes, it's not in our hands any more. But we have to win the next 2 anyway. Let's see where we finish then.
Yes, it's not in our hands any more. But we have to win the next 2 anyway. Let's see where we finish then.
Take a break. Go for a 30 minute walk then get back in to your books. Start with something you know well then move. This isn't worth the rest of your life. Besides, we're still in it (ok we need help), and we haven't been in this position for a long time and that's a good thing. 96 goals, 1st in April, 11 win streak. 50 goals from SAS. Best young player in the league.
Maybe Rodgers' was a bit naive today. We didn't need to win this game so maybe we could have sat back a little, taken our time and see if that tempted Chelsea to open up a little and attack more (even by instinct), leaving us more space to play into. Unlikely, I know, but we didn't even seem to try to vary our approach.
Although I've tried to avoid absolutely everything in the media since all the hype over the 'Gerrard huddle', I recall Rodgers saying at some point that we'd still be going out to win every game the same way we have been. It seems he was speaking the truth. Perhaps he needs to reflect on that a little and vary the approach, especially against his supposed mentor who, to be honest, currently outsmarts him like a dad versus his young child. [I despise Mourinho, so don't think that is any sort of praise].
Although I've tried to avoid absolutely everything in the media since all the hype over the 'Gerrard huddle', I recall Rodgers saying at some point that we'd still be going out to win every game the same way we have been. It seems he was speaking the truth. Perhaps he needs to reflect on that a little and vary the approach, especially against his supposed mentor who, to be honest, currently outsmarts him like a dad versus his young child. [I despise Mourinho, so don't think that is any sort of praise].
Yeh, that's right, I forgot, Pulis announced he's not going to be doing any selling of players in the summer so nobody is playing for a place in the new manager's squad next season. I wish I still had a link to that article. Have you got it?
Hey, it's so easy to pick someone in our team to blame, isn't it ?
At least, we showed spirit. We fought like lions. We threw everything including the kitchen sink. It just wasn't to be. Anyone could have made that mistake. Get behind the team or shut up.
"Fans"
At least, we showed spirit. We fought like lions. We threw everything including the kitchen sink. It just wasn't to be. Anyone could have made that mistake. Get behind the team or shut up.
"Fans"
Lucas didn't, he was shit
Aspas.
Ok you're right.
I was screaming at him the whole match. I mean, he even smiled when he scuffed a shot. Smiled !!
If there was one thing I'd be inclined to blame Rodgers for it was bringing that fucking waster on. Completely fucking pointless. Luis Alberto at least has quality and guile, he'd have been much better. Young Jack Dunn was rumoured to be in the squad: he should have been. He's passionate, can score goals, and has a brilliant left foot. He's have been better. A fucking long shot but still better.
But fuckups can happen in every game, and do; we've frequently fucked up at the back this season so we actually do have to legislate for it in a general sense. My point was, perhaps if we'd sat back ourselves and not gone on the attack like we normally do we might have altered the pattern of the game earlier.
I remember his impact on the game (1 positive, 1 overwhelmingly negative). Lucas offered fuck all in attack and defence
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