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Don't quite get what his point there would be. It's not like we didn't try and work our way down the flanks. Sadly they had good (if not massive fucking cunty) fullbacks, who would have shut us out.

Ideally we should have isolated kalas, but he rarely was on his own with no cover ahead or behind him

We worked down the flanks but it was plain to see that we were more comfortable stringing the ball through the middle.
 
I think the bench was the key today. Chelsea's 2nd goal scorer is a player Brendan wanted but it was Chelsea that could bring him on.

Aspas was awful. But I thought we'd have brought on Alberto as he's supposed to be very handy from the edge of the box.

Alberto would be a nice introduction, doubt a potential match winner. But who knows. Bit annoying in retrospect
 
I think Rodgers was far too respectful. I think we should have roughed them up a bit and got under their collars and not allowed them to get their way with playing 7 players that deep. We don't really have a player for that....someone like a Momo Sissoko. But we still were naive even allowing for the personnel we have. You know how often the Mancs had a controversial dirty game that they came out on top when they really needed a win? We needed to do that today....

Seeing Mourinho setup like that, the only choice Rodgers had was to give his side a blow under the belt and use the home advantage....but he was far too respectful. I can never imagine we would have played a derby game like that.
 
I'd like to hear of this mythical plan B people would like us to have

Scoring usually isn't our problem. Today we couldn't break down the tightest of defences the league has to offer.

Explain with our personnel, what our plan b is?


There is no need - because only Chelsea have the quality of defenders in this league to do what they did today. All the other teams would have slipped up against the sustained way we attacked them. We just did not create enough to get behind them. This happens, and the season they won the CL, remember Barca were unable to break them down ?, Plan B stuff is a load of Bollocks overall, as most managers try all that sh*t at some stage (i.e. telling the defenders to go up front, big boy up front - sam alardice style of play). In this game we tried the following:-

a) break them down using our normal way of playing and we did create a few chances (hard ones)
b) tried long shots from range - no luck.
c) tried introducing more attacking threats by taking of Lucas first, and then Flanagan.
d) all our defenders were up there at the end trying to make a difference, and we got caught on the break.

So a, b, c, d were tried and that is all we can do.
 
Maybe if we hadn't wasted 20 million on aspas, alberto and borini we might have a reserve player we could bring of the bench (or start when we have injuries / suspensions) as a 'plan B'.
 
I'd settle for a tweak to Plan A where we stop passing it along the back line when the receiving player has an opponent close enough to make any mistake costly. We've all been sat cursing this style of play all season so, in a MUST NOT LOSE game (rather than one we had to win), we could have adopted a bit more Carragher-hoofing.
 
You don't need a plan b. You just need a plan p. Patience. You don't win titles without it, and we don't have it. If our frantic first 20 minutes doesn't pay off, they're suddenly completely bemused. Oh yes, and Gerrard, Stevie Me, get some fucking studs.
 
I'd settle for a tweak to Plan A where we stop passing it along the back line when the receiving player has an opponent close enough to make any mistake costly. We've all been sat cursing this style of play all season so, in a MUST NOT LOSE game (rather than one we had to win), we could have adopted a bit more Carragher-hoofing.


Ah - Brazil 82vsItaly (WC Semi)
 
You don't need a plan b. You just need a plan p. Patience. You don't win titles without it, and we don't have it. If our frantic first 20 minutes doesn't pay off, they're suddenly completely bemused. Oh yes, and Gerrard, Stevie Me, get some fucking studs.


gkmacca - yes maybe that is the point we can take from this. Could be a way to bring them out a bit too. However, it looked like they were never going to come out, and somehow Jose knew that we were NEVER going to play for the draw regardless of it being actually an advantage to us. I guess he knows Brendan well enough to realize that.
 
I thought today our plan B should have been not going all out attack. After the 1st half an hour we should just have kept the ball. In hindsight, 1 point would have been better than no points.
 
All tried today.

Changed our methods of attack, or formation, and our bench (sturridge is decent).

I'm waiting for someone to tell me what they would have done different to Rodgers today.


Personally I'd have taken more of a risk with my subs. I really think Aspas is just a pointless waste of space. I'd have had at least one of the kids on the bench just to offer some kind of maverick option, something unpredictable, and pray for a Macheda style intervention. I said this when Sturridge first got injured, so it's not just hindsight.

In particular, I'd have been looking for someone with a powerful strike, because that was probably our best chance of scoring. We've got very little threat from 25 yards.
 
Little threat, yes.

But the chances were there.

Stevie wasn't confident enough anymore. Suarez sulked himself into a state where he didn't have the composure anymore. Coutinho isn't very good at shooting.
 
Plan b is having game changers on the bench.

Add some quality in the summer and we won't have to worry about a plan b
 
Gerrard can't strike from distance these days.

Tbh it sounds simplistic but I never understand why teams faced with tactics like Chelsea's don't just take shot after shot from 20-30 yards. Apart from anything else it would force teams out of their shape to come and close the space.
 
I thought today our plan B should have been not going all out attack. After the 1st half an hour we should just have kept the ball. In hindsight, 1 point would have been better than no points.

In foresight 1 point is better than no points.
 
After 11 wins on the trot were we changed our shape, tactics and players to get results, the whole plan b seems a bit silly to me tbh.

The goal before half time fucked us royally. Not just the timing but also how it happened.
 
Ok. Plan a would have worked with SAS on song & Hendo on the pitch.

As that wasn't as option, plan b should have been possession football.

Not possession then attacking, not passing through them. Possession. Death by fucking boredom.

They didn't, couldn't, wouldn't, force the play, they had to wait for a mistake. We could have settled for a draw & hoped for the same.

We had more to gain by killing the game, & when it became clear they wouldn't let us play football should have done so.
 
Patience would have been a virtue but they would have allowed us keep the ball in midfield all day long.

Perhaps would should have tried to get in behind them more but that's difficult to do due to their deep sitting defence.

Id like to hear @Ryan 's take on it.
 
Well, we were doing that though. But the goal they scored is something you cant defend against..
 
Well, we were doing that though. But the goal they scored is something you cant defend against..


Yeah, this is what I don't understand. I really don't know what else people expect in terms of tactics. We attacked them but not cavalierly: they had very little joy on the counter.

Our lack of options in attack has caught up with us, as was completely predictable in January. If we had Konoplyanka in the team today instead of Lucas we probably would've won the game and won the league.

That dithering in January is the single biggest mistake of our season, simply because it was so avoidable.
 
I hate Aspas, and was fuming when we signed him, but I genuinely thought he was going to grab an equaliser today. And for that I hate him even more
 
Yeh lucas was a mistake. With regards to tactics, the only thing thing we could have done was to try to draw them put a little to create space. But does anyone really think they would have felt for that? I don't.

I guess maybe we could have just played for a point though.
 
Ok. Plan a would have worked with SAS on song & Hendo on the pitch.

As that wasn't as option, plan b should have been possession football.

Not possession then attacking, not passing through them. Possession. Death by fucking boredom.

They didn't, couldn't, wouldn't, force the play, they had to wait for a mistake. We could have settled for a draw & hoped for the same.

We had more to gain by killing the game, & when it became clear they wouldn't let us play football should have done so.



If we did that and they still got the first goal, we would have crucified Rodgers for not sticking with what has been working. We got this far playing our way and I am glad we tried to do the same today.

It really was just 'one of those days'.
 
The phrase 'Plan B' is a myth. It actually doesn't exist in football, unless you want to describe lumping the ball long and high into the box after giving up on your own gameplan.

It's perpetrated by fans who A) have no fucking clue about tactics, B) don't know whey their usual fucking tactics didn't work, and C) think it sounds tacticy and smart.

'Where's our Plan B???!!'

Where's your fucking brain.
 
It's completely fucking moronic.

Someone define what 'Plan B' means for me please?


I guess it means to change a teams tactics during the game....like Brendan already has done on several occasions, for instance when he brought on Lucas in the West Ham game.

He tried to make some changes today as well, didn't work too well, hence "Brendan has no Plan B" or whatever people want to call it.
 
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