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Our CL places to drop from 4 to 3?

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jon545660

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Top 3 countries get 4 places, the next 3 countries get 3 places.

Current UEFA Rankings (17th March 2015)

1 Spain 94.713
2 England 80.105
3 Germany 77.986
4 Italy 66.010
5 Portugal 60.882
6 France 51.916

So the country we need to worry about is Italy. They look a long way off, but they've scored more coefficient points than England this season (England 13.285, Italy 14.500), and Italy still have six teams playing in European competition. England have errrrr... Everton.

Fortunately, the coefficient scores are calculated from the last 5 seasons, so it would take the current form to continue for maybe 3 or 4 seasons before Italy could overtake us.

So a question for those that follow the Italian league - are they improving? Is more money going into Italian football and raising the standard?

Or are we just seeing a short term blip and we should expect English teams to rise again once the new Premier League TV deals kick in?
 
When did the tax rate change in England to the 50% rate?

That seemed to be the first killer blow. Once the financial strength was eroded we were left to see how well run the club's were.

And this seems to be the result
 
When did the tax rate change in England to the 50% rate?



That seemed to be the first killer blow. Once the financial strength was eroded we were left to see how well run the club's were.



And this seems to be the result

It came in in 2011 and was reduced to 45% in 2013 so I don't see your point.
 
It came in in 2011 and was reduced to 45% in 2013 so I don't see your point.

You don't see how being forced to pay more than other countries for the same player doesn't erode an English clubs competitiveness?
 
At the start of next season, England will be third with Italy not that far behind.
England are going to lose approx. 18.3 points from the 10/11 season compared to 11.5 for Italy
they could overtake England next season and would mean losing one CL spot from the 16/17 season.

http://fr.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/
Not on current form. There would have to be a hell of a turnaround in Italy's favour for that to happen.
 
It's at least 3 or 4 years off happening, but even then we'd have to continue doing much worse than the Italian teams for two more seasons.

City haven't helped, because they've come from nowhere and had no seeding and keep getting horrible groups, which one way or another has always led to an early exit.
 
You don't see how being forced to pay more than other countries for the same player doesn't erode an English clubs competitiveness?

I would say that the tax rates for footballers are broadly similar in Europe at the moment with the exception of Russia and France with very low and extremely high tax respectively. Tax rates in Spain were much lower when the PL clubs were dominating during from 2005 to 2011 ( eight finalists in eight finals ) so no I don't see you point.

Of far far greater significance now is the rate of exchange - to go from 1.05 to 1.40 gives the British clubs far more buying power now and inflates the wages for players from the Eurozone massively.
 
Speaking of the CL, So I got my photo taken with Old Big Ears in NYC last night. The trophy is doing the rounds and has a media tour. Nice to see the team name etched into the back of it. Jerzy was there, with David Villa, and Rivaldo. I didn't get to speak with Jerzy he was busy hugging all the Heineken reps. Got to meet Villa, who doesn't have a lick of English, and is so young looking (and more diminutive than I imagined!). Christ he was young looking.
 
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