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Other matches April 15-18

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I've been watching Sevilla more than most for years, because I followed them and Betis a little while I was there for a few months. Sevilla are pretty mediocre. I've never seen them do anything when I vaguely want them to get a result, especially against a decent side.

There's something quite wrong with United, and Ten Hag hasn't fixed it yet, happily.
Sevilla and the EL just have that connection.

Fully expect them to go on and win the whole thing now.
 
De Gea was at fault for both the first and third imho.
Tired of earning 400k per week.

Brighton will beat Utd in the FA cup this weekend as well.

DDG and Maguire were a joy tonight.

Brighton will massacre Utd next week, especially if Varane and Martinez both still out.

Wouldn't put it past them to finish 5th either.
 
So it will Xabi vs Mourinho is the EL semi-finals. Also Sevilla vs Juve - pretty good match-ups. EL is almost more interesting than the CL this year.
 
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Every time I whinge at Arsenal players and, ti be fair, their fan’ condescending attitude to football style, this always gives me a pause.

But you’re right, I’m not sure there’s just NOT another team I’d like to win the league if it’s not Liverpool. Full stop.
Don't think it's about liking another team to win the league if its not us but more about the degrees of not hating the team who win. Arsenal are obviously a less detestable team to city and as a bunch of fans they are the only ones out of the so called top 6 who respect the minutes silence... Spurs fans are the real joke of a bunch of supporters
 
To be fair, De Gea was probably the bigger culprit on the first goal, never mind the 3rd.
Looks like he’s tired of the life in Manchester.
Maguire wanted the ball, he pointed it and De Gea played it. Both should have known better but it was another classic Maguire thinking he is some ball playing CB when he is not.

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Sevilla really played very last night, swarmed all over Utd from the get go...forced them into mistakes and it paid off for them.

What's good about the EL this year is that each 1 (other than Juve now that they're 15 point deduction been overturned) need it to guarantee qualification into CL next season.
 
Yeah, but look at the positioning of the 3 Sevilla players. 0-0, 5 mins, 2-2 on aggregate and playing away. You kick it the fuck long.

Yeah. But Maguire has this habit of punting the ball long. One in twenty tends to find a United player by pure randomness and immediately his acolytes in the media paint him as some kind of Baresi Beckenbauer hybrid. Leicester really did a number on United.

By the way, it was not a great pass by De Gea but Maguire still had time to recover and get the ball to safety. He decided to dwell on the ball with three attackers approaching.
 
How about winning a trophy?

Before the Russians/Chinese/Arab ruined football with their oil money it was unthinkable that the worlds highest paid transfer fee for a player could have no credibility.

& instantly I think back to the times when Juve had just signed Thuram for about 30m and at the time he was already a world cup & serie a winner.
 
Yeah, but look at the positioning of the 3 Sevilla players. 0-0, 5 mins, 2-2 on aggregate and playing away. You kick it the fuck long.

You only kick it long if you don't trust your CB at all. He turns on that or shows any awareness and it's a great opportunity and you're at the halfway line with three players totally out of play.

And you might rightly say "why trust that CB" even though he's instructed to play out because playing out like that is the bread and butter of any modern team with any aspirations. Well, then, again, it's the CB that is the problem. His awareness is awful and he's slow of foot and mind.

Good teams invite a press like that, it wasn't even that ferocious or complete, it was just they know that he's shit and crumbles.
 
How about winning a trophy?

Before the Russians/Chinese/Arab ruined football with their oil money it was unthinkable that the worlds highest paid transfer fee for a player could have no credibility.

& instantly I think back to the times when Juve had just signed Thuram for about 30m and at the time he was already a world cup & serie a winner.

He was to be their van dijk.

It is just delightful. Gift that keeps on giving.
 
You only kick it long if you don't trust your CB at all. He turns on that or shows any awareness and it's a great opportunity and you're at the halfway line with three players totally out of play.

And you might rightly say "why trust that CB" even though he's instructed to play out because playing out like that is the bread and butter of any modern team with any aspirations. Well, then, again, it's the CB that is the problem. His awareness is awful and he's slow of foot and mind.

Good teams invite a press like that, it wasn't even that ferocious or complete, it was just they know that he's shit and crumbles.

Its not about that though. Its about that specific situation and the timing of it. Maguire is shit and a major issue for Utd. But I would expect both Ederson and Alisson to play that ball to anyone else but the CB with 3 players surrounding him in the 5th minute in an away tie in Europe.
 
Its not about that though. Its about that specific situation and the timing of it. Maguire is shit and a major issue for Utd. But I would expect both Ederson and Alisson to play that ball to anyone else but the CB with 3 players surrounding him in the 5th minute in an away tie in Europe.

Surrounding him? They were meters away, not that he had any awareness of where they are.

 
Like, arsenal will win still, but this is temporarily banter central
 
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