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rurikbird

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Let's discuss how other teams have improved (or not) compared to last season. Numbers at the end of each paragraph represent last season's position / my prediction for this season:

Top 6 teams:

Man City – added even more creativity with Mahrez, should also improve at LB with Mendy back from a long-term injury (last season this was probably their only real weakness). Need cover for Fernandinho, but otherwise looking very strong. Pep won't allow complacency. 1/1

Arsenal – the late Wenger-era stagnation is over, but the fresh winds of change under Unai Emery will probably guide them to the shores of solid European middle-to-upper classdom (think Sevilla or post-Klopp Dortmund) rather than to the coveted upper echelon of the game. Signings like Bernd Leno, Sokratis and Torreira finally address the obvious weaknesses in the squad, but again this is no more than mid-upper level European quality as most of the newcomers couldn't be said to outgrow the clubs they came from. However the quality of the attacking talent left by Wenger is on par with almost anybody in the league: Aubameyang, Lacazette, Ozil, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey... and that's Arsenal big hope this season – that patching up the obvious issues in the back and the midfield will allow the top-class attacking quintet to shine. I think long-term they will slide to relative mediocrity as almost all of their best players are nearing the end of their prime and their contracts and won't be replaced like-for-like, but this season will probably be their best for a while. 6/3.

Spurs – I don't really get why people often cite "new stadium" as the reason why they won't do well. Is this really that big of a factor? They have not improved, but should still be good for 70-75 points. Let's see what happens on the deadline day though; Levy usually leaves his business (buying or selling) very late. 3/4

Man United – probably a mess. Mourinho will go down in flames. 2/5

Chelsea – Sarri-ball is the closest thing in the world to Klopp-ball and in fact I would guess Klopp borrows more ideas from the Italian tactician than vice versa. However, Klopp's big advantage is his personality; he is able to implement those ideas in a very, shall we say, human and flexible way whereas Sarri is a more of a tactical ideologue than a leader of men. Having him in the EPL trying to re-create his Napoli side on English soil is probably one of the most intriguing story-lines of the season – but I suspect Chelsea and Sarri are a wrong fit for each other: a non-English speaking manager who needs time and trust to put his ground-breaking ideas into practice, a notoriously impatient owner and a dressing room rife with unchecked player power plus a few big names who seem to be on the verge of leaving. The squad seems poorly balanced for Sarri's 4-3-3 tactical system and there are too many question marks – even Jorginho, who I generally like, seems less of a threat at Chelsea than he would have been at United or City. Even if all of this doesn't immediately crash and burn, there will be too many drastic changes and question marks over key players for any kind of consistency. 5/6.
 
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What's the numbers at the end?
Position last year/expected position?
 
They’ve used a heather texture, which is a slight change to their generic Everton kit, but it’s not really doing it for me. It looks to me just like every other Everton home kit I’ve ever seen.

The colour palette for the away kit for me is just a little too bright. I think they’ve seen how last year's Arsenal away kit went down a storm with that similar colour palette, and they’ve tried to emulate that, but I don’t think it’s worked.

Also with the Angry Birds logo on the side, it just looks like a bit of a joke, especially in fluorescent pink.

If I were an Everton fan, I wouldn’t be seen in either of these kits.

Style: 4. Originality: 3. Wearability: 3 - Total: 10
 
City : Mahrez strengthens their depth not their 1st team so a bit of an irrelevance in that regard, although it will give them stronger teams in the FAC/LC and bench. Mendy back is the major improvement, he looked ace when he returned last season and a big upgrade on LB. That strength in depth is going to be difficult to overcome and although they are still my picks to win the PL the CL, and our respective performances in it, could have a major affect on the destination of the PL title.

Spurs : strong team and reasonable depth whether they sign anyone or not. Tough start though with so many players returning later from the WC. That could cost them. 4th.

Arsenal : stronger but so much change and a new manager plus EL nights on Thursdays. It'll not come together enough for this season. 6th.

United : Mourinho's attitude will surely rub off on the team and cause unrest. Have not strengthened in any of their areas of weakness : LB, RB, CB, DM and RW. I doubt he will last the season. 5th

Chelsea : If they keep hold of Hazard and Willian then I can see Kovacic and possibly Fekir (if they get him) or another striker to replace Morata as the spearhead, strengthening the team. A lot depends on Kepa - is he really as good as Courtois ? They are in the EL but I can see them dedicating more resources to the PL. 3rd.
 
While we're at the other teams, this has the potential for more cringe than Brendan and three envelopes

 
I hope they show the aftermath of us dumping them out of the European cup.
 
Other teams (last season's place/my prediction):

West Ham – My pick to be the "best of the rest." Pellegrini is a huge improvement on Moyes, the squad has a good deal of physicality and EPL experience and the signings of the likes of Yarmolenko, Felipe Anderson and Fabianski will add more quality where it was needed. 13/7

Wolves – their squad was already EPL-quality even last year in the Championship and now they are just taking a piss with signings like Rui Patricio, Joao Moutinho, very talented Zinchenko from Man City, very talented Adama Traore, and Dendonker (rumoured today). I think they will go straight to the top half of the table and stay there all season. C/8

Leicester – I think they will be OK; the signings of Ghezzal and Maddison and expected progress of Demarai Grey should soften the blow of losing Mahrez. They do have a decent spine (provided that Maguire doesn't get sold today) with Schmeichel, Maguire and Evans, Ndidi, possibly Maddison and Vardy. 9/9

Crystal Palace – they have a real star in Zaha, a solid well-paid team and a mid-table specialist as a manager. Meyer should be a perfect replacement for Cabaye. All of this should be enough to finish in the top half considering that most of the competition is worse. 11/10

Southampton – nobody can ever say they are "inspired" by Mark Hughes, but he should have enough know-how to return Saints to the mid-table after the aberration of the last season. Unfortunately their talent pool in attack looks quite thin compared to the squads of recent years so it will be a rather dull team. 17/11

Burnley – a team with a unique, very traditionally "English" style of play and a small tightly-knit squad. I think a lot will depend of whether they will progress through the qualifying rounds of the EL; if yes they might struggle in the league with that small squad, if they get knocked out early they should be more of less fine. I wonder if the novelty wears off at some point and teams adjust better to the way Burnley play. They definitely won't finish as high this season. 7/12

Everton – a bit like Chelsea, a squad with some real quality (albeit at a lower level), but many question marks and lack of balance. A slow, aging defense + a manager who likes to play a high line = lots of goals at the wrong end. And do they have a spine and some real leaders in the team (who are not all the wrong side of 30?) It all might come together magically and work, but it's more likely that they will be very inconsistent, with only the quality of the playing squad keeping them comfortably above relegation. 8/13

Fulham – another Championship team that should have no problem adjusting to the life in the EPL after a summer of even more spectacular investment by their wealthy owner (oh, what would Newcastle fans give for this kind of sugar daddy!) Jean-Michel Seri was among the targets for Barca, United and Liverpool and ended up at Fulham, so did World Cup winner Schürrle and they have possibly a young superstar in Sessegnon. They are not as tactically fine-tuned as Wolves, which is why I think they will finish in lower mid-table rather than upper. C/14

Bournemouth – Eddie Howe will get to fight another day! 12/15

Newcastle – the squad is really poor and it will be up to Rafa once again to squeeze every drop of quality from these players and save Geordies from relegation. 10/16

Huddersfield – Like Arsenal and a few others, very much a "continental" team in the way they play with high-pressing style similar to that of Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim for example. It's good to have an LFC-friendly manager in the league, so let's hope the tactical ingenuity and fighting spirit can once again keep this frankly Championship-level squad afloat. 16/17

Brighton – a solid, unspectacular team that knows its limitations and fights for every point, but it won't be enough to save them from relegation considering the quality of the additions from the Championship this season. 15/18

Watford – another type of a "continental" team, not so much tactically like Huddersfield, but in terms of looking for decent players who can be signed for bargain fees throughout Europe and then somehow assembled into a semi-coherent squad. At some point all the bargain hunting must catch up with you. 14/19

Cardiff – it's straight back to the Championship, baby! C/20.
 
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That Newcastle squad was absolute garbage last season and they haven't improved it at all, should be a tough season for Rafa
 
Other teams (last season's place/my prediction):

West Ham – My pick to be the "best of the rest." Pellegrini is a huge improvement on Moyes, the squad has a good deal of physicality and EPL experience and the signings of the likes of Yarmolenko, Felipe Anderson and Fabianski will add more quality where it was needed. 13/7

Wolves – their squad was already EPL-quality even last year in the Championship and now they are just taking a piss with signings like Rui Patricio, Joao Moutinho, very talented Zinchenko from Man City, very talented Adama Traore, and Dendonker (rumoured today). I think they will go straight to the top half of the table and stay there all season. C/8

Leicester – I think they will be OK; the signings of Ghezzal and Maddison and expected progress of Demarai Grey should soften the blow of losing Mahrez. They do have a decent spine (provided that Maguire doesn't get sold today) with Schmeichel, Maguire and Evans, Ndidi, possibly Maddison and Vardy. 9/9

Crystal Palace – they have a real star in Zaha, a solid well-paid team and a mid-table specialist as a manager. Meyer should be a perfect replacement for Cabaye. All of this should be enough to finish in the top half considering that most of the competition is worse. 11/10

Southampton – nobody can ever say they are "inspired" by Mark Hughes, but he should have enough know-how to return Saints to the mid-table after the aberration of the last season. Unfortunately their talent pool in attack looks quite thin compared to the squads of recent years so it will be a rather dull team. 17/11

Burnley – a team with a unique, very traditionally "English" style of play and a small tightly-knit squad. I think a lot will depend of whether they will progress through the qualifying rounds of the EL; if yes they might struggle in the league with that small squad, if they get knocked out early they should be more of less fine. I wonder if the novelty wears off at some point and teams adjust better to the way Burnley play. They definitely won't finish as high this season. 7/12

Everton – a bit like Chelsea, a squad with some real quality (albeit at a lower level), but many question marks and lack of balance. A slow, aging defense + a manager who likes to play a high line = lots of goals at the wrong end. And do they have a spine and some real leaders in the team (who are not all the wrong side of 30?) It all might come together magically and work, but it's more likely that they will be very inconsistent, with only the quality of the playing squad keeping them comfortably above relegation. 8/13

Fulham – another Championship team that should have no problem adjusting to the life in the EPL after a summer of even more spectacular investment by their wealthy owner (oh, what would Newcastle fans give for this kind of sugar daddy!) Jean-Michel Seri was among the targets for Barca, United and Liverpool and ended up at Fulham, so did World Cup winner Schürrle and they have possibly a young superstar in Sessegnon. They are not as tactically fine-tuned as Wolves, which is why I think they will finish in lower mid-table rather than upper. C/14

Bournemouth – Eddie Howe will get to fight another day! 12/15

Newcastle – the squad is really poor and it will be up to Rafa once again to squeeze every drop of quality from these players and save Geordies from relegation. 10/16

Huddersfield – Like Arsenal and a few others, very much a "continental" team in the way they play with high-pressing style similar to that of Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim for example. It's good to have an LFC-friendly manager in the league, so let's hope the tactical ingenuity and fighting spirit can once again keep this frankly Championship-level squad afloat. 16/17

Brighton – a solid, unspectacular team that knows its limitations and fights for every point, but it won't be enough to save them from relegation considering the quality of the additions from the Championship this season. 15/18

Watford – another type of a "continental" team, not so much tactically like Huddersfield, but in terms of looking for decent players who can be signed for bargain fees throughout Europe and then somehow assembled into a semi-coherent squad. At some point all the bargain hunting must catch up with you. 14/19

Cardiff – it's straight back to the Championship, baby! C/20.

Can any of these squize into the top 6 Mix? I hope we see some progress from the hunt pack. Thanks for good analysis anyway!!
 
Arsenal have bought well and have a new, fresh manager. I fancy them to get top 4. Is there a predictions thread?
 
Can any of these squize into the top 6 Mix? I hope we see some progress from the hunt pack. Thanks for good analysis anyway!!

I wish, but I'm afraid the gap is still too big this year. Even having a few teams sit comfortably in mid-table and never be under threat of relegation would be an improvement on the shameful gap of last season.
 
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