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Match thread, Vålerenga - Liverpool

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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]Christ thats like saying that sirloin steak looks better than that greggs pasty.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]

Why do you think that is ?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]

I took a lot of stick for saying that Aquilani is our 2nd best midfielder.
 
The following is what I think we have learned from tonight and other pre season matches with regards the coming season............
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373302#msg1373302 date=1312225483]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373293#msg1373293 date=1312225297]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373290#msg1373290 date=1312225192]
Lots to be happy about in the end after some shit emotions early doors.
1.Downing was pretty good.
2.Downing and Carroll look like they have the early parts of an understanding.
3.Agger was superb.
4.Henderson was good and looks very busy.
5.Aquilani is class and still a Liverpool player.
6.Raheem was excellent.
7.Sterling came on and put in a good cameo.

Still missing Lucas, Suarez, Meireles and Maxi so most of our creativity.

Worrying at the back. But we will improve heaps once lucas is back in.
[/quote]

Lucas won't make a difference.

And Shelvey is about ten times better than him anyway.
[/quote]

as a holding midfielder? be honest, ross.
[/quote]

as anything.

Shelvey is much more talented. It's not even close.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373303#msg1373303 date=1312225485]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]Christ thats like saying that sirloin steak looks better than that greggs pasty.
[/quote]

Mmmm. Greggs pasty.
 
Good bit of training with loads of room to improvement. Nice surroundings in Norway.

Aqua was a bit of fresh air when introduced and assisted two goals. Against tiring Vålerenga legs mind. Still needs to prove himself against the best starting come Saturday (Valencia). Like him.

We'll be much improved in a fortnight I'm positive.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46297.msg1373305#msg1373305 date=1312225521]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]

I took a lot of stick for saying that Aquilani is our 2nd best midfielder.
[/quote]
You shouldn't have done.

It's not correct, but it's nowhere near as mental as nearly everything else you flippin post.

xx
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373309#msg1373309 date=1312225554]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373302#msg1373302 date=1312225483]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373293#msg1373293 date=1312225297]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373290#msg1373290 date=1312225192]
Lots to be happy about in the end after some shit emotions early doors.
1.Downing was pretty good.
2.Downing and Carroll look like they have the early parts of an understanding.
3.Agger was superb.
4.Henderson was good and looks very busy.
5.Aquilani is class and still a Liverpool player.
6.Raheem was excellent.
7.Sterling came on and put in a good cameo.

Still missing Lucas, Suarez, Meireles and Maxi so most of our creativity.

Worrying at the back. But we will improve heaps once lucas is back in.
[/quote]

Lucas won't make a difference.

And Shelvey is about ten times better than him anyway.
[/quote]

as a holding midfielder? be honest, ross.
[/quote]

as anything.

Shelvey is much more talented. It's not even close.
[/quote]

have you even seen shelvey as a holding midfielder?
 
[quote author=Krump link=topic=46297.msg1373310#msg1373310 date=1312225565]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373303#msg1373303 date=1312225485]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]Christ thats like saying that sirloin steak looks better than that greggs pasty.
[/quote]

Mmmm. Greggs pasty.
[/quote]OOOooo you dirty boy.
*begins masterbating*
 
[quote author=grjt link=topic=46297.msg1373316#msg1373316 date=1312225645]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46297.msg1373305#msg1373305 date=1312225521]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]

I took a lot of stick for saying that Aquilani is our 2nd best midfielder.
[/quote]
You shouldn't have done.

It's not correct, but it's nowhere near as mental as nearly everything else you flippin post.

xx
[/quote]CIM.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373317#msg1373317 date=1312225658]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373309#msg1373309 date=1312225554]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373302#msg1373302 date=1312225483]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373293#msg1373293 date=1312225297]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373290#msg1373290 date=1312225192]
Lots to be happy about in the end after some shit emotions early doors.
1.Downing was pretty good.
2.Downing and Carroll look like they have the early parts of an understanding.
3.Agger was superb.
4.Henderson was good and looks very busy.
5.Aquilani is class and still a Liverpool player.
6.Raheem was excellent.
7.Sterling came on and put in a good cameo.

Still missing Lucas, Suarez, Meireles and Maxi so most of our creativity.

Worrying at the back. But we will improve heaps once lucas is back in.
[/quote]

Lucas won't make a difference.

And Shelvey is about ten times better than him anyway.
[/quote]

as a holding midfielder? be honest, ross.
[/quote]

as anything.

Shelvey is much more talented. It's not even close.
[/quote]

have you even seen shelvey as a holding midfielder?
[/quote]

Have you ever considered sending out really limited players and labelling them as "holding midfielders" because they can't do anything that requires talent is a waste of a player ?

Shelvey is the closest thing to Xabi Alonso you'll ever see. We'll only get better by removing the really limited players from the team.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373319#msg1373319 date=1312225694]
[quote author=grjt link=topic=46297.msg1373316#msg1373316 date=1312225645]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46297.msg1373305#msg1373305 date=1312225521]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373298#msg1373298 date=1312225417]
aqua has looked a far more accomplised player than adam (the player who imho he is in direct competition with)
[/quote]

I took a lot of stick for saying that Aquilani is our 2nd best midfielder.
[/quote]
You shouldn't have done.

It's not correct, but it's nowhere near as mental as nearly everything else you flippin post.

xx
[/quote]CIM.
[/quote]

Grjt, who do you reckon is our 2nd best midfielder?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373323#msg1373323 date=1312225831]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373317#msg1373317 date=1312225658]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373309#msg1373309 date=1312225554]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46297.msg1373302#msg1373302 date=1312225483]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46297.msg1373293#msg1373293 date=1312225297]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373290#msg1373290 date=1312225192]
Lots to be happy about in the end after some shit emotions early doors.
1.Downing was pretty good.
2.Downing and Carroll look like they have the early parts of an understanding.
3.Agger was superb.
4.Henderson was good and looks very busy.
5.Aquilani is class and still a Liverpool player.
6.Raheem was excellent.
7.Sterling came on and put in a good cameo.

Still missing Lucas, Suarez, Meireles and Maxi so most of our creativity.

Worrying at the back. But we will improve heaps once lucas is back in.
[/quote]

Lucas won't make a difference.

And Shelvey is about ten times better than him anyway.
[/quote]

as a holding midfielder? be honest, ross.
[/quote]

as anything.

Shelvey is much more talented. It's not even close.
[/quote]

have you even seen shelvey as a holding midfielder?
[/quote]

Have you ever considered sending out really limited players and labelling them as "holding midfielders" because they can't do anything that requires talent is a waste of a player ?

Shelvey is the closest thing to Xabi Alonso you'll ever see. We'll only get better by removing the really limited players from the team.
[/quote]

I'm not really a lucas fan but whether he stays in the team or not is neither here nor there to me but I have seen lucas as a holding midfielder for two seasons and I haven't seen jonjo as a holding midfielder, at all.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46297.msg1373236#msg1373236 date=1312224061]
Kelly=50p head
[/quote]

Yes Kelly, the player loads of people keep saying is our future centre back and can be relied upon as back for the role this season. Erm....
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46297.msg1373354#msg1373354 date=1312227947]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46297.msg1373236#msg1373236 date=1312224061]
Kelly=50p head
[/quote]

Yes Kelly, the player loads of people keep saying is our future centre back and can be relied upon as back for the role this season. Erm....
[/quote]

haha.
 
Don't know how the heck anyone can go about analysing that match. a crazy one to say the least.

Plenty of shoddy, rash, slow defending on show once again...becoming more and more worrying. A new central defender just must be purchased.

In midfield, we looked a little all over the place. Understandable i guess with the 3 new lads all starting. Some promising signs though. Adam was quiet throughout but Henderson was bright in patches although didn't really have a great influence, hopefully he will when the real stuff kciks off. Thought Downing looked sharp and threatening in the most part...quick, direct, positive approach he has is a breath of fresh air and i can't say i'm his biggest fan.

Carroll blew hot and cold but as i said before the match, he needs people around him to function. Took his goal well and slowly but surely he's getting better by the game.

Aquilani was very impressive once again. His range of passing and technique is a joy to behold. Unfortunately it looks and sounds like Kenny wants rid.
 
Just got back from the game. Excellent atmosphere, great turnout and very nice weather. On 0-2 therecwas a sense jeeezess what the hell are these players doing in precseason. No pressure, no pace, no movement, awful passing and some truely shocking defending.

Downing, Agger, Carroll and Spearing had a decent game. Johnson and Henderson looked very out of shape.
Carra was abmysal. One of the worst performances in ages tbh. Lost everything in the air, got turned inside out lost every 50/50 challenge. Horrendous.

We lack a left back like there is no tomorrow, as Robinson made one forward run all game. Hopefully that and a cb will be adressed soon.

Not a knee jerk reaction due to beer and game frustraiton. But Im a bit worried to say the least. 3-3 against a 10th placed team fielding reserves, u-18s and borrowed players from league 2 over here is actually pretty shocking.

We dont seem to have a plan, pass and move dont excist, everything is in slow motion and the players act like total strangers.
Yes its pre season, but watching the players today I wish there was 1 month to kick off.

If we play as badly as this against Valencia Im going to get really really concerned. Hopefully the players are overloaded with training as they yet again looked knackered from the start. A bit lighter training and a bollocking from Kenny might get us going, but watching tonight was painful. The defence is all over the place and that must be adressed asap.

Nice to see the team and fellow Reds though. The players looked embarressed after the game and only Spearing and Reina showed the fans any interest, which was a bit shite tbh.

Oh, and Aquilani was ace. Really really ace.
 
Just saw the goals again. Shite defending and a very soft penalty. We got a fair bit to work on the next week. The players and especially Carra needs to step up.
 
Even the most optimistic of fans must have serious concerns at this point, our defence is shambolic, for the last 3 weeks we have been saying 'it doesnt matter its just about fitness' but as the players get fitter and the line up gets closer and closer to our strongest available the level of organisation in the defence is not improving, we are throwing away goals against really poor sides, 3 a game against teams in some cases several levels below us.

I know its bordering on blasphemy to say anything against Kenny but he really needs to get his act together now, we have a week to go before the season starts and this easy going no pressure bullshit has to stop, if we carry over this sort of sloppy attitude into the season we will get minced.

We will be missing our two best attacking players for the first few games so goals are going to be in short supply, if we cant giving every part timer journeyman player a free go at the other end then we will be in very serious trouble before Suarez and Gerrard even lace up their boots
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373424#msg1373424 date=1312240344]
Mate they are pre-season warm up games.
Youre worrying too much.
[/quote]

We wandered into the start of the '09 season un-ready and ill-prepared after the same wank pre-season campaign and got fucking destroyed by Spurs, and our title aspirations were over after a few games. Ditto last season. So it does matter Oncy, it matters a lot.
 
So Downing played on the right?

Why didn't one of us predict that could happen I wonder??

Oh, that's right. I did.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46297.msg1373459#msg1373459 date=1312265682]
So Downing played on the right?

Why didn't one of us predict that could happen I wonder??

Oh, that's right. I did.
[/quote]

He played there in maybe 10 minutes of the entire game. Big wooopdy do.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=46297.msg1373432#msg1373432 date=1312247862]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46297.msg1373424#msg1373424 date=1312240344]
Mate they are pre-season warm up games.
Youre worrying too much.
[/quote]

We wandered into the start of the '09 season un-ready and ill-prepared after the same wank pre-season campaign and got fucking destroyed by Spurs, and our title aspirations were over after a few games. Ditto last season. So it does matter Oncy, it matters a lot.
[/quote]

Not sure if true, but someone mentioned in this thread (or another) that Chelsea lost 8 of 9 preseason games last year and started the season winning 9 of 10 epl games. It matters ... but it doesn't necessarily mean we can't hit the gates running.
 
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