Match thread: Mönchengladbach - Liverpool
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[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41228.msg1146428#msg1146428 date=1280677988]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
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Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
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But when the 'excuse' is not risking injuring your senior player excessively by making them play so early after their WC has finished, it's understandable & acceptable.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
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But when the 'excuse' is not risking injuring your senior player excessively by making them play so early after their WC has finished, it's understandable & acceptable.
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41228.msg1146428#msg1146428 date=1280677988]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
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Man U:
17 Jul Pre-season Celtic N 00:00 3 - 1
22 Jul Pre-season Philadelphia Union A 12:30 1 - 0
25 Jul Pre-season Kansas City Wizards A 23:00 1 - 2
29 Jul Pre-season MLS All-Stars A 01:30 5 - 2
31 Jul Pre-season C.D. Guadalajara A 03:15 2 - 3
Arsenal:
17 Jul Pre-season Friendly A Barnet 4 0
21 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SK Sturm Graz 3 0
27 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SC Neusiedl 1919 4 0
31 Jul Emirates Cup H AC Milan 1 1
Us:
21 Jul 2010 G'hopper A 0 0
24 Jul 2010 K'slautern A 0 1
29 Jul 2010 FK Rabotnicki A 2 0
1 Aug 2010 Borussia A 0 1
Yeah, Arsenal and Man U are having a terrible preseason.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
[/quote]
Man U:
17 Jul Pre-season Celtic N 00:00 3 - 1
22 Jul Pre-season Philadelphia Union A 12:30 1 - 0
25 Jul Pre-season Kansas City Wizards A 23:00 1 - 2
29 Jul Pre-season MLS All-Stars A 01:30 5 - 2
31 Jul Pre-season C.D. Guadalajara A 03:15 2 - 3
Arsenal:
17 Jul Pre-season Friendly A Barnet 4 0
21 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SK Sturm Graz 3 0
27 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SC Neusiedl 1919 4 0
31 Jul Emirates Cup H AC Milan 1 1
Us:
21 Jul 2010 G'hopper A 0 0
24 Jul 2010 K'slautern A 0 1
29 Jul 2010 FK Rabotnicki A 2 0
1 Aug 2010 Borussia A 0 1
Yeah, Arsenal and Man U are having a terrible preseason.
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146439#msg1146439 date=1280680441]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41228.msg1146428#msg1146428 date=1280677988]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
[/quote]
Man U:
17 Jul Pre-season Celtic N 00:00 3 - 1
22 Jul Pre-season Philadelphia Union A 12:30 1 - 0
25 Jul Pre-season Kansas City Wizards A 23:00 1 - 2
29 Jul Pre-season MLS All-Stars A 01:30 5 - 2
31 Jul Pre-season C.D. Guadalajara A 03:15 2 - 3
Arsenal:
17 Jul Pre-season Friendly A Barnet 4 0
21 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SK Sturm Graz 3 0
27 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SC Neusiedl 1919 4 0
31 Jul Emirates Cup H AC Milan 1 1
Us:
21 Jul 2010 G'hopper A 0 0
24 Jul 2010 K'slautern A 0 1
29 Jul 2010 FK Rabotnicki A 2 0
1 Aug 2010 Borussia A 0 1
Yeah, Arsenal and Man U are having a terrible preseason.
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modo,with all due, who gives a fuck.
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41228.msg1146428#msg1146428 date=1280677988]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
[/quote]
Man U:
17 Jul Pre-season Celtic N 00:00 3 - 1
22 Jul Pre-season Philadelphia Union A 12:30 1 - 0
25 Jul Pre-season Kansas City Wizards A 23:00 1 - 2
29 Jul Pre-season MLS All-Stars A 01:30 5 - 2
31 Jul Pre-season C.D. Guadalajara A 03:15 2 - 3
Arsenal:
17 Jul Pre-season Friendly A Barnet 4 0
21 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SK Sturm Graz 3 0
27 Jul Pre-season Friendly A SC Neusiedl 1919 4 0
31 Jul Emirates Cup H AC Milan 1 1
Us:
21 Jul 2010 G'hopper A 0 0
24 Jul 2010 K'slautern A 0 1
29 Jul 2010 FK Rabotnicki A 2 0
1 Aug 2010 Borussia A 0 1
Yeah, Arsenal and Man U are having a terrible preseason.
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modo,with all due, who gives a fuck.
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146448#msg1146448 date=1280682048]
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
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It looks worse than it is.
We'll beat Arsenal.
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
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It looks worse than it is.
We'll beat Arsenal.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41228.msg1146436#msg1146436 date=1280680148]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41228.msg1146428#msg1146428 date=1280677988]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
[/quote]
But when the 'excuse' is not risking injuring your senior player excessively by making them play so early after their WC has finished, it's understandable & acceptable.
[/quote]
i agree i wasn't talking about picking senior players. i'm talking about working on the tactics, runs movements. getting a formation sorted, organisation and defending set pieces. hodgson should have drilled all of this into the team. basically just getting the team playing cohesively and practising the things they need to do in order to win games.
instead we've just used it as a chance to improve the squads fitness. lucas may be fit, but its fuck all use because he is still playing exactly the same way and in exactly the same role that he did last year
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41228.msg1146428#msg1146428 date=1280677988]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41228.msg1146417#msg1146417 date=1280676601]
To say that Arsenal, Chelsea and Utd are scoring for fun is just wrong though. They're not enjoying the best pre seeaon either.
[/quote]
Their players already know how to play alongside each other. Pre season for them is just selling tickets and getting the fat ones in shape.
Whereas we have serious problems that needed fixing before the season. We've not fixed them, we've wasted this time and it will cost us when the season starts. It's perfectally correct to say it's only kids playing, i can't argue with that. But look at what you're saying. You've failed to achieve something that needed to be done. Just because you have a valid excuse means nothing. This isn't school work or uni exams. We had work to do, the only option was to do it. Instead, as usual, we've used some reason to excuse ourselves. The bottom line is we're just fucking ourselves over.
[/quote]
But when the 'excuse' is not risking injuring your senior player excessively by making them play so early after their WC has finished, it's understandable & acceptable.
[/quote]
i agree i wasn't talking about picking senior players. i'm talking about working on the tactics, runs movements. getting a formation sorted, organisation and defending set pieces. hodgson should have drilled all of this into the team. basically just getting the team playing cohesively and practising the things they need to do in order to win games.
instead we've just used it as a chance to improve the squads fitness. lucas may be fit, but its fuck all use because he is still playing exactly the same way and in exactly the same role that he did last year
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146448#msg1146448 date=1280682048]
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
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look on the bright side - 2 goals conceded in 4 games ... that is GOOD!
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
[/quote]
look on the bright side - 2 goals conceded in 4 games ... that is GOOD!
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41228.msg1146453#msg1146453 date=1280683353]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146448#msg1146448 date=1280682048]
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
[/quote]
look on the bright side - 2 goals conceded in 4 games ... that is GOOD!
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Modokay - 0 would be better.
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146448#msg1146448 date=1280682048]
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
[/quote]
look on the bright side - 2 goals conceded in 4 games ... that is GOOD!
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Modokay - 0 would be better.
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=41228.msg1146456#msg1146456 date=1280684177]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41228.msg1146453#msg1146453 date=1280683353]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146448#msg1146448 date=1280682048]
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
[/quote]
look on the bright side - 2 goals conceded in 4 games ... that is GOOD!
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Modokay - 0 would be better.
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Against shit teams. sure.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41228.msg1146453#msg1146453 date=1280683353]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146448#msg1146448 date=1280682048]
Hansern claimed that Arsenal and Man U weren't having a good preseason, that's why I posted their results.
But I give a fuck, because we've got two games left before the premier league start and Arsenal are way ahead of us fitness-wise.
[/quote]
look on the bright side - 2 goals conceded in 4 games ... that is GOOD!
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Modokay - 0 would be better.
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Against shit teams. sure.
I have to say I share Modokay and Hanserns concerns after watching that match. It's all very well and nice saying pre-season is about gaining fitness and giving the youngsters a run out but our next game is in two weeks and our first team - whatever it is - hasn't played together at all. We still look like we can't pass the ball to save our lives half the time and consequently there have been no goals to really speak of.
I don't think we can compare ourselves to the likes of Arsenal or United either. Our team looked like a bunch of strangers at the best of times last season and since then there has been a fair bit of upheaval.
Is it just the 2nd leg of the qualifier left before the league season starts?
I don't think we can compare ourselves to the likes of Arsenal or United either. Our team looked like a bunch of strangers at the best of times last season and since then there has been a fair bit of upheaval.
Is it just the 2nd leg of the qualifier left before the league season starts?
I would normally say pre-season is irrelevant, but we looked awful in pre-season last summer, and that carried on almost seamlessly into the season itself.
There are obvious concerns, but at the same time I don't think it's true to say (as Modokay did earlier) that United and Arsenal have played better teams than us. The MLS or the Bundesliga? Hodgson is clearly concentrating on making us disciplined and safe at the back, and I think that's reasonable. Plus most of our attacking players are still in the first weeks of training. We all know the squad is too thin, but apparently we have no money so we can't buy our way out of that trouble.
We need to get the Mascher sale through and buy ourselves a new DM, LB and striker. And we need to show the kind of passion in our first two games that we showed against United at home last season. We're not going to play Arsenal and City off the park, but if we can get 4pts from those two matches, it will be a huge achievement in the circumstances. The fear, obviously, is that we end up with 1pt or less...
There are obvious concerns, but at the same time I don't think it's true to say (as Modokay did earlier) that United and Arsenal have played better teams than us. The MLS or the Bundesliga? Hodgson is clearly concentrating on making us disciplined and safe at the back, and I think that's reasonable. Plus most of our attacking players are still in the first weeks of training. We all know the squad is too thin, but apparently we have no money so we can't buy our way out of that trouble.
We need to get the Mascher sale through and buy ourselves a new DM, LB and striker. And we need to show the kind of passion in our first two games that we showed against United at home last season. We're not going to play Arsenal and City off the park, but if we can get 4pts from those two matches, it will be a huge achievement in the circumstances. The fear, obviously, is that we end up with 1pt or less...
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41228.msg1146478#msg1146478 date=1280687243]
I would normally say pre-season is irrelevant, but we looked awful in pre-season last summer, and that carried on almost seamlessly into the season itself.
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That's my fear.
I would normally say pre-season is irrelevant, but we looked awful in pre-season last summer, and that carried on almost seamlessly into the season itself.
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That's my fear.
It doesn't always work like that though. I was really worried about the Rabotnicki match and it ended up as a cakewalk. Obviously the Robots are not in the same class as any of the PL teams we'll face, but it's still a good sign that we got the result when we needed it.
Nah, it doesn't.
More than anything I suppose I'm just trying to make the point that just because it's pre-season doesn't really mean you can dismiss all concerns with "meh, it's just pre-season!", which I'm guessing was the same point you were making also.
More than anything I suppose I'm just trying to make the point that just because it's pre-season doesn't really mean you can dismiss all concerns with "meh, it's just pre-season!", which I'm guessing was the same point you were making also.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41228.msg1146472#msg1146472 date=1280686669]
I have to say I share Modokay and Hanserns concerns after watching that match. It's all very well and nice saying pre-season is about gaining fitness and giving the youngsters a run out but our next game is in two weeks and our first team - whatever it is - hasn't played together at all. We still look like we can't pass the ball to save our lives half the time and consequently there have been no goals to really speak of.
I don't think we can compare ourselves to the likes of Arsenal or United either. Our team looked like a bunch of strangers at the best of times last season and since then there has been a fair bit of upheaval.
Is it just the 2nd leg of the qualifier left before the league season starts?
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It's just the game against Robotnics, but Roy said today that he's considering playing one more friendly before the PL starts. The thing is though, some smart knob has arranged a meaningless International friendly on the 11th of august. After a WC and 2 days before the season. I hope all our English lads drop it, but I guess that a fat chance.
I have to say I share Modokay and Hanserns concerns after watching that match. It's all very well and nice saying pre-season is about gaining fitness and giving the youngsters a run out but our next game is in two weeks and our first team - whatever it is - hasn't played together at all. We still look like we can't pass the ball to save our lives half the time and consequently there have been no goals to really speak of.
I don't think we can compare ourselves to the likes of Arsenal or United either. Our team looked like a bunch of strangers at the best of times last season and since then there has been a fair bit of upheaval.
Is it just the 2nd leg of the qualifier left before the league season starts?
[/quote]
It's just the game against Robotnics, but Roy said today that he's considering playing one more friendly before the PL starts. The thing is though, some smart knob has arranged a meaningless International friendly on the 11th of august. After a WC and 2 days before the season. I hope all our English lads drop it, but I guess that a fat chance.
Modo, if we played Austrian amateurs and Barnet we would have won aswell. Chelsea lost again today against Frankfurt, 2-1.
Utd are playing shite MLS teams, but hardly set the world on fire. We've played a Swiss premier team that had started their domestic season, and 2 good Bundesliga sides. It's quite a difference tbh.
Either way, after watching the game now I can only say that I hope thats the last we see of Insua. Slow, turns like brick house, postional sense like a blind man, and gets beat constantly by his man.
If we start the season with him as our left back, it's a crisis. Liability and not good enough.
You could see that his mind wasn't at the game at all, and he should have stayed at Melwood, or been on a plane to Italy.
Utd are playing shite MLS teams, but hardly set the world on fire. We've played a Swiss premier team that had started their domestic season, and 2 good Bundesliga sides. It's quite a difference tbh.
Either way, after watching the game now I can only say that I hope thats the last we see of Insua. Slow, turns like brick house, postional sense like a blind man, and gets beat constantly by his man.
If we start the season with him as our left back, it's a crisis. Liability and not good enough.
You could see that his mind wasn't at the game at all, and he should have stayed at Melwood, or been on a plane to Italy.
S
Squiggles
Guest
Re: Match thread: Mönchengladbach - Liverpool
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146508#msg1146508 date=1280695915]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
[/quote]quite. Do you think that we could get the FA to postpone the start of the season?
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
[/quote]quite. Do you think that we could get the FA to postpone the start of the season?
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41228.msg1146522#msg1146522 date=1280698807]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146508#msg1146508 date=1280695915]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
[/quote]quite. Do you think that we could get the FA to postpone the start of the season?
[/quote]
Ha ha..I wish. But hey I'm just a bit worried. We had a similar start last season and it just carried on. This time it's even worse because of the world cup and we've got Arsenal, Man U and Man city within the first 5 games.
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146508#msg1146508 date=1280695915]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
[/quote]quite. Do you think that we could get the FA to postpone the start of the season?
[/quote]
Ha ha..I wish. But hey I'm just a bit worried. We had a similar start last season and it just carried on. This time it's even worse because of the world cup and we've got Arsenal, Man U and Man city within the first 5 games.
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
It's pitiful
S
Squiggles
Guest
Re: Match thread: Mönchengladbach - Liverpool
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146508#msg1146508 date=1280695915]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
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You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
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You cannot properly 'gel' in pre-season because the opposition are always so shit. It would be better if we were in some pre-season tournament for half decent teams, but alas.
Are United and Chelsea and co putting out their first teams already? Are we suggesting that WC players shouldn't get an extended rest?
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=41228.msg1146508#msg1146508 date=1280695915]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41228.msg1146486#msg1146486 date=1280688640]
Pre-season means fuck all.
We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute. We're a load of unfit kids and newbies. There's no point in analysing it too much.
It's always like this after a World Cup.
[/quote]
You just pinpointed the problem, "We're not even 'Liverpool' at the minute".
Like I said we're playing Arsenal in two weeks time and our first team is still missing 3 vital players. Kuyt, Reina and Torres. Mascherano hasn't left or been replaced. The team won't have enough time to gel.
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You cannot properly 'gel' in pre-season because the opposition are always so shit. It would be better if we were in some pre-season tournament for half decent teams, but alas.
Are United and Chelsea and co putting out their first teams already? Are we suggesting that WC players shouldn't get an extended rest?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41228.msg1146738#msg1146738 date=1280736402]
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
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Once Konchesky comes everything will get better.
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
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Once Konchesky comes everything will get better.
[quote author=refugee link=topic=41228.msg1146846#msg1146846 date=1280746775]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41228.msg1146738#msg1146738 date=1280736402]
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
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Once Konchesky comes everything will get better.
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If konchesky comes I'll assume that the takeover isn't happening any time soon.
That, or Hodgson hasn't a fucking clue.
Konchesky is Julian Dicks without the finesse.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41228.msg1146738#msg1146738 date=1280736402]
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
[/quote]
Once Konchesky comes everything will get better.
[/quote]
If konchesky comes I'll assume that the takeover isn't happening any time soon.
That, or Hodgson hasn't a fucking clue.
Konchesky is Julian Dicks without the finesse.
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=41228.msg1146853#msg1146853 date=1280747374]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=41228.msg1146846#msg1146846 date=1280746775]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41228.msg1146738#msg1146738 date=1280736402]
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
[/quote]
Once Konchesky comes everything will get better.
[/quote]
If konchesky comes I'll assume that the takeover isn't happening any time soon.
That, or Hodgson hasn't a fucking clue.
Konchesky is Julian Dicks without the finesse.
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He does have a decent cross on him though, I'll give him that.
[quote author=refugee link=topic=41228.msg1146846#msg1146846 date=1280746775]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41228.msg1146738#msg1146738 date=1280736402]
The most worrying thing about the state we're in is manifested by the fact that Insua and Aurelio are still our LB options.
It's pitiful
[/quote]
Once Konchesky comes everything will get better.
[/quote]
If konchesky comes I'll assume that the takeover isn't happening any time soon.
That, or Hodgson hasn't a fucking clue.
Konchesky is Julian Dicks without the finesse.
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He does have a decent cross on him though, I'll give him that.
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