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[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41558.msg1161100#msg1161100 date=1282666761]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41558.msg1161094#msg1161094 date=1282666488]
What a twattish, clueless comment:

"Roy Hodgson has been unbelievable in the way he has dealt with this situation. The player is deeply upset that his move to Barcelona has been put in jeopardy by the price being quoted for him, and that he was in no mood to play under the circumstances. The manager has said that under those circumstances it would have been pointless picking him in any case."

What the fuck is he supposed to do?
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Is that RAWK again?
Fuck me, it gets fucking worse over there if so.
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i'm surprised they dont' agree with his decision to not play masch. After all Lucas wouldn't have played and been MOTM
 
He should have picked Mascherano and he should be picked for every game until he is sold. If he doesnt want to play, then he can answer to the fans.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41558.msg1160987#msg1160987 date=1282658080]
Depends on how one defines "positive". Do I expect us to tear up the Prem this season? No. Do I think we have a chance of at least getting back into the CL spots? Yes, I do - there's a very long way to go, and we're barely out of the starting blocks.
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^^^^^^
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41558.msg1161109#msg1161109 date=1282666998]
It's from that article above lads, the one IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts has just posted.
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score 1 for quiffing

*fist pumps*
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41558.msg1161076#msg1161076 date=1282665469]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41558.msg1160949#msg1160949 date=1282656750]
40m on Keane and Aquaflop.

Cheers Rafa.
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we never spent/lost (same thing in my book, given how quickly we sold him on) £20m on keane. i think it was more like £3-7m, depending on what the proceeds rise to.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1221975/Rafa-Benitezs-229m-spending-spree-The-76-players-signed-Liverpool-managers-reign.html

You can have a look, peter.

Painful reading though.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41558.msg1161094#msg1161094 date=1282666488]
What a twattish, clueless comment:

"Roy Hodgson has been unbelievable in the way he has dealt with this situation. The player is deeply upset that his move to Barcelona has been put in jeopardy by the price being quoted for him, and that he was in no mood to play under the circumstances. The manager has said that under those circumstances it would have been pointless picking him in any case."

What the fuck is he supposed to do?
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I actually read that as a compliment - 'unbelievable' in a good sense - but I guess it could be taken either way. Doesn't make much sense whichever way, really.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41558.msg1161140#msg1161140 date=1282668701]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=41558.msg1161076#msg1161076 date=1282665469]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41558.msg1160949#msg1160949 date=1282656750]
40m on Keane and Aquaflop.

Cheers Rafa.
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we never spent/lost (same thing in my book, given how quickly we sold him on) £20m on keane. i think it was more like £3-7m, depending on what the proceeds rise to.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1221975/Rafa-Benitezs-229m-spending-spree-The-76-players-signed-Liverpool-managers-reign.html

You can have a look, peter.

Painful reading though.
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i know everything that'll be on there already, and frankly, seeing as none of it will contradict what i stated in my post, i'm not sure why you provided the link. maybe you think i'd have to be one of those fabled RCDNWers to want to defend rafa? because i'm not.
 
By Joe Drabble Last updated: 24th August 2010
Harry reveals Diarra demands


Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp has conceded the chances of him luring Lassana Diarra to White Hart Lane are slim.

Spurs, who made William Gallas their second summer signing on Sunday, have been strongly linked with bringing another former Arsenal player back to London.

Combative Real Madrid midfielder Diarra enjoyed a two-year spell at Chelsea from 2005-2007 before making 13 appearances for Arsenal the following season.

The 25-year-old, who played under Redknapp during his brief time at Portsmouth in 2008, is thought to be deemed surplus to requirements under new Real coach Jose Mourinho.

However the Spurs boss, while reiterating his interest in Diarra, has cited wage demands as a likely stumbling block in the move.

"He's on big, big wages at Real Madrid," said Redknapp, who revealed Diarra's agent had been in contact with Spurs' chief scout.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6333538,00.html


Big Big wages............
doesn't sound very promising for us
 
Javier's new unsigned contract is at 100k a week, so we have the possibilty to offer Diarra a decent contract.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41558.msg1161215#msg1161215 date=1282674874]
Javier's new unsigned contract is at 100k a week, so we have the possibilty to offer Diarra a decent contract.
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A positive thought!
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41558.msg1161215#msg1161215 date=1282674874]
Javier's new unsigned contract is at 100k a week, so we have the possibilty to offer Diarra a decent contract.
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Diarra is such a blindingly obvious replacement (at half the fee) for Masher that it'll obviously never happen.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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Not worth it. The trolls will never allow themselves to see that he did do some good things here. To them he's just a "cunt". I'd rather they continued with their relentless rant. Shows them up for the cunts they really are.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41558.msg1161254#msg1161254 date=1282679039]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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Not worth it. The trolls will never allow themselves to see that he did do some good things here. To them he's just a "cunt". I'd rather they continued with their relentless rant. Shows them up for the cunts they really are.
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He did... but sadly it seems like ages ago now. He finished much the way Houllier did... so close to winning the League and if he had gotten his final buys correct we likely would have. We were close and he fucking bottled it.
 
Looks like Stoke have been given a dose of our medicine with Chelsea interested in their 'keeper Asmir Begovic and Tony Pulis said: "Asmir called me this morning and said he didn't want to play. (Carlo Nash played instead). He said his mind wasn't right. There is stuff going on behind the scenes. We will sit down and talk to him. I'm not happy with it. The club pay his wages and he has a responsibility to play for this football club. There is plenty of talking to do."
 
The Grauniad said:
Barcelona were tonight preparing a renewed bid for Javier Mascherano after the coach Pep Guardiola admitted that he wanted to sign a defensive midfielder. The comment comes in light of Mascherano's refusal to play for Liverpool at Manchester City .

Barcelona's initial bid of €15m (£12.3m) with €5m more in add-ons was rejected by Liverpool. The Anfield club are understood to be holding out for a fee closer to €26m. That is a valuation Barcelona are reluctant to match but they remain hopeful of concluding a deal by offering players in return, and because of the determination of Mascherano who has made his position abundantly clearto leave.

Although Guardiola refused to name the Argentinian directly, he did admit: "If a defensive midfielder arrives the needs of the team will be resolved. If one arrives I will be satisfied. I will only speak about [Mascherano] when he's here, if he comes."

Barcelona believe that is likely despite the fact that they are not in the best of financial health. The signing of David Villa for €40m was carried out by the former president Joan Laporta, amid criticism from the new president Sandro Rosell at what he described as the club's "stratospheric" debt – which he calculated at more than €400m.

Rosell's first act when he was elected in July was to seek a bank loan for €150m to cover players' salaries. He also admitted defeat in the pursuit of Arsenal's Cesc Fábregas, unable to offer a fee much in excess of €40m, and forced through the sale of Dimitro Chygrynskiy, even though Guardiola wanted to keep him.

Barcelona are prepared to offer Liverpool Alexander Hleb and Martin Cáceres in part exchange, to increase the bid beyond the current €20m. Pressure is building on the new president and sporting director from Guardiola to get the deal done.

Politically, they cannot be seen to have failed to provide reinforcements. Barcelona also believe they have a huge advantage because of Mascherano's willingness to fight for a move. Their hand is stronger, certainly, than during the attempts to sign Fábregas, when their bullish confidence, both from the former regime and the current one, turned out to be misplaced. arcelona did not count on such stubborn resistance from Arsène Wenger and could not raise sufficient funds to persuade Arsenal to sell and although Fabregas told the Arsenal manager that he wanted to leave, he was unprepared to publicly rebel.

Mascherano has asked not to play for Liverpool, while his agent has openly spoken about his desire to depart England for Spain.Some are criticising the club for letting Yaya Touré go and effectively replacing him with the same type of player for much the same price. Touré fetched E28, £24m. In total, the fee for Mascherano looks like settling at a similar level.

The situation, though, has changed: when Barcelona sold Touré, the Ivorian's agent had repeatedly spoken out in public about his client's dissatisfaction at being a substituted and contract renewal talks had also stalled. Barcelona also sold him in the hope of raising the funds for a bid for Fabregas.

Having failed to secure the Arsenal captain they now have a vacant slot in central midfield that Guardiola believes has to be filled.

Barcelona may have one problem, though, with sources suggesting that a late bid from Internazionale should not be ruled out.
 
Being bullied by the big boys into selling your better players for less than they are worth.

Welcome to the also-rans.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41558.msg1161254#msg1161254 date=1282679039]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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Not worth it. The trolls will never allow themselves to see that he did do some good things here. To them he's just a "cunt". I'd rather they continued with their relentless rant. Shows them up for the cunts they really are.
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Rafa isn't, and will never be a cunt. However he did things at LFC which have jeopardised the chances of us getting 4th or 1st or whatever, and these mistakes are the reason he isn't here. Simples.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=41558.msg1161400#msg1161400 date=1282695699]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41558.msg1161254#msg1161254 date=1282679039]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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Not worth it. The trolls will never allow themselves to see that he did do some good things here. To them he's just a "cunt". I'd rather they continued with their relentless rant. Shows them up for the cunts they really are.
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Rafa isn't, and will never be a cunt. However he did things at LFC which have jeopardised the chances of us getting 4th or 1st or whatever, and these mistakes are the reason he isn't here. Simples.
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He also came closer to winning the league than anyone in the last twenty years.
 
That too. Its quite easy to denigrate someones achievements when they're the thing at the forefront of your memory.
 
I hope we refuse to budge from our valuation. Sure we may lose 26m euro now but if we cave we'll stand to lose more in the long term with more clubs coming in to do the same. C'mon Roy, do the right thing.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=41558.msg1161400#msg1161400 date=1282695699]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41558.msg1161254#msg1161254 date=1282679039]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
[/quote]

Not worth it. The trolls will never allow themselves to see that he did do some good things here. To them he's just a "cunt". I'd rather they continued with their relentless rant. Shows them up for the cunts they really are.
[/quote]

Rafa isn't, and will never be a cunt. However he did things at LFC which have jeopardised the chances of us getting 4th or 1st or whatever, and these mistakes are the reason he isn't here. Simples.
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So we agree then?
 
[quote author=furyoo link=topic=41558.msg1161413#msg1161413 date=1282701552]
I hope we refuse to budge from our valuation. Sure we may lose 26m euro now but if we cave we'll stand to lose more in the long term with more clubs coming in to do the same. C'mon Roy, do the right thing.
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I don't think Roy will make that decision.
 
While I think JM is a class player, to refuse to play for us is like spitting in our faces, and on the club...!!!

Rafa and LFC saved him and made him what he is today...
The fans of LFC have stood behind him and helped him to grow...

Fuck off JM and fuck off quick, you ungrateful bastard!!!!!! >🙁
 
We're holding out for 28 mill euros. Same as City paid for Yaya. Thats the story from Liverpool.no this morning.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41558.msg1161490#msg1161490 date=1282722007]
We're holding out for 28 mill euros. Same as City paid for Yaya. Thats the story from Liverpool.no this morning.
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That's fair enough. The logic being that if Barca were prepared to let Toure go for that price, with a view to buying someone better, surely that means they should pay at least the same for Masher??

No?

ok.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41558.msg1161254#msg1161254 date=1282679039]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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Not worth it. The trolls will never allow themselves to see that he did do some good things here. To them he's just a "cunt". I'd rather they continued with their relentless rant. Shows them up for the cunts they really are.
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Thats how i feel about it now mate.
 
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