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There is just no way we should accept less than we paid for a player who we signed languishing in West Hams reserves who was on the fringes of international recognition who is NOW his countries captain and widely regarded as the best in the world in his position.

Its fucking Owen all over again.

They can ante-up or go and fuck themselves.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=41558.msg1160919#msg1160919 date=1282655140]
I mean we need a DM after we sell Mascherano, I didn't mean Hleb was that DM. I like that Diarra link.


Lol @ Oncy, they'd never let Busquets go, he's one of their golden boys, he belongs at Barca.
[/quote]Mascherano is one of our Golden boys. Like i said Ante-up or on your fucking bicicleta.
 
He wasn't on the fringes internationally, and was already regarded as one of the best DMs around. How long things would have stayed that way if Rafa hadn't moved in for him is definitely open to doubt though.

Strongly agree otherwise.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=41558.msg1160919#msg1160919 date=1282655140]
I mean we need a DM after we sell Mascherano, I didn't mean Hleb was that DM. I like that Diarra link.


Lol @ Oncy, they'd never let Busquets go, he's one of their golden boys, he belongs at Barca.
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Norwegian fan site apparently saying that Diarra will be Mashers replacement. Hansern, hear anything mate?
I could live with that if there is money left over to buy a left back and a striker.
 
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=41558.msg1160919#msg1160919 date=1282655140]
I mean we need a DM after we sell Mascherano, I didn't mean Hleb was that DM. I like that Diarra link.


Lol @ Oncy, they'd never let Busquets go, he's one of their golden boys, he belongs at Barca.
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Norwegian fan site apparently saying that Diarra will be Mashers replacement. Hansern, hear anything mate?
I could live with that if there is money left over to buy a left back and a striker.
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Same here - or at least to pay their wages, if we manage to sign decent freebies.
 
How fucking shit must Aquilani have been in training that he was let go on loan when it was known to the whole fucking world knew Mascherano was off. Jesus, any feelings of positivity are completely fucking washed away today.

It's going to be a long, depressing season. Fuck this shit.
 
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41558.msg1160936#msg1160936 date=1282655937]
How fucking shit must Aquilani have been in training that he was let go on loan when it was known to the whole fucking world knew Mascherano was off. Jesus, any feelings of positivity are completely fucking washed away today.

It's going to be a long, depressing season. Fuck this shit.
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[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41558.msg1160936#msg1160936 date=1282655937]
How fucking shit must Aquilani have been in training that he was let go on loan when it was known to the whole fucking world knew Mascherano was off. Jesus, any feelings of positivity are completely fucking washed away today.

It's going to be a long, depressing season. Fuck this shit.
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[quote author=Paddy link=topic=41558.msg1160943#msg1160943 date=1282656360]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41558.msg1160936#msg1160936 date=1282655937]
How fucking shit must Aquilani have been in training that he was let go on loan when it was known to the whole fucking world knew Mascherano was off. Jesus, any feelings of positivity are completely fucking washed away today.

It's going to be a long, depressing season. Fuck this shit.
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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41558.msg1160949#msg1160949 date=1282656750]
40m on Keane and Aquaflop.

Cheers Rafa.
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6m for Lucas is even worse.
 
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41558.msg1160894#msg1160894 date=1282654288]
According to Spanish media there is only 3 mill euros that seperates their offer from what we want now. This will probably be sorted soon. We're holding out for 21 mill £
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That is £18m at current rates.

Not nearly enough in my book unless there is a squad player included in the deal
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apparently so. Hleb is included in the deal.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=41558.msg1160965#msg1160965 date=1282657421]
It took 2 premier league games for all the positivity to be sucked out of 6cm. yikes.
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Was anyone *genuinely* positive?
 
No, but everyone has that we'll do ok moment before the season starts even if its minimal.

Other than Dreambeliever, i don't see any positivity.
 
Depends on how one defines "positive". Do I expect us to tear up the Prem this season? No. Do I think we have a chance of at least getting back into the CL spots? Yes, I do - there's a very long way to go, and we're barely out of the starting blocks.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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Do you really want to play that game, Asbo?
 
Diarra would be as close as we'd get to a direct replacement for Mascher. He's not quite as good, but he's not that far away. We'd still need a creative CM, though, not to mention a striker and a LB. We might *have* to sell Kuyt at this rate.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41558.msg1160949#msg1160949 date=1282656750]
40m on Keane and Aquaflop.

Cheers Rafa.
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we never spent/lost (same thing in my book, given how quickly we sold him on) £20m on keane. i think it was more like £3-7m, depending on what the proceeds rise to.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=41558.msg1160959#msg1160959 date=1282657333]
10 Million on Alonso and 6 Million on Pepe, cheers Rafa.
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That is very thin ice chief. Careful now.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41558.msg1160966#msg1160966 date=1282657462]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=41558.msg1160965#msg1160965 date=1282657421]
It took 2 premier league games for all the positivity to be sucked out of 6cm. yikes.
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Was anyone *genuinely* positive?
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Yes. I was. More fool me.
 
Mascherano Barca deal heading towards conclusion

The Catalan giants have now gone public on their interest, and the midfielder has openly expressed his desire to leave Anfield.

It has been reported that an initial bid of £12 million, plus Alexander Hleb, was dismissed out of hand by Liverpool, but Soccernet understands that the first bid was closer to £18 million - though that figure was still some way off Liverpool's £25 million valuation.

A source close to the deal told Soccernet: "Barcelona have offered 22 million euros, and Liverpool have put a price on the player of 30million euros. I believe the magic number is 28 million euros.

"Liverpool surely cannot say no to that figure, and now it's a question of how close to that mark Barcelona are prepared to move, as they know they have to increase their offer."

Through third parties, it is being suggested that Mascherano has already accepted a huge pay rise to move to the Nou Camp, with his £30,000-a-week wages at Anfield leaping to £85,000 a week in Spain.

But it is not simply a question of Mascherano's personal finances, as personal reasons drive his desire to leave England. Liverpool, meanwhile, want to fully realise the economic benefits of the Argentina captain moving on.

"It is now well established that the club are willing to sell him, and actually want to sell him, and the player wants to go because of personal reasons," Soccernet's source explains.

"Javier loves the club, and appreciates that Liverpool bought him for £20 million when he was sitting on the bench at West Ham. He has no problems with the club and in fact, contrary to the impression being given, he has no problem with the new manager. "He likes Hodgson. Hodgson would like the player to stay as he doesn't have a replacement, but the only solution is for the Barcelona deal to go through as quickly as possible. There is no knowing if Javier will play if asked to do so at the weekend.

"Roy Hodgson has been unbelievable in the way he has dealt with this situation. The player is deeply upset that his move to Barcelona has been put in jeopardy by the price being quoted for him, and that he was in no mood to play under the circumstances. The manager has said that under those circumstances it would have been pointless picking him in any case.

"Everyone accepts that it is not the way to go about it, refusing to play, but Javier is adamant he doesn't want to play again for Liverpool and wants to go to Barcelona because of his family."

Mascherano reported for training on Tuesday morning, after Hodgson admitted he had no idea of the player's whereabouts, ahead of Liverpool's 3-0 defeat to Manchester City at Eastlands.
 
£5M for 6 months is bad business, main issue was he didnt replace Keane.
Pointless to talk about Rafa's flops now, lets give Roy some time to work with his players.
Some of his important players didnt even have 90 minutes under their belf before 1st league match.

Back to Mascher topic, I like what I heard from Roy about it.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41558.msg1161056#msg1161056 date=1282661423]
Diarra would be as close as we'd get to a direct replacement for Mascher. He's not quite as good, but he's not that far away. We'd still need a creative CM, though, not to mention a striker and a LB. We might *have* to sell Kuyt at this rate.
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Diarra is a good enough player to supply some of that creativity himself. If we got him I'd prioritise those other positions over another CM. Ideally I'd prefer to hang on to Deadly as a squaddie, but if his sale is what it takes to fill those gaps I'd roll with it.
 
What a twattish, clueless comment:

"Roy Hodgson has been unbelievable in the way he has dealt with this situation. The player is deeply upset that his move to Barcelona has been put in jeopardy by the price being quoted for him, and that he was in no mood to play under the circumstances. The manager has said that under those circumstances it would have been pointless picking him in any case."

What the fuck is he supposed to do?
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41558.msg1161094#msg1161094 date=1282666488]
What a twattish, clueless comment:

"Roy Hodgson has been unbelievable in the way he has dealt with this situation. The player is deeply upset that his move to Barcelona has been put in jeopardy by the price being quoted for him, and that he was in no mood to play under the circumstances. The manager has said that under those circumstances it would have been pointless picking him in any case."

What the fuck is he supposed to do?
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who said that? (pardon the quiffing if the answer is obvious)


I do hope we're in for Lass. While never going to pull up trees, he has premier league experience, is strong, and is full of running
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41558.msg1161094#msg1161094 date=1282666488]
What a twattish, clueless comment:

"Roy Hodgson has been unbelievable in the way he has dealt with this situation. The player is deeply upset that his move to Barcelona has been put in jeopardy by the price being quoted for him, and that he was in no mood to play under the circumstances. The manager has said that under those circumstances it would have been pointless picking him in any case."

What the fuck is he supposed to do?
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Is that RAWK again?
Fuck me, it gets fucking worse over there if so.
 
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