Man Utd... What is it about them that make us hate them so much ?

[Halmeister]

What winds me up most about them is their infatuation with us. Having watched the Champions League semi tonight I had to bump this thread.

I've never really hated Man Utd fans, nor do I know any (apart from a cousin in Ireland). But what really fucking grates on me is their need to sing anti-Liverpool and Merseyside songs in EVERY game. Coming towards full time all I could hear was "Are you watching Merseyside?" Even their imaginative "Going to Rome, and that's a fact" is aired at our manager and club.

I switched on Setanta News before and they had a room full of Utd fans and was asking about their thoughts after the match. Now you'd be right in thinking any Man Utd fan would be chuffed to bits with a place in the Champions League final for the second year in a row, potentially being the first team to retain the most lucrative prize in the business in the modern era and another domestic title in sight. All of this would make you proud of your side and you'd be screaming from the rooftops that you're a Man Utd fan. So imagine my bemusement when the first greasy fucker they interview mentions Liverpool within miliseconds of being questioned. "It's a great night... Liverpool won't be happy." Why the fuck are you mentioning us? You're the most successful team in England of recent times, why are you calling out us?

Then they interview a second chump. While he's describing the waiters goals or something the room erupts into a chorus of "are you watching Merseyside?" to which this semi-brained cretin struggles to sing along.

If they (their fans mostly) showed any sort of grace and dignity instead of trying to rub their success in our noses, then it would be awfully difficult not to be envious and even admire them. They have a good number of professionals who command respect (the likes of Giggs, Scholes etc) and thats the reason I was one of the few who wanted them to win the CL last year. But as it stands it's rather laughable that they have surpassed us, have amassed a great team and manager of their own, and yet sing about us at every opportunity. Unless we sang constantly about them throughout the 70s and 80s (we may have, this is me genuinely wondering) I don't see why they need to sing about us anymore. If I was a Man Utd fan it would sicken me that our fans sing so much about a rival club. I would be singing about our success, and our success alone. Not another club who we have supposedly overtaken.

I don't hate them. I'm not familiar with enough of the gloryhunting, bandwagoning cunts to develop contempt for them, but this is what would get me well on my way. Looking at the shower of shite that support that club, and other clubs, like Chelsea and now even Arsenal (what the fuck was up with the fake flags and leaving the ground after 50 minutes?) it makes me so proud and happy to be a Liverpool fan. And no matter how long we went without trophies I would never change this stance. We have the best fans in the world.

 

[DHSC]

Fuck United.

 

[Y1]

Sadly, the bragging rights are theirs, for now.

 

[Molbystwin]

I know a number of Liverpool fans and indeed United fans who have an almost taboo respect for both clubs... Its weird but its true. Very very occasionally you will hear a United fan or a Liverpool acknowledge that both clubs are northern institutions against the south for example.

The rivalry is fine and i do wish united ill on the pitch but i dont "hate" in a real sense, There have been some fine gestures made by United fans towards us over Hillsborough for example....

The vaingloriousness and pomp of them sickens me and "spiritually" they are very different to our own club, but deep down it's just entertainment. I never ever want them to win and i dislike so much about them but in truth, having actively genuinely felt the emotion of hate in my life i dont hate United.

 

[Portly]

Supposing the final is Barcelona v United, I will just have to support Barcelona, but I will feel a bit unpatriotic doing so.

I do have a Barcelona scarf which I can wear for the occasion. 🙂

 

[Jack D Rips]

[quote author=Portly link=topic=33203.msg859837#msg859837 date=1241601338]
Supposing the final is Barcelona v United, I will just have to support Barcelona, but I will feel a bit unpatriotic doing so.

I do have a Barcelona scarf which I can wear for the occasion. 🙂
[/quote]

Thank fuck, being from Ireland, I wont feel one bit unpatriotic.

 

[Squiggles]

Because they've dominated English football ever since I was a kid.

And that they're fans are, for the most part, gigantic bellends.

 

[foureyes]

[quote author=Y1 link=topic=33203.msg859756#msg859756 date=1241587327]
Sadly, the bragging rights are theirs, for now.
[/quote]

Precisely. As painful as it is at the moment, our time will come, and soon.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

All of the above. Particulaly VQs' and Halmeisters' posts.

 

[Spionkop69]

[quote author=Portly link=topic=33203.msg859837#msg859837 date=1241601338]
Supposing the final is Barcelona v United, I will just have to support Barcelona, but I will feel a bit unpatriotic doing so.

I do have a Barcelona scarf which I can wear for the occasion. 🙂
[/quote]

I had no compunction in wanting the Germans to win in 99 and should the Catalans get through, then my Barca scarf will be given an airing. No question.

Its not about country loyalties when it comes to club football and your nearest rivals.

 

[Avmenon]

Fuck United.

 

[Judge Jules]

...is what they're to be called from next season, under a deal with new sponsors FCUK.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=33203.msg860093#msg860093 date=1241617737]
Fuck United.
[/quote]
x2

 

[gkmacca]

]

Okay, I know we've got some important club matches coming up, but first I want to look ahead to the next lot of internationals, just in case Fabio and all of the others have any ideas about calling anyone up.

So here's the news on our internationals, and, believe me, I find all of this as freakish as you lot will no doubt do: right, Wayne Rooney, unfortunately, has picked up the menopause - we're as baffled as you are about this, but apparently he caught it off some mature lady in Chester called Eileen McMuff. He's been given some cream but he's still complaining about hot flushes, dizzyness, ear ringing, all sorts, so I'm afraid, although he might JUST struggle through until the end of the season, he won't be joining the England lads in the near future. Neither will Rio Ferdinand, I'm afraid, who - I'm not making this up - has caught a labial infection on his mouth. Apparently, when he was four years old, he had an accident - we've had him checked out by our doctors to confirm this, and studied his medical records - and his mouth had to be replaced by a lady's labia after another kid smashed his face in. So he's out for, er, a week and a half just before whenever the next call-up is. Berbatov, he's been diagnosed with narcolepsy, so he's out, too, as is Ronaldo, who pulled a disc in his back trying to kiss himself a couple of days ago. Tevez had bitten another dog, so that's him done for a week or so until the shots kick in - Tevez isn't feeling too well either, but he'll be back in training next week - and Michael Carrick was injured when I fell on him this morning. Ben Foster may or may not be growing backwards - one of our doctors saw this Tom Hanks movie at the weekend and told me he'd like to keep Ben at our training ground for a month or so just to make sure he doesn't go the same way, because he looks a wee bit like the Hanks lad. Very similar hair. On a positive note, John O'Shea is probably okay for a fifteen minute run-out in September - and we'll be timing it - and Ji Sun Park can play for as long as they like, if not longer.

As for the title run-in, well, we're okay. I have no interest in getting into any mind games with that cheating, disrespectful, graceless Spanish bastard down the road. Crikey! No way, Jose! Nah, I won't stoop to that filthy wee bastard's level. We'll just carry on doing what we're doing, hoping no referee proves himself to be utterly corrupt by awarding any decision against us.

Champions League? I will be giving Mr Hiddink a bottle of vintage red wine - that's a technical term I learned since I became a Knight of the realm. Oh aye. I go to Berry Bros & Rudd now in St James's and say, 'Hullo, I'm Sir Alex Ferguson, the well-known socialist firebrand, and I would like a bottle of "vintage red wine,"' and they'll nod respectfully and bring me something special, like a dusty Sainsbury's Cotes du Rhone. Oh aye, I'm the special one, but I don't like to brag. Anyway, I have training sessions to do, people to ban.

That's you up to date. Bye!

 

[manwithnoname]

City full of cunts, ground full of cunts, team full of cunts, manager is a cunt.

I don't like Mancs, I was brought up to dislike Mancs, I hate the accent, I hate how they aped everything good about Liverpool and claimed it as their own

Just a total bunch of cunts

PS There is also some historical explanation about the antipathy between scousers and Mancs, but I can't remember what it is (slaving? Docks? Strikes?) And I don't much care

 

[gkmacca]

Another thing: after all that success, after all those experiences, the best song they can come up with is always 'This old man...' clumsily re-written over and over again. How utterly shameful is that?

 

[Portly]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33203.msg860177#msg860177 date=1241628143]
PS There is also some historical explanation about the antipathy between scousers and Mancs, but I can't remember what it is (slaving? Docks? Strikes?) And I don't much care
[/quote]

In Victorian times, the Mancs resented the fact that their supplies of cotton had to come through the Port of Liverpool, and the cotton merchants had to pay Liverpool companies to unload the raw cotton from the ships. They also resented the fact that Liverpudlians had more class than them - the saying was "Manchester men and Liverpool gentlemen."

Their resentment prompted the digging of the Manchester Ship Canal which runs from Eastham on the Mersey to Salford Quays. By means of the Ship Canal they made Manchester into a rival port to Liverpool, which it remained until around 1980 when merchant ships became too large to use it all the way to Manchester. However, the Mersey end of the Canal is still quite busy with vessels to Easham, Ellesmere Port and Stanlow Refinery.

Even when I worked for Mersey Docks in the 1980's/1990's, when I had to speak to shipping people in Manchester they were a bit "edgy" and had an attitude. Nowadays both Mersey Docks and Manchester Ship Canal belong to Peel Ports Limited.

Mersey Ferries do a ferry trip from Liverpool/Woodside up the Ship Canal to Salford Quays which I can recommend. It takes about 5 hours and costs £35. There is a bus at Salford Quays that takes you back to God's Own Country.

http://www.merseyferries.co.uk/manchester-scc/index.aspx

 

[Judge Jules]

I guess any trip to Salford is worth it for the enjoyment of leaving the place when it's over. 😉

 

[Portly]

There is an option whereby you get 3 hours in Salford before getting the bus home, but I passed on that one!

When Mersey Docks was taken over by Peel in 2005, I was always apprehensive that I would have to go to their head office, which is in one of the domes of their Trafford Centre, but I was delighted tobe able to retire without ever having to go to the realm of Sauron. 🙂

 

[moron]

Well by the end of this season they will most likely be one european cup behind our total, and equal on league titles. Bottom line is that they are our closest rivals. Thats why we fucking hate them so much, but of course to the backdrop of football there is the rivalry between the the two cities in which the clubs are based.

 

[Shadey]

The sooner the faggot fergie retires the better, he's a greedy fat manc kunt..

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33203.msg860177#msg860177 date=1241628143]
City full of cunts, ground full of cunts, team full of cunts, manager is a cunt.

I don't like Mancs, I was brought up to dislike Mancs, I hate the accent, I hate how they aped everything good about Liverpool and claimed it as their own

Just a total bunch of cunts

PS There is also some historical explanation about the antipathy between scousers and Mancs, but I can't remember what it is (slaving? Docks? Strikes?) And I don't much care
[/quote]

I told you earlier

edit . Oops. Portly has done it better

regards

 

[gkmacca]

Just don't get me started on Preston. Just don't! >🙁

 

[Vlads Quiff]

[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33203.msg860597#msg860597 date=1241649164]
Just don't get me started on Preston. Just don't! >🙁
[/quote]

Oh go on

regards

 

[gkmacca]

Gahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was my fecking summer holiday. PRESTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've said too much.

 

[Portly]

It would be interesting to know why gkmacca hates Preston.

I went to Deepdale not long ago to have a look at the National Football Museum. I even had a PNE pizza in the cafeteria which is run by Heathcotes. Little did I realise that I should be feeling waves of hatred. 😱

 

[Ryan]

Australians (predominatly the Wogs I must admit) refer to them as solely "Manchester'. It's teeth-grindlingly irritating.

 

[Bologna]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33203.msg860674#msg860674 date=1241677770]
Australians (predominatly the Wogs I must admit) refer to them as solely "Manchester'. It's teeth-grindlingly irritating.
[/quote]
Italians do the same.

It's no more irritating than English-speaking people referring to Internazionale as Inter Milan, rather than just Inter as it should be.

Inter and Milan are 2 different teams.

 

[Buddha]

[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33203.msg860173#msg860173 date=1241627695]
]

Okay, I know we've got some important club matches coming up, but first I want to look ahead to the next lot of internationals, just in case Fabio and all of the others have any ideas about calling anyone up.

So here's the news on our internationals, and, believe me, I find all of this as freakish as you lot will no doubt do: right, Wayne Rooney, unfortunately, has picked up the menopause - we're as baffled as you are about this, but apparently he caught it off some mature lady in Chester called Eileen McMuff. He's been given some cream but he's still complaining about hot flushes, dizzyness, ear ringing, all sorts, so I'm afraid, although he might JUST struggle through until the end of the season, he won't be joining the England lads in the near future. Neither will Rio Ferdinand, I'm afraid, who - I'm not making this up - has caught a labial infection on his mouth. Apparently, when he was four years old, he had an accident - we've had him checked out by our doctors to confirm this, and studied his medical records - and his mouth had to be replaced by a lady's labia after another kid smashed his face in. So he's out for, er, a week and a half just before whenever the next call-up is. Berbatov, he's been diagnosed with narcolepsy, so he's out, too, as is Ronaldo, who pulled a disc in his back trying to kiss himself a couple of days ago. Tevez had bitten another dog, so that's him done for a week or so until the shots kick in - Tevez isn't feeling too well either, but he'll be back in training next week - and Michael Carrick was injured when I fell on him this morning. Ben Foster may or may not be growing backwards - one of our doctors saw this Tom Hanks movie at the weekend and told me he'd like to keep Ben at our training ground for a month or so just to make sure he doesn't go the same way, because he looks a wee bit like the Hanks lad. Very similar hair. On a positive note, John O'Shea is probably okay for a fifteen minute run-out in September - and we'll be timing it - and Ji S** Park can play for as long as they like, if not longer.

As for the title run-in, well, we're okay. I have no interest in getting into any mind games with that cheating, disrespectful, graceless Spanish bastard down the road. Crikey! No way, Jose! Nah, I won't stoop to that filthy wee bastard's level. We'll just carry on doing what we're doing, hoping no referee proves himself to be utterly corrupt by awarding any decision against us.

Champions League? I will be giving Mr Hiddink a bottle of vintage red wine - that's a technical term I learned since I became a Knight of the realm. Oh aye. I go to Berry Bros & Rudd now in St James's and say, 'Hullo, I'm Sir Alex Ferguson, the well-known socialist firebrand, and I would like a bottle of "vintage red wine,"' and they'll nod respectfully and bring me something special, like a dusty Sainsbury's Cotes du Rhone. Oh aye, I'm the special one, but I don't like to brag. Anyway, I have training sessions to do, people to ban.

That's you up to date. Bye!
[/quote]

Brilliant!

 

[Asbo]

Things like this:

Darren Fletcher could still play in the Champions League final.

The Manchester United midfielder was sent off in their semi-final second leg for a foul on Cesc Fabregas, thus incurring an automatic ban for the final against Barcelona in Rome.

UEFA rules state a player or club can only appeal against such a decision on the grounds of mistaken identity, but there may be some hope for Fletcher and United.

The S*n quotes UEFA general secretary David Taylor as saying:

"I've spoken with Alex Ferguson personally on this - as fate would have it we shared a car after the match. We had an interesting discussion.

"He was very fair about the referee but equally was very disappointed for Darren, as are we all.

"Strictly speaking there is no appeal process but representation can be made.

"If the club want to write to us with information - such as video evidence - explaining why they think this is a harsh punishment then they can do that.

"The likelihood is we'd refer it to our disciplinary body. They would then look to see if there were any special circumstances to justify any departure from established procedures."